Groan again ....
 

Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:04:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.

The best peanut butter invented:

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/04f...0&odnBg=FFFFFF

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For the Halifax area they're calling for the same numbers.......in centimeters.
Our 20 roughly converts to 8 in American talk.. I can live with that.

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:04:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.

The best peanut butter invented:

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/04f...0&odnBg=FFFFFF


Did you read the label? Last time I looked a Jif or Skippy “natural� PB,
was palm oil, and other additives. We use Trader Joe PB for the House.
Rat traps get dollar store stuff.

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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.

Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.

Groan again ....
 

On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

Groan again ....
 

Bill Wrote in message:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:04:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.

The best peanut butter invented:

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/04f...0&odnBg=FFFFFF


Did you read the label? Last time I looked a Jif or Skippy ?natural? PB,
was palm oil, and other additives. We use Trader Joe PB for the House.
Rat traps get dollar store stuff.



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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.




Try Yingling. It's less filling.

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On 3/13/2018 7:07 AM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.




Try Yingling. It's less filling.



Maybe this summer. Right now I am in withdrawals of Dunkin' Donuts coffee.

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 03:38:48 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:04:58 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.

The best peanut butter invented:

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/04f...0&odnBg=FFFFFF


Did you read the label? Last time I looked a Jif or Skippy “natural” PB,
was palm oil, and other additives. We use Trader Joe PB for the House.
Rat traps get dollar store stuff.

"Trader Joe’s Creamy No-Stir Peanut Butter Spread and Trader Joe’s Crunchy No-Stir Peanut Butter
Spread* are both the result of that sleeve-rolling and—full disclosure again—spoon dipping. They’re
made with simple ingredients—just a few more of them than you’ll find in the “Need to Stir”
varieties.

Each jar has peanuts (ground to either a creamy or crunchy consistency), palm oil, a little cane
sugar, and a pinch of salt. The oil and sugar help to keep the natural oils from separating, making
it possible to open a jar of our No-Stir Peanut Butter, stick a spoon right in, and enjoy the rich,
peanutty taste of good quality PB, no stirring required."

Jif Ingredients: Made From Peanuts, Sugar, Palm Oil, Contains 2% Or Less Of: Salt, Molasses.

Case closed.

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On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 07:37:51 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

To me, it's everything in moderation.

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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 07:37:51 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

To me, it's everything in moderation.


I had a mojito in Florida, my first ?adult beverage? of this year. I don?t
like the taste of alcohol. The mojito was too ?fumey? for my taste.

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5:37 AMMr. Luddite
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

....

Well Richard, around here we have the ag and oilfield community which does plenty of the suds. Seems the less for you means the more for them.

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On 3/13/18 9:51 AM, Tim wrote:

5:37 AMMr. Luddite
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

...

Well Richard, around here we have the ag and oilfield community which does plenty of the suds. Seems the less for you means the more for them.


Right, because beer is in short supply.

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Keyser Soze
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/18 9:51 AM, Tim wrote:

5:37 AMMr. Luddite
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

...

Well Richard, around here we have the ag and oilfield community which does plenty of the suds. Seems the less for you means the more for them.


Right, because beer is in short supply.

....

Stands to reason. One less for you means one more for someone else.

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On 3/13/18 10:10 AM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/18 9:51 AM, Tim wrote:

5:37 AMMr. Luddite
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

...

Well Richard, around here we have the ag and oilfield community which does plenty of the suds. Seems the less for you means the more for them.


Right, because beer is in short supply.

...

Stands to reason. One less for you means one more for someone else.


Yeah, you probably believe that.

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Keyser Soze
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/18 10:10 AM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/18 9:51 AM, Tim wrote:

5:37 AMMr. Luddite
- hide quoted text -
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.

...

Well Richard, around here we have the ag and oilfield community which does plenty of the suds. Seems the less for you means the more for them.


Right, because beer is in short supply.

...

