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On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:46:21 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:03:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/24/18 12:03 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:17:42 -0500, John H. wrote: I could see making an exception for an individual who has a DD 214 with the honorable discharge I would grant that exception to anything that has an age limit on it. Charles Whitman was honorably discharged from the Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald received a hardship discharge from the Marines. Timothy McVeigh was honorably discharged from the Army. Obviously, an honorable discharge wouldn't catch all the deviants. But how many of them used the weapons under discussion to shoot kids in the schools under discussion? Well Whitman used a rifle to shoot students but it was a bolt action, as was Oswald's., McVeigh didn't use a gun at all and racked up a much higher death count. I am not really sure what point they are making in an AR 15 rant. It really sounds more like my argument that banning ARs is pretty meaningless. |
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:05:10 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:43:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:46:21 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:03:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/24/18 12:03 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:17:42 -0500, John H. wrote: I could see making an exception for an individual who has a DD 214 with the honorable discharge I would grant that exception to anything that has an age limit on it. Charles Whitman was honorably discharged from the Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald received a hardship discharge from the Marines. Timothy McVeigh was honorably discharged from the Army. Obviously, an honorable discharge wouldn't catch all the deviants. But how many of them used the weapons under discussion to shoot kids in the schools under discussion? Well Whitman used a rifle to shoot students but it was a bolt action, as was Oswald's., McVeigh didn't use a gun at all and racked up a much higher death count. I am not really sure what point they are making in an AR 15 rant. It really sounds more like my argument that banning ARs is pretty meaningless. Ask Harry. It was his rant against an honorable discharge. I tend to ignore his anti military rants. I understand that if he had served, that would be all we heard about. |
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On 2/25/2018 12:55 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:05:10 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:43:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:46:21 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:03:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/24/18 12:03 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:17:42 -0500, John H. wrote: I could see making an exception for an individual who has a DD 214 with the honorable discharge I would grant that exception to anything that has an age limit on it. Charles Whitman was honorably discharged from the Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald received a hardship discharge from the Marines. Timothy McVeigh was honorably discharged from the Army. Obviously, an honorable discharge wouldn't catch all the deviants. But how many of them used the weapons under discussion to shoot kids in the schools under discussion? Well Whitman used a rifle to shoot students but it was a bolt action, as was Oswald's., McVeigh didn't use a gun at all and racked up a much higher death count. I am not really sure what point they are making in an AR 15 rant. It really sounds more like my argument that banning ARs is pretty meaningless. Ask Harry. It was his rant against an honorable discharge. I tend to ