Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

On 2/22/18 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

He's a perfect candidate to be "Baker-acted."

Love his idea (well, not his idea) of hardening schools to keep out the
gun nuts. Schools don't have enough $$$ to supply kids with pencils and
paper.

On 2/22/2018 10:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/22/18 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

He's a perfect candidate to be "Baker-acted."Â*Â*

Love his idea (well, not his idea) of hardening schools to keep out the
gun nuts. Schools don't have enough $$$ to supply kids with pencils and
paper.


I can certainly understand why opinions on gun control issues are so
divided and so earnestly defended.

Isn't somewhere in the middle a common sense and appropriate for the
times position to take?

On 2/22/18 10:46 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/22/2018 10:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/22/18 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

He's a perfect candidate to be "Baker-acted."Â*Â*

Love his idea (well, not his idea) of hardening schools to keep out
the gun nuts. Schools don't have enough $$$ to supply kids with
pencils and paper.


I can certainly understand why opinions on gun control issues are so
divided and so earnestly defended.

Isn't somewhere in the middle a common sense and appropriate for the
times position to take?



While we are "hardening schools," we'll have to harden shopping centers,
churches, outdoor concert venues, parking lots, et cetera. The idea of
having a policeman or armed teaching guarding an entire school is
laughable. Most schools are pretty large, multi-floor buildings.

Keyser Soze
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While we are "hardening schools," we'll have to harden shopping centers,
churches, outdoor concert venues, parking lots, et cetera. The idea of
having a policeman or armed teaching guarding an entire school is
laughable. Most schools are pretty large, multi-floor buildings.
....

Really?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...iff/index.html

On 2/22/18 12:15 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
While we are "hardening schools," we'll have to harden shopping centers,
churches, outdoor concert venues, parking lots, et cetera. The idea of
having a policeman or armed teaching guarding an entire school is
laughable. Most schools are pretty large, multi-floor buildings.
...

Really?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...iff/index.html



Ahh, shootouts coming in Ohio public schools of the kind no one wants.
Wonderful.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:15:49 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/22/18 10:46 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/22/2018 10:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/22/18 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

He's a perfect candidate to be "Baker-acted."Â*Â*

Love his idea (well, not his idea) of hardening schools to keep out
the gun nuts. Schools don't have enough $$$ to supply kids with
pencils and paper.


I can certainly understand why opinions on gun control issues are so
divided and so earnestly defended.

Isn't somewhere in the middle a common sense and appropriate for the
times position to take?



While we are "hardening schools," we'll have to harden shopping centers,
churches, outdoor concert venues, parking lots, et cetera. The idea of
having a policeman or armed teaching guarding an entire school is
laughable. Most schools are pretty large, multi-floor buildings.

I tend to agree but in Florida there is usually only one unlocked door
from the outside, the one in the lobby. Either someone blocked another
door open or this guy came in with the other students, carrying a
rifle. Either are possible I suppose.
I do agree that we need to control the nuts. Eliminating soft targets
is pretty much impossible and eliminating potential weapons will just
be a whack a mole game, simply trying to prevent the last attack, not
the next one.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:42:00 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:15:49 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/22/18 10:46 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/22/2018 10:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/22/18 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

He's a perfect candidate to be "Baker-acted."**

Love his idea (well, not his idea) of hardening schools to keep out
the gun nuts. Schools don't have enough $$$ to supply kids with
pencils and paper.


I can certainly understand why opinions on gun control issues are so
divided and so earnestly defended.

Isn't somewhere in the middle a common sense and appropriate for the
times position to take?



While we are "hardening schools," we'll have to harden shopping centers,
churches, outdoor concert venues, parking lots, et cetera. The idea of
having a policeman or armed teaching guarding an entire school is
laughable. Most schools are pretty large, multi-floor buildings.

I tend to agree but in Florida there is usually only one unlocked door
from the outside, the one in the lobby. Either someone blocked another
door open or this guy came in with the other students, carrying a
rifle. Either are possible I suppose.
I do agree that we need to control the nuts. Eliminating soft targets
is pretty much impossible and eliminating potential weapons will just
be a whack a mole game, simply trying to prevent the last attack, not
the next one.

Or someone could have opened a side door for him at a pre-selected time.

On 2/22/18 2:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:15:49 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/22/18 10:46 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/22/2018 10:19 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/22/18 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

He's a perfect candidate to be "Baker-acted."Â*Â*

Love his idea (well, not his idea) of hardening schools to keep out
the gun nuts. Schools don't have enough $$$ to supply kids with
pencils and paper.


I can certainly understand why opinions on gun control issues are so
divided and so earnestly defended.

Isn't somewhere in the middle a common sense and appropriate for the
times position to take?



While we are "hardening schools," we'll have to harden shopping centers,
churches, outdoor concert venues, parking lots, et cetera. The idea of
having a policeman or armed teaching guarding an entire school is
laughable. Most schools are pretty large, multi-floor buildings.

I tend to agree but in Florida there is usually only one unlocked door
from the outside, the one in the lobby. Either someone blocked another
door open or this guy came in with the other students, carrying a
rifle. Either are possible I suppose.
I do agree that we need to control the nuts. Eliminating soft targets
is pretty much impossible and eliminating potential weapons will just
be a whack a mole game, simply trying to prevent the last attack, not
the next one.



The Florida school was spread out over more than one building and
apparently there was legitimate student and teacher traffic between the
buildings during the day, so locked door access might have been an issue.

The high school I went to had many exit doors, but only one entrance
door. A side door led to the track and field area, but once the kids got
out there, the only way back in through that door was with the help of a
key one of the teachers or coaches had on his/her person.

All the kids gathered in front of the school in the morning until the
opening bell rang. Then, the front doors opened and a crew of assistant
principals/teachers looked everyone over as the students stormed in. I
suppose a kid could have sneaked in with a revolver, but to the best of
my knowledge, it didn't happen back then.

My dad had a few guns. The pistols were kept in a safe at his store, and
the shotgun was kept locked up at the outdoor sports club where he shot
clays. I didn't even know about one of the handguns until after he died
and I opened the safe. I gave them to one of his long-time buddies, and
I donated the shotgun to the club.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:19:21 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/22/18 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Watching and listening to Wayne Lapierre speak at the CPAC.

Guy is really screwed up, IMO.

He's a perfect candidate to be "Baker-acted."

Love his idea (well, not his idea) of hardening schools to keep out the
gun nuts. Schools don't have enough $$$ to supply kids with pencils and
paper.

That begs the question, what are they doing with the $15-20k a year we
are spending per kid.