On 13 Mar 2018 17:49:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:37:16 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 09:37:34 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:48:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:06:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:05:53 -0400,
wrote:

It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.


It did not help the advancement of labor saving technology if they
understood they still needed to employ the same number of people.


==
Certainly union agreements didn't help but It was more fundamental
than that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-05/steel-history-shows-how-america-lost-ground-to-europe

Better, cheaper technology became widely available but US steel
companies didn't invest in it for reasons that are not entirely clear.
The only exception was Nucor that continues to do well, even in the
face of foreign competition.

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Cheaper technologies exist for the distribution of mail - like corner,
multiple mail boxes. Who's
fighting it? The unions, because more efficient delivery means fewer
mailmen. The same would have
been true of the steel industry, I believe.

Up here a lot of seniors were upset about losing home delivery. Often
enough they wouldn't be able to safely make it to a neighbourhood super
mail box..especially during the winter. It was one of the election
issues a couple years ago that trashed our then Conservative Govt.


Why do we need 6day a week delivery? Heck 4 would be sufficient. All the
real timely reports seem to come via email.


We lost Saturday mail when I was a kid...or maybe high school. It's been
5 day a week door to door here in the city ever since.


Right-wing trash is always eager to eliminate someone else’s job.

Proves my point. Keep wasting the money 'cause the union says to waste the money.

Keyser Soze wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:37:16 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 09:37:34 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:48:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:06:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:05:53 -0400,
wrote:

It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.


It did not help the advancement of labor saving technology if they
understood they still needed to employ the same number of people.


==
Certainly union agreements didn't help but It was more fundamental
than that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-05/steel-history-shows-how-america-lost-ground-to-europe

Better, cheaper technology became widely available but US steel
companies didn't invest in it for reasons that are not entirely clear.
The only exception was Nucor that continues to do well, even in the
face of foreign competition.

---
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Cheaper technologies exist for the distribution of mail - like corner,
multiple mail boxes. Who's
fighting it? The unions, because more efficient delivery means fewer
mailmen. The same would have
been true of the steel industry, I believe.

Up here a lot of seniors were upset about losing home delivery. Often
enough they wouldn't be able to safely make it to a neighbourhood super
mail box..especially during the winter. It was one of the election
issues a couple years ago that trashed our then Conservative Govt.


Why do we need 6day a week delivery? Heck 4 would be sufficient. All the
real timely reports seem to come via email.


We lost Saturday mail when I was a kid...or maybe high school. It's been
5 day a week door to door here in the city ever since.


Right-wing trash is always eager to eliminate someone else’s job.


Bull****. How much does that extra day cost us taxpayers? Those who
actually pay taxes. Socialism failed everywhere it has been tried. Why
should government, be an employer just to have a job? We would be much
better off, if we actually borrowed he CCC idea and put most of the welfare
collectors to work on infrastructure and cleanup. Save welfare for those
who cannot actually work.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:41:53 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:37:16 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 09:37:34 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:48:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:06:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:05:53 -0400,
wrote:

It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.


It did not help the advancement of labor saving technology if they
understood they still needed to employ the same number of people.


==
Certainly union agreements didn't help but It was more fundamental
than that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-05/steel-history-shows-how-america-lost-ground-to-europe

Better, cheaper technology became widely available but US steel
companies didn't invest in it for reasons that are not entirely clear.
The only exception was Nucor that continues to do well, even in the
face of foreign competition.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Cheaper technologies exist for the distribution of mail - like corner,
multiple mail boxes. Who's
fighting it? The unions, because more efficient delivery means fewer
mailmen. The same would have
been true of the steel industry, I believe.

Up here a lot of seniors were upset about losing home delivery. Often
enough they wouldn't be able to safely make it to a neighbourhood super
mail box..especially during the winter. It was one of the election
issues a couple years ago that trashed our then Conservative Govt.


Why do we need 6day a week delivery? Heck 4 would be sufficient. All the
real timely reports seem to come via email.


We lost Saturday mail when I was a kid...or maybe high school. It's been
5 day a week door to door here in the city ever since.


