On Monday, 5 March 2018 12:41:14 UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 05:14:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
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On 3/5/2018 1:12 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 12:40:12 -0800 (PST), True North
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On Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:59:47 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/4/2018 1:41 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 12:36:20 -0500, John H.
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 12:25:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/4/2018 11:27 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
On 3/4/2018 10:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/4/2018 10:16 AM, justan wrote:
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On 3/4/2018 10:09 AM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:

No power for the last 2 and a half days.

This area on the south shore of MAÂ* got hit hard with "Riley".Â* Every
where you drive there are trees down on lines, cars, houses,Â* power
poles snapped in half, transformers scattered.Â* Major damage in
some areas.

Just got power back an hour ago.Â* Survived with my little
generator and
a space heater in the bedroom.Â* Didn't bother tying it into the
furnace
this time.Â* House was down to 38 degrees but bedroom was nice and
toasty.

I think I am beginning to believe the climate change people are
right.
Seems like the nor'easters we get now are stronger and more powerful
than I remember from past years.

Anyway, it's finally over.Â* Gotta get ready for the next one late
next
week.Â* Hopefully it won't be as bad.



Youse guys need a road trip.



Check out the flooding in Quincy:

https://tinyurl.com/y89cyky4


Nessie found a new home.



Jokester on Facebook.Â* There's one of those huge, emergency alert
poles with multiple sirens and speakers to warn of issues with the
nuke plant in Plymouth or other dangers located about 2 miles from us
... or it was.Â* It also came down in the storm and made a huge mess
all over the road.Â* Some gusts were recorded at over 100 mph which
isn't unusual in hurricane prone areas but for areas that are rarely
hit with winds that strong they can do a lot of damage.Â* Nature's way
of clearing of old growth and structures I guess.

Our former house in Duxbury lost a bunch of of roof shingles.Â* Feel
bad for the owner but glad I don't have to pay to repair or re shingle.:

https://tinyurl.com/yccdknlz
I don't know if it's true but I heard insurance companies in Florida
won't insure a house with a roof over 15 years old.


Wouldn't surprise me. The ones on the Duxbury house are 19 years old
but are 30 year shingles. So much for that.


Well, the shingles might still be good...if he can find them.

Those shingle warranties are pretty much a joke anyway. It is pro
rated, parts only. Basically if your 30 year shingles fail in 20 years
and they can't demonstrate some kind of uncovered damage, installation
error or other issue, you might get up to 33% of the wholesale price
of the shingle off of buying new ones at full retail. Since the
shingle itself is a small fraction of the cost of a new roof, I doubt
anyone bothers. They do not make the claim easy to make and some only
cover the original home owner. I have never talked to a roofer who
thought the warranty was worth anything. It might be an indication of
relative quality tho.



The father of the buyer of our house has a construction company and he
came out specifically to check the house over and the roof shingles
specifically mainly because the roof area on that house is huge and the
shingles were approaching 18 years old at the time. He checked them out
and told me and the buyer that they were high quality, 30 year shingles
that are hard to get and they had many more years left in them. I know
when we built the cabana we wanted to match the shingles on the house
and they had to special order them. Took quite a while to get. Anyway,
I think the "year" rating is more about their thickness and wear
resistance. At least that's what he told me. It appears the failure
was not because they were worn out. Just like in Florida, once one or
two lift due to high winds, it's like a zipper and a bunch are liking to
go with them. One of the houses we had in Florida had concrete
"shingles" and the other house had those clay looking shingles. Both
houses lost a bunch in the hurricanes we experienced down there.


Wish I had taken my DSLR out and filmed the shingles lifting and flying off the roofs of two apartment buildings down the street. It was like a big 8' x 8' section would stand up and a thousand little black birds taking flight.

One of the problem with shingles is they need to seal down and if it
is too cold they will not stick down right. The glue really need to
get hot pretty quickly after installing to activate the cement. If
dust gets on that strip before they seal, they never will.



Seem to work pretty well as they are used almost exclusively in most of
the country. Usually their failure mode is drying out as they age,
buckling and leaking. Getting ripped off in 90 mph winds is an aberration.

If the cement on the tabs seals right, they are pretty hard to rip off
but you almost need the Florida sun to get them that hot. I know when
I had to cut in the new hip on the roof the old shingles had to be cut
loose.

Metal roofs seem to be gaining in popularity around here but I think
they look horrible. To me it's like putting vinyl siding on a otherwise
nice looking house. Places like NH and Maine have used the metal roofs
for years though due to the snow.

Folks are starting to realize metal is a 50 year roof around here
where shingles are getting pretty dried out after 20.

Brother-in-law was involved in installing metal roofs as a side line a couple years back. Around here they are about twice as expensive to install, although you'd think the labour part would be cheaper.