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On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 10:20:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/17/18 7:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:52:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 5:07 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:43:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 4:24 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:01:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Apparently Comcast here had a promotion for providing a higher speed package. I wasn't aware of it because I have my Comcast bill paid automatically so I don't pay too much attention to their email announcements. My latest bill went up by $13 a month for the WiFi Internet. Didn't know you had to "opt out" of the speed upgrade. But, I think I'll keep it. My original service was the basic 25Mbs service which worked fine but I noticed a couple of weeks ago when I was comparing Comcast to the AT&T service that Comcast was much faster. So, I just did a speed test from my computer. Over 100Mbps download and 20Mbs upload. Worth an extra $13/mo I think. Only if you can actually exploit it to your advantage. Otherwise it is like owning a Lamborghini. You know it will do 180 but the speed limit is 55 or less everywhere you drive. It may make you feel better but you paid a lot for performance you will never use. I think the faster speed is primarily for having more devices on the system at the same time without it bogging down but I can see quite a difference with only 3 devices on it. My computer is connected via Ethernet cable to the modem so it's only two cell phones on the WiFi. It's definitely faster browsing or looking up stuff via Google though. No delay at all opening a website. It just snaps. Mikey likes it. Like golf clubs, fishing lures and marital aids, if you think it works, it works ;-) The biggest complaint with Comcast here is reliability. Zero bps is still zero, no matter how fast they say it is when it is working. My board president called me yesterday to get an Email out to the board because Comcast was down. I asked her who did she think would get it? It turned out the DSL and 4G (phone) people. As previously mentioned we don't seem to have your Comcast problem up here. Even in the last two high wind snowstorms and power outages, the Comcast service was only out very briefly and I was able to watch TV powering it and the cable box with the generator. Maybe cables like cold, windy snowstorms instead of warm, 80 degree sunshine. :-) Our problem is Comcast refuses to upgrade the hardware. I am not sure if they are waiting for some new technology (all fiber or something) or they just know they have no real competition so screw you. As for speed, I don't have to "think" it's faster. I did several speed tests using different test providers. It *is* faster now, with the average download speed between 92 and 110 Mbps. It's noticeable on the computer that I use 90 percent of the time to connect to the Internet. I have no doubt it is faster, I just wonder how that really helps unless you have a dozen people steaming movies at the same time. I can support 2 movie streams and browse at 10 meg. My net response doesn't really change in any noticeable way whether I have those streams going or not and it is not unlike my FIL's Comcast connection. For some reason the net seldom ever "snaps" here whether you are on Comcast or DSL. I was actually surprised because he brags about what his speed is supposed to be and he has a machine on W/10. (so Harry can't blame the CP/M machine I am supposed to be running) We must have some kind of choke point upstream somewhere. I know there is a speed bump at Giganews because a big download from them goes about the same speed whether I have one going or 3. If I am downloading music I will start 3 instances of Agent and get one going on each. Per song, it stays the same but I am getting 3 at a time. You upgraded to CP/M? Congrats! There are "choke points" everywhere along the line on cable because cab;e internet is shared within a neighborhood. All ISPs use shared bandwidth, even fiber. That is one advantage of DSL. You own that whole channel, all the way back to the fiber backbone so you usually get all you pay for, no matter how badly your neighbors are pounding the connection. Cable shares that channel with everyone on your node. (granted a much faster channel) Comcast is still running on copper here and once I get to the distribution box at the end of the street my DSL is fiber. It is all underground. Comcast is up on the pole suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous weather. Both still share that problem that they need to power the distribution boxes When I had DSL, seemed as if was dead in the evenings. Figured more than me were on the channel. |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 12:24:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/18/18 11:49 AM, wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 10:20:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/17/18 7:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:52:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 5:07 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:43:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 4:24 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:01:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Apparently Comcast here had a promotion for providing a higher speed package. I wasn't aware of it because I have my Comcast bill paid automatically so I don't pay too much attention to their email announcements. My latest bill went up by $13 a month for the WiFi Internet. Didn't know you had to "opt out" of the speed upgrade. But, I think I'll keep it. My original service was the basic 25Mbs service which worked fine but I noticed a couple of weeks ago when I was comparing Comcast to the AT&T service that Comcast was much faster. So, I just did a speed test from my computer. Over 100Mbps download and 20Mbs upload. Worth an extra $13/mo I think. Only if you can actually exploit it to your advantage. Otherwise it is like owning a Lamborghini. You know it will do 180 but the speed limit is 55 or less everywhere you drive. It may make you feel better but you paid a lot for performance you will never use. I think the faster speed is primarily for having more devices on the system at the same time without it bogging down but I can see quite a difference with only 3 devices on it. My computer is connected via Ethernet cable to the modem so it's only two cell phones on the WiFi. It's definitely faster browsing or looking up stuff via Google though. No delay at all opening a website. It just snaps. Mikey likes it. Like golf clubs, fishing lures and marital aids, if you think it works, it works ;-) The biggest complaint with Comcast here is reliability. Zero bps is still zero, no matter how fast they say it is when it is working. My board president called me yesterday to get an Email out to the board because Comcast was down. I asked her who did she think would get it? It turned out the DSL and 4G (phone) people. As previously mentioned we don't seem to have your Comcast problem up here. Even in the last two high wind snowstorms and power outages, the Comcast service was only out very briefly and I was able to watch TV powering it and the cable box with the generator. Maybe cables like cold, windy snowstorms instead of warm, 80 degree sunshine. :-) Our problem is Comcast refuses to upgrade the hardware. I am not sure if they are waiting for some new technology (all fiber or something) or they just know they have no real competition so screw you. As for speed, I don't have to "think" it's faster. I did several speed tests using different test providers. It *is* faster now, with the average download speed between 92 and 110 Mbps. It's noticeable on the computer that I use 90 percent of the time to connect to the Internet. I have no doubt it is faster, I just wonder how that really helps unless you have a dozen people steaming movies at the same time. I can support 2 movie streams and browse at 10 meg. My net response doesn't really change in any noticeable way whether I have those streams going or not and it is not unlike my FIL's Comcast connection. For some reason the net seldom ever "snaps" here whether you are on Comcast or DSL. I was actually surprised because he brags about what his speed is supposed to be and he has a machine on W/10. (so Harry can't blame the CP/M machine I am supposed to be running) We must have some kind of choke point upstream somewhere. I know there is a speed bump at Giganews because a big download from them goes about the same speed whether I have one going or 3. If I am downloading music I will start 3 instances of Agent and get one going on each. Per song, it stays the same but I am getting 3 at a time. You upgraded to CP/M? Congrats! There are "choke points" everywhere along the line on cable because cab;e internet is shared within a neighborhood. All ISPs use shared bandwidth, even fiber. That is one advantage of DSL. You own that whole channel, all the way back to the fiber backbone so you usually get all you pay for, no matter how badly your neighbors are pounding the connection. Cable shares that channel with everyone on your node. (granted a much faster channel) Comcast is still running on copper here and once I get to the distribution box at the end of the street my DSL is fiber. It is all underground. Comcast is up on the pole suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous weather. Both still share that problem that they need to power the distribution boxes We have occasional Comcast outages. Nothing significant. As I said, Comcast here is running on a 35-40 year old infrastructure with minimal upgrades. OTOH Sprint rebuilt the phone system from the ground up about 20 years ago with fiber backbones, buried service and fresh "last mile" flooded copper. I found out I can actually up my bit rate by using more pairs (there are 3 pairs in the cable going to the tombstone in the yard) and paying more but I have not felt the need. Both Comcast and ATT have upgraded their service here. But our cable was some of the original cable in Northern California. |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 10:20:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/17/18 7:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:52:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 5:07 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:43:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 4:24 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:01:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Apparently Comcast here had a promotion for providing a higher speed package. I wasn't aware of it because I have my Comcast bill paid automatically so I don't pay too much attention to their email announcements. My latest bill went up by $13 a month for the WiFi Internet. Didn't know you had to "opt out" of the speed upgrade. But, I think I'll keep it. My original service was the basic 25Mbs service which worked fine but I noticed a couple of weeks ago when I was comparing Comcast to the AT&T service that Comcast was much faster. So, I just did a speed test from my computer. Over 100Mbps download and 20Mbs upload. Worth an extra $13/mo I think. Only if you can actually exploit it to your advantage. Otherwise it is like owning a Lamborghini. You know it will do 180 but the speed limit is 55 or less everywhere you drive. It may make you feel better but you paid a lot for performance you will never use. I think the faster speed is primarily for having more devices on the system at the same time without it bogging down but I can see quite a difference with only 3 devices on it. My computer is connected via