Right-wing trash is always eager to eliminate someone else’s job.


Bull****. How much does that extra day cost us taxpayers? Those who
actually pay taxes. Socialism failed everywhere it has been tried. Why
should government, be an employer just to have a job? We would be much
better off, if we actually borrowed he CCC idea and put most of the welfare
collectors to work on infrastructure and cleanup. Save welfare for those
who cannot actually work.

Even Donnie would agree wholeheartedly with this post.

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:41:53 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:37:16 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 09:37:34 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:48:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:06:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:05:53 -0400,
wrote:

It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.


It did not help the advancement of labor saving technology if they
understood they still needed to employ the same number of people.


==
Certainly union agreements didn't help but It was more fundamental
than that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-05/steel-history-shows-how-america-lost-ground-to-europe

Better, cheaper technology became widely available but US steel
companies didn't invest in it for reasons that are not entirely clear.
The only exception was Nucor that continues to do well, even in the
face of foreign competition.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Cheaper technologies exist for the distribution of mail - like corner,
multiple mail boxes. Who's
fighting it? The unions, because more efficient delivery means fewer
mailmen. The same would have
been true of the steel industry, I believe.

Up here a lot of seniors were upset about losing home delivery. Often
enough they wouldn't be able to safely make it to a neighbourhood super
mail box..especially during the winter. It was one of the election
issues a couple years ago that trashed our then Conservative Govt.


Why do we need 6day a week delivery? Heck 4 would be sufficient. All the
real timely reports seem to come via email.


We lost Saturday mail when I was a kid...or maybe high school. It's been
5 day a week door to door here in the city ever since.


Right-wing trash is always eager to eliminate someone elseÂ’s job.


Bull****. How much does that extra day cost us taxpayers? Those who
actually pay taxes. Socialism failed everywhere it has been tried. Why
should government, be an employer just to have a job? We would be much
better off, if we actually borrowed he CCC idea and put most of the welfare
collectors to work on infrastructure and cleanup. Save welfare for those
who cannot actually work.

Even Donnie would agree wholeheartedly with this post.


Unions would fight it.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 21:55:28 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:41:53 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:37:16 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2018 09:37:34 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:48:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:06:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:05:53 -0400,
wrote:

It turns out that the US steel industry shot themselves in the foot by
not adopting new technology back in the 1950s while the rest of the
world was doing it - very similar to what happened to the US auto
industry back in the 1970s.


It did not help the advancement of labor saving technology if they
understood they still needed to employ the same number of people.


==
Certainly union agreements didn't help but It was more fundamental
than that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-05/steel-history-shows-how-america-lost-ground-to-europe

Better, cheaper technology became widely available but US steel
companies didn't invest in it for reasons that are not entirely clear.
The only exception was Nucor that continues to do well, even in the
face of foreign competition.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Cheaper technologies exist for the distribution of mail - like corner,
multiple mail boxes. Who's
fighting it? The unions, because more efficient delivery means fewer
mailmen. The same would have
been true of the steel industry, I believe.

Up here a lot of seniors were upset about losing home delivery. Often
enough they wouldn't be able to safely make it to a neighbourhood super
mail box..especially during the winter. It was one of the election
issues a couple years ago that trashed our then Conservative Govt.


Why do we need 6day a week delivery? Heck 4 would be sufficient. All the
real timely reports seem to come via email.


We lost Saturday mail when I was a kid...or maybe high school. It's been
5 day a week door to door here in the city ever since.


Right-wing trash is always eager to eliminate someone else?s job.


Bull****. How much does that extra day cost us taxpayers? Those who
actually pay taxes. Socialism failed everywhere it has been tried. Why
should government, be an employer just to have a job? We would be much
better off, if we actually borrowed he CCC idea and put most of the welfare
collectors to work on infrastructure and cleanup. Save welfare for those
who cannot actually work.

Even Donnie would agree wholeheartedly with this post.


Unions would fight it.

===

Absolutely, they would claim it was unfair exploitation of the
unemployed or some such. It would have to be disguised as a training
program or something similar.