Stands to reason. One less for you means one more for someone else.


Yeah, you probably believe that.

....

Sure Harry. Who else gets the spare beer?

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 03:07:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.

Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.

.... and gasoline.
For us it is also ice but I guess you have plenty of that.

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.




The grandkids were here a while back. So had most of a half gallon of milk
left. So, for the first time, made a banana cream pie. Turned out
excellent. Still milk left, so we made rice pudding. End of milk. As
to beer, I have a rare one, and is normally a dark beer. Negro Modelo,
etc.

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Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.




The grandkids were here a while back. So had most of a half gallon of milk
left. So, for the first time, made a banana cream pie. Turned out
excellent. Still milk left, so we made rice pudding. End of milk. As
to beer, I have a rare one, and is normally a dark beer. Negro Modelo,
etc.



John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients “dry roasted peanuts�. That’s total list of
ingredients.

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:43:36 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/13/2018 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:05:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Snowfall forecast has been upped since this morning.

Now predicting 15" to 20" in blizzard conditions
tomorrow from just south of Boston down to the upper Cape.

Filled up the truck with gas, fired up the generator to make
sure it will start easily, bought some fresh bread, peanut butter
and jelly.

Not going anywhere tomorrow.


Around here the winter storm commodities seem to be bread, milk, and beer.


Getting old sucks. Don't do white bread anymore. Don't do milk.
Gave up beer reluctantly several years ago. I like beer but it
doesn't like me. Even one Sam Adams makes me feel bloated, etc.

Once in a great while I have a glass of red wine. That's it.




The grandkids were here a while back. So had most of a half gallon of milk
left. So, for the first time, made a banana cream pie. Turned out
excellent. Still milk left, so we made rice pudding. End of milk. As
to beer, I have a rare one, and is normally a dark beer. Negro Modelo,
etc.



John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients “dry roasted peanuts”. That’s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients “dry roasted peanuts�. That’s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.

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wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients “dry roasted peanuts�. That’s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients “dry roasted peanuts�. That’s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.

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wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients “dry roasted peanuts�. That’s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients “dry roasted peanuts�. That’s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.

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Wrote in message:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.


Do you eat your bananas?
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On 3/12/2018 5:38 PM, True North wrote:
For the Halifax area they're calling for the same numbers.......in centimeters.
Our 20 roughly converts to 8 in American talk.. I can live with that.

I think I'll lounge on the beach in the Redneck Riviera with a Margaurita.

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
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John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.


Do you eat your bananas?

Sure but they are so packed with sugar, you can't really eat a lot of
them. These are not those bright yellow hybrids with no taste and a
grainy texture like you get at the grocery store. They are short, fat
and soft inside. Since I do not use pesticides on them, the skins are
usually not all that pretty but it is just the skin that is affected.
Nature is good about that sort of thing.
The same is true of citrus. If an orange is really pretty, you can
believe there is not a lot of taste in there. I won't even buy
California Navels because they are virtually tasteless. Maybe you get
better ones out there but the ones you ship are ****.

Groan again ....
 

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.


Do you eat your bananas?

Sure but they are so packed with sugar, you can't really eat a lot of
them. These are not those bright yellow hybrids with no taste and a
grainy texture like you get at the grocery store. They are short, fat
and soft inside. Since I do not use pesticides on them, the skins are
usually not all that pretty but it is just the skin that is affected.
Nature is good about that sort of thing.
The same is true of citrus. If an orange is really pretty, you can
believe there is not a lot of taste in there. I won't even buy
California Navels because they are virtually tasteless. Maybe you get
better ones out there but the ones you ship are ****.


Have you read the labels on your laundry detergent and any other
additives you might use?
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:30:35 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.


Do you eat your bananas?