Ethernet cable to the modem so it's only two cell phones on the WiFi. It's definitely faster browsing or looking up stuff via Google though. No delay at all opening a website. It just snaps. Mikey likes it. Like golf clubs, fishing lures and marital aids, if you think it works, it works ;-) The biggest complaint with Comcast here is reliability. Zero bps is still zero, no matter how fast they say it is when it is working. My board president called me yesterday to get an Email out to the board because Comcast was down. I asked her who did she think would get it? It turned out the DSL and 4G (phone) people. As previously mentioned we don't seem to have your Comcast problem up here. Even in the last two high wind snowstorms and power outages, the Comcast service was only out very briefly and I was able to watch TV powering it and the cable box with the generator. Maybe cables like cold, windy snowstorms instead of warm, 80 degree sunshine. :-) Our problem is Comcast refuses to upgrade the hardware. I am not sure if they are waiting for some new technology (all fiber or something) or they just know they have no real competition so screw you. As for speed, I don't have to "think" it's faster. I did several speed tests using different test providers. It *is* faster now, with the average download speed between 92 and 110 Mbps. It's noticeable on the computer that I use 90 percent of the time to connect to the Internet. I have no doubt it is faster, I just wonder how that really helps unless you have a dozen people steaming movies at the same time. I can support 2 movie streams and browse at 10 meg. My net response doesn't really change in any noticeable way whether I have those streams going or not and it is not unlike my FIL's Comcast connection. For some reason the net seldom ever "snaps" here whether you are on Comcast or DSL. I was actually surprised because he brags about what his speed is supposed to be and he has a machine on W/10. (so Harry can't blame the CP/M machine I am supposed to be running) We must have some kind of choke point upstream somewhere. I know there is a speed bump at Giganews because a big download from them goes about the same speed whether I have one going or 3. If I am downloading music I will start 3 instances of Agent and get one going on each. Per song, it stays the same but I am getting 3 at a time. You upgraded to CP/M? Congrats! There are "choke points" everywhere along the line on cable because cab;e internet is shared within a neighborhood. All ISPs use shared bandwidth, even fiber. That is one advantage of DSL. You own that whole channel, all the way back to the fiber backbone so you usually get all you pay for, no matter how badly your neighbors are pounding the connection. Cable shares that channel with everyone on your node. (granted a much faster channel) Comcast is still running on copper here and once I get to the distribution box at the end of the street my DSL is fiber. It is all underground. Comcast is up on the pole suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous weather. Both still share that problem that they need to power the distribution boxes When I had DSL, seemed as if was dead in the evenings. Figured more than me were on the channel. === It depends where you are and on how the DSL back haul is configured. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 10:20:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/17/18 7:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:52:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 5:07 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:43:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 4:24 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:01:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Apparently Comcast here had a promotion for providing a higher speed package. I wasn't aware of it because I have my Comcast bill paid automatically so I don't pay too much attention to their email announcements. My latest bill went up by $13 a month for the WiFi Internet. Didn't know you had to "opt out" of the speed upgrade. But, I think I'll keep it. My original service was the basic 25Mbs service which worked fine but I noticed a couple of weeks ago when I was comparing Comcast to the AT&T service that Comcast was much faster. So, I just did a speed test from my computer. Over 100Mbps download and 20Mbs upload. Worth an extra $13/mo I think. Only if you can actually exploit it to your advantage. Otherwise it is like owning a Lamborghini. You know it will do 180 but the speed limit is 55 or less everywhere you drive. It may make you feel better but you paid a lot for performance you will never use. I think the faster speed is primarily for having more devices on the system at the same time without it bogging down but I can see quite a difference with only 3 devices on it. My computer is connected via Ethernet cable to the modem so it's only two cell phones on the WiFi. It's definitely faster browsing or looking up stuff via Google though. No delay at all opening a website. It just snaps. Mikey likes it. Like golf clubs, fishing lures and marital aids, if you think it works, it works ;-) The biggest complaint with Comcast here is reliability. Zero bps is still zero, no matter how fast they say it is when it is working. My board president called me yesterday to get an Email out to the board because Comcast was down. I asked her who did she think would get it? It turned out the DSL and 4G (phone) people. As previously mentioned we don't seem to have your Comcast problem up here. Even in the last two high wind snowstorms and power outages, the Comcast service was only out very briefly and I was able to watch TV powering it and the cable box with the generator. Maybe cables like cold, windy snowstorms instead of warm, 80 degree sunshine. :-) Our problem is Comcast refuses to upgrade the hardware. I am not sure if they are waiting for some new technology (all fiber or something) or they just know they have no real competition so screw you. As for speed, I don't have to "think" it's faster. I did several speed tests using different test providers. It *is* faster now, with the average download speed between 92 and 110 Mbps. It's noticeable on the computer that I use 90 percent of the time to connect to the Internet. I have no doubt it is faster, I just wonder how that really helps unless you have a dozen people steaming movies at the same time. I can support 2 movie streams and browse at 10 meg. My net response doesn't really change in any noticeable way whether I have those streams going or not and it is not unlike my FIL's Comcast connection. For some reason the net seldom ever "snaps" here whether you are on Comcast or DSL. I was actually surprised because he brags about what his speed is supposed to be and he has a machine on W/10. (so Harry can't blame the CP/M machine I am supposed to be running) We must have some kind of choke point upstream somewhere. I know there is a speed bump at Giganews because a big download from them goes about the same speed whether I have one going or 3. If I am downloading music I will start 3 instances of Agent and get one going on each. Per song, it stays the same but I am getting 3 at a time. You upgraded to CP/M? Congrats! There are "choke points" everywhere along the line on cable because cab;e internet is shared within a neighborhood. All ISPs use shared bandwidth, even fiber. That is one advantage of DSL. You own that whole channel, all the way back to the fiber backbone so you usually get all you pay for, no matter how badly your neighbors are pounding the connection. Cable shares that channel with everyone on your node. (granted a much faster channel) Comcast is still running on copper here and once I get to the distribution box at the end of the street my DSL is fiber. It is all underground. Comcast is up on the pole suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous weather. Both still share that problem that they need to power the distribution boxes When I had DSL, seemed as if was dead in the evenings. Figured more than me were on the channel. === It depends where you are and on how the DSL back haul is configured. I am sure DSL must be much improved since we had it in Florida. Back then (2000-2004) there were some periods of the day that it wasn't worth trying to get on. Even up here in 2009 when I had the guitar shop and DSL it worked ok for the most part but as I have mentioned before I stopped trying to update the shop website using it. Took too long and sometimes dropped out right in the middle of the upload and I'd have to start all over. Made it a practice of doing it from home on the cable service. But, DSL sure was an improvement over the original, dial-up I had back in the early 90's. |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 10:20:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/17/18 7:33 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:52:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 5:07 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:43:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2018 4:24 PM, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 13:01:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Apparently Comcast here had a promotion for providing a higher speed package. I wasn't aware of it because I have my Comcast bill paid automatically so I don't pay too much attention to their email announcements. My latest bill went up by $13 a month for the WiFi Internet. Didn't know you had to "opt out" of the speed upgrade. But, I think I'll keep it. My original service was the basic 25Mbs service which worked fine but I noticed a couple of weeks ago when I was comparing Comcast to the AT&T service that Comcast was much faster. So, I just did a speed test from my computer. Over 100Mbps download and 20Mbs upload. Worth an extra $13/mo I think. Only if you can actually exploit it to your advantage. Otherwise it is like owning a Lamborghini. You know it will do 180 but the speed limit is 55 or less everywhere you drive. It may make you feel better but you paid a lot for performance you will never use. I think the faster speed is primarily for having more devices on the system at the same time without it bogging down but I can see quite a difference with only 3 devices on it. My computer is connected via Ethernet cable to the modem so it's only two cell phones on the WiFi. It's definitely faster browsing or looking up stuff via Google though. No delay at all opening a website. It just snaps. Mikey likes it. Like golf clubs, fishing lures and marital aids, if you think it works, it works ;-) The biggest complaint with Comcast here is reliability. Zero bps is still zero, no matter how fast they say it is when it is working. My board president called me yesterday to get an Email out to the board because Comcast was down. I asked her who did she think would get it? It turned out the DSL and 4G (phone) people. As previously mentioned we don't seem to have your Comcast problem up here. Even in the last two high wind snowstorms and power outages, the Comcast service was only out very briefly and I was able to watch TV powering it and the cable box with the generator. Maybe cables like cold, windy snowstorms instead of warm, 80 degree sunshine. :-) Our problem is Comcast refuses to upgrade the hardware. I am not sure if they are waiting for some new technology (all fiber or something) or they just know they have no real competition so screw you. As for speed, I don't have to "think" it's faster. I did several speed tests using different test providers. It *is* faster now, with the average download speed between 92 and 110 Mbps. It's noticeable on the computer that I use 90 percent of the time to connect to the Internet. I have no doubt it is faster, I just wonder how that really helps unless you have a dozen people