On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Kiddy cruise. Join the navy reserves while in high school. When you
graduated, went to basic and 2 years duty. Then discharged. At least
when I was in high school.

I don't think the Army ever had anything like that. The least time for a voluntary enlistment was
three years. For a draftee, the time was two years. But draftees weren't drafted at 18 either. I was
21 when I got my notice.

I know some 18-19 year old draftees circa 65-66.
Did you have a deferment?

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:44:16 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Kiddy cruise. Join the navy reserves while in high school. When you
graduated, went to basic and 2 years duty. Then discharged. At least
when I was in high school.

I don't think the Army ever had anything like that. The least time for a voluntary enlistment was
three years. For a draftee, the time was two years. But draftees weren't drafted at 18 either. I was
21 when I got my notice.

I know some 18-19 year old draftees circa 65-66.
Did you have a deferment?

Not at all. I was drafted in 1965. All the guys I went in with that were drafted were about the same
age.

Maybe you had some buddies that volunteered for the draft?

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 12:28:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:44:16 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Kiddy cruise. Join the navy reserves while in high school. When you
graduated, went to basic and 2 years duty. Then discharged. At least
when I was in high school.

I don't think the Army ever had anything like that. The least time for a voluntary enlistment was
three years. For a draftee, the time was two years. But draftees weren't drafted at 18 either. I was
21 when I got my notice.

I know some 18-19 year old draftees circa 65-66.
Did you have a deferment?

Not at all. I was drafted in 1965. All the guys I went in with that were drafted were about the same
age.

Maybe you had some buddies that volunteered for the draft?

Maybe but one of the guys had his draft notice when he joined the
marines at 19 (in 1966). I suspect the age started creeping down after
65 when we really admitted there was a war going on.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:32:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 12:28:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:44:16 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Kiddy cruise. Join the navy reserves while in high school. When you
graduated, went to basic and 2 years duty. Then discharged. At least
when I was in high school.

I don't think the Army ever had anything like that. The least time for a voluntary enlistment was
three years. For a draftee, the time was two years. But draftees weren't drafted at 18 either. I was
21 when I got my notice.

I know some 18-19 year old draftees circa 65-66.
Did you have a deferment?

Not at all. I was drafted in 1965. All the guys I went in with that were drafted were about the same
age.

Maybe you had some buddies that volunteered for the draft?

Maybe but one of the guys had his draft notice when he joined the
marines at 19 (in 1966). I suspect the age started creeping down after
65 when we really admitted there was a war going on.

That could well be. In '67-'68 we got a huge shipment of McNamara's 100,000 troops in Germany. The
Army was scraping the bottom of the barrel then, and we sure suffered for it. I left Germany for
Vietnam at the end of '68, and I was glad to get away.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:58:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:32:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 12:28:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:44:16 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Kiddy cruise. Join the navy reserves while in high school. When you
graduated, went to basic and 2 years duty. Then discharged. At least
when I was in high school.

I don't think the Army ever had anything like that. The least time for a voluntary enlistment was
three years. For a draftee, the time was two years. But draftees weren't drafted at 18 either. I was
21 when I got my notice.

I know some 18-19 year old draftees circa 65-66.
Did you have a deferment?

Not at all. I was drafted in 1965. All the guys I went in with that were drafted were about the same
age.

Maybe you had some buddies that volunteered for the draft?

Maybe but one of the guys had his draft notice when he joined the
marines at 19 (in 1966). I suspect the age started creeping down after
65 when we really admitted there was a war going on.

That could well be. In '67-'68 we got a huge shipment of McNamara's 100,000 troops in Germany. The
Army was scraping the bottom of the barrel then, and we sure suffered for it. I left Germany for
Vietnam at the end of '68, and I was glad to get away.

My golfing buddy that I have known since 3d grade was one of those. He
graduated from college in june of 68 and was drafted within 6 months.
They ended up making him a computer guy in Germany.
That is where he took up golf.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:09:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:58:03 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:32:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 12:28:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:44:16 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Kiddy cruise. Join the navy reserves while in high school. When you
graduated, went to basic and 2 years duty. Then discharged. At least
when I was in high school.

I don't think the Army ever had anything like that. The least time for a voluntary enlistment was
three years. For a draftee, the time was two years. But draftees weren't drafted at 18 either. I was
21 when I got my notice.

I know some 18-19 year old draftees circa 65-66.
Did you have a deferment?

Not at all. I was drafted in 1965. All the guys I went in with that were drafted were about the same
age.

Maybe you had some buddies that volunteered for the draft?

Maybe but one of the guys had his draft notice when he joined the
marines at 19 (in 1966). I suspect the age started creeping down after
65 when we really admitted there was a war going on.

That could well be. In '67-'68 we got a huge shipment of McNamara's 100,000 troops in Germany. The
Army was scraping the bottom of the barrel then, and we sure suffered for it. I left Germany for
Vietnam at the end of '68, and I was glad to get away.

My golfing buddy that I have known since 3d grade was one of those. He
graduated from college in june of 68 and was drafted within 6 months.
They ended up making him a computer guy in Germany.
That is where he took up golf.

If he graduated college and could read, he wasn't one of McNamarra's 100,000.

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 14:32:21 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 12:28:10 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 11:44:16 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Kiddy cruise. Join the navy reserves while in high school. When you
graduated, went to basic and 2 years duty. Then discharged. At least
when I was in high school.

I don't think the Army ever had anything like that. The least time
for a voluntary enlistment was
three years. For a draftee, the time was two years. But draftees
weren't drafted at 18 either. I was
21 when I got my notice.

I know some 18-19 year old draftees circa 65-66.
Did you have a deferment?

Not at all. I was drafted in 1965. All the guys I went in with that
were drafted were about the same
age.

Maybe you had some buddies that volunteered for the draft?

Maybe but one of the guys had his draft notice when he joined the
marines at 19 (in 1966). I suspect the age started creeping down after
65 when we really admitted there was a war going on.

That could well be. In '67-'68 we got a huge shipment of McNamara's
100,000 troops in Germany. The
Army was scraping the bottom of the barrel then, and we sure suffered for
it. I left Germany for
Vietnam at the end of '68, and I was glad to get away.


You got my brother in law. APC driver in Germany 1969.