Sure but they are so packed with sugar, you can't really eat a lot of
them. These are not those bright yellow hybrids with no taste and a
grainy texture like you get at the grocery store. They are short, fat
and soft inside. Since I do not use pesticides on them, the skins are
usually not all that pretty but it is just the skin that is affected.
Nature is good about that sort of thing.
The same is true of citrus. If an orange is really pretty, you can
believe there is not a lot of taste in there. I won't even buy
California Navels because they are virtually tasteless. Maybe you get
better ones out there but the ones you ship are ****.


Have you read the labels on your laundry detergent and any other
additives you might use?

Betcha it's worse than Jif Super Crunch Peanut Butter!

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:30:35 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.


Do you eat your bananas?

Sure but they are so packed with sugar, you can't really eat a lot of
them. These are not those bright yellow hybrids with no taste and a
grainy texture like you get at the grocery store. They are short, fat
and soft inside. Since I do not use pesticides on them, the skins are
usually not all that pretty but it is just the skin that is affected.
Nature is good about that sort of thing.
The same is true of citrus. If an orange is really pretty, you can
believe there is not a lot of taste in there. I won't even buy
California Navels because they are virtually tasteless. Maybe you get
better ones out there but the ones you ship are ****.


Have you read the labels on your laundry detergent and any other
additives you might use?

Sodium carbonate, sodium silicate, table salt and a trace amount of
alcohols.
Nothing real scary.

Groan again ....
 

On Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:25:58 UTC-3, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:30:35 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine..


Do you eat your bananas?

Sure but they are so packed with sugar, you can't really eat a lot of
them. These are not those bright yellow hybrids with no taste and a
grainy texture like you get at the grocery store. They are short, fat
and soft inside. Since I do not use pesticides on them, the skins are
usually not all that pretty but it is just the skin that is affected.
Nature is good about that sort of thing.
The same is true of citrus. If an orange is really pretty, you can
believe there is not a lot of taste in there. I won't even buy
California Navels because they are virtually tasteless. Maybe you get
better ones out there but the ones you ship are ****.


Have you read the labels on your laundry detergent and any other
additives you might use?

Sodium carbonate, sodium silicate, table salt and a trace amount of
alcohols.
Nothing real scary.

This is the only peanut butter I'll eat. Great for making peanut butter cookies too. Even our Springer Spaniel likes a small dollop on his antibiotic pills.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/kraft-s...CxmoQAvD _BwE

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True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:25:58 UTC-3, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:30:35 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.


Do you eat your bananas?

Sure but they are so packed with sugar, you can't really eat a lot of
them. These are not those bright yellow hybrids with no taste and a
grainy texture like you get at the grocery store. They are short, fat
and soft inside. Since I do not use pesticides on them, the skins are
usually not all that pretty but it is just the skin that is affected.
Nature is good about that sort of thing.
The same is true of citrus. If an orange is really pretty, you can
believe there is not a lot of taste in there. I won't even buy
California Navels because they are virtually tasteless. Maybe you get
better ones out there but the ones you ship are ****.


Have you read the labels on your laundry detergent and any other
additives you might use?

Sodium carbonate, sodium silicate, table salt and a trace amount of
alcohols.
Nothing real scary.

This is the only peanut butter I'll eat. Great for making peanut butter
cookies too. Even our Springer Spaniel likes a small dollop on his antibiotic pills.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/kraft-s...CxmoQAvD _BwE


Not real healthy peanut butter. May be tasty, but not top of the line
healthy.
pIngredients: Select Roasted Peanuts, Soybean Oil, Corn Maltodextrin,
Sugar, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cotton Seed And Rapeseed Oil), Salt,
Mono- And Diglycerides./p

If you have Trader Joe. Get the stir PB.
Ingredients “ dry roasted peanuts�. That’s it.

Groan again ....
 

Bill
- show quoted text -
Not real healthy peanut butter. May be tasty, but not top of the line
healthy.
pIngredients: Select Roasted Peanuts, Soybean Oil, Corn Maltodextrin,
Sugar, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cotton Seed And Rapeseed Oil), Salt,
Mono- And Diglycerides./p

If you have Trader Joe. Get the stir PB.
Ingredients “ dry roasted peanuts�. That’s it.