steaming movies at the same time. I can support 2 movie streams and browse at 10 meg. My net response doesn't really change in any noticeable way whether I have those streams going or not and it is not unlike my FIL's Comcast connection. For some reason the net seldom ever "snaps" here whether you are on Comcast or DSL. I was actually surprised because he brags about what his speed is supposed to be and he has a machine on W/10. (so Harry can't blame the CP/M machine I am supposed to be running) We must have some kind of choke point upstream somewhere. I know there is a speed bump at Giganews because a big download from them goes about the same speed whether I have one going or 3. If I am downloading music I will start 3 instances of Agent and get one going on each. Per song, it stays the same but I am getting 3 at a time. You upgraded to CP/M? Congrats! There are "choke points" everywhere along the line on cable because cab;e internet is shared within a neighborhood. All ISPs use shared bandwidth, even fiber. That is one advantage of DSL. You own that whole channel, all the way back to the fiber backbone so you usually get all you pay for, no matter how badly your neighbors are pounding the connection. Cable shares that channel with everyone on your node. (granted a much faster channel) Comcast is still running on copper here and once I get to the distribution box at the end of the street my DSL is fiber. It is all underground. Comcast is up on the pole suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous weather. Both still share that problem that they need to power the distribution boxes When I had DSL, seemed as if was dead in the evenings. Figured more than me were on the channel. You may not have had enough bandwidth at the distribution box. Sprint has a fiber backbone to the distribution boxes with plenty of bandwidth. There was even a rumor that they ran fiber through the neighborhood but it was never connected to homes. I know that in 2004 when I did a "locate" they marked 3 phone lines in the right of way. Now days they only mark 2 so it is possible they had a problem with the fiber when they tried to hook it up and just abandoned it. I hope it wasn't the royal palm I had out there that killed the fiber ;-) |
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:03:52 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 11:36:52 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 08:22:38 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 20:11:45 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I see you can get a metal bar shaped to attach to the plastic handle of the EU2000i generators. Protects against thieves sawing through the plastic carry handle. Saw a generator attached to a gray box on a lamppost up the street during our 2 and a half day power outage early January. Generator there seemed to be about the size of a 5000 watt model. Those are a worthwhile investment. I use that with a cable attaching the generator to my RV when camping. I suppose it all depends on the determination of the thief. If they are carrying a side grinder or a bolt cutter that will handle the lock or cable, they are taking the generator. I put a 5/8" eye bolt through the wall of the garage, double nutted on the inside to deter a thief but only because that was what I had handy. It is what FPL uses to hook guy wires to light poles. It does look impressive tho ;-) During Irma I had my generator chained to the gas pipe. That really did not seem like a good idea but it was all I had at the time. Yup. If they've a grinder or cutter that will handle it, they've got themselves a generator. As long as they're so quiet they don't wake the dogs. What do you fasten to the eye bolt? A chain? It is a piece of 3/8" SS cable I got from someone with eyes crimped on each end. I loop it through a couple pipes in the frame and lock it up with one of those big "Harley" locks with the round key. It will stop the guy who did not bring tools. |
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:51:49 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 15:03:52 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 11:36:52 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 08:22:38 -0400, John H. wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 20:11:45 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: I see you can get a metal bar shaped to attach to the plastic handle of the EU2000i generators. Protects against thieves sawing through the plastic carry handle. Saw a generator attached to a gray box on a lamppost up the street during our 2 and a half day power outage early January. Generator there seemed to be about the size of a 5000 watt model. Those are a worthwhile investment. I use that with a cable attaching the generator to my RV when camping. I suppose it all depends on the determination of the thief. If they are carrying a side grinder or a bolt cutter that will handle the lock or cable, they are taking the generator. I put a 5/8" eye bolt through the wall of the garage, double nutted on the inside to deter a thief but only because that was what I had handy. It is what FPL uses to hook guy wires to light poles. It does look impressive tho ;-) During Irma I had my generator chained to the gas pipe. That really did not seem like a good idea but it was all I had at the time. Yup. If they've a grinder or cutter that will handle it, they've got themselves a generator. As long as they're so quiet they don't wake the dogs. What do you fasten to the eye bolt? A chain? It is a piece of 3/8" SS cable I got from someone with eyes crimped on each end. I loop it through a couple pipes in the frame and lock it up with one of those big "Harley" locks with the round key. It will stop the guy who did not bring tools. My cable's only about 3/16", but, like you say, without tools, the generator isn't going anywhere. |
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