.....

Bill I found out a long time ago that there’s not much of anything tasty that’s actually healthy

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Tim wrote:
Bill
- show quoted text -
Not real healthy peanut butter. May be tasty, but not top of the line
healthy.
Ingredients: Select Roasted Peanuts, Soybean Oil, Corn Maltodextrin,
Sugar, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cotton Seed And Rapeseed Oil), Salt,
Mono- And Diglycerides./p

If you have Trader Joe. Get the stir PB.
Ingredients “ dry roasted peanuts�. That’s it.

....

Bill I found out a long time ago that there’s not much of anything tasty
that’s actually healthy


Trader Jose’s Pb is. Maybe not the healthiest way to eat peanuts.

Groan again ....
 

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:13:48 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:25:58 UTC-3, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:30:35 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:20:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 02:50:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:26:33 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:22:05 -0400, John H.
wrote:


John, the Trader Joe PB we use is the crunchy unsalted PB. Needs stirring.
Lists ingredients ?dry roasted peanuts?. That?s total list of
ingredients.

I don't have the patience for stirring. Besides, palm oil is not that
bad for you. Hell, if Trader
Joe's puts it in their peanut butter, it can't be too damn bad, eh?

The biggest complaint about palm oil is the unsustainable way they get
it, not that it was bad for you.


It is sustainable, but probably the fertilizer, etc. seems as if less
problems than bananas. The palm oil plantations look like they have been
going a long time. Pollution from the processing. Dark smoke from the
stacks. I think they used the dates after pressing for the heat source.

The issue is how they clear rain forests to plant palms for the oil. I
suppose you could say the same thing about most farming but palms and
sugar cane seem to be the ones they talk about the most. It is true
that the rise in CO2 does coincide with the rise of agriculture and
the booming population that allowed.


The place I saw palms was coastal Costa Rica. Not the true rain forest.
The palm plantations looked old. They do replace trees, we saw that.
Probably requires a lot of fertilizer. Worst crop from what I saw was
bananas. Talking to the fishing guide, he says environmental disaster.
Normal banana plant has one crop a year. They heavily fertilize and get
two crops and use lots of pesticides. When the rainy season arrives, the
excess fertilizer and poison kills lot of the fish in the rivers and delta
areas. We were in Tortuguero and he said lots of dead tarpon floating at
that time.

My bananas don't get anything but the water from the washing machine.


Do you eat your bananas?

Sure but they are so packed with sugar, you can't really eat a lot of
them. These are not those bright yellow hybrids with no taste and a
grainy texture like you get at the grocery store. They are short, fat
and soft inside. Since I do not use pesticides on them, the skins are
usually not all that pretty but it is just the skin that is affected.
Nature is good about that sort of thing.
The same is true of citrus. If an orange is really pretty, you can
believe there is not a lot of taste in there. I won't even buy
California Navels because they are virtually tasteless. Maybe you get
better ones out there but the ones you ship are ****.


Have you read the labels on your laundry detergent and any other
additives you might use?

Sodium carbonate, sodium silicate, table salt and a trace amount of
alcohols.
Nothing real scary.

This is the only peanut butter I'll eat. Great for making peanut butter
cookies too. Even our Springer Spaniel likes a small dollop on his antibiotic pills.
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/kraft-s...CxmoQAvD _BwE


Not real healthy peanut butter. May be tasty, but not top of the line
healthy.
pIngredients: Select Roasted Peanuts, Soybean Oil, Corn Maltodextrin,
Sugar, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil (Cotton Seed And Rapeseed Oil), Salt,
Mono- And Diglycerides./p

If you have Trader Joe. Get the stir PB.
Ingredients “ dry roasted peanuts”. That’s it.

And you thought my Jif Natural was bad. Hell, that stuff sounds like laundry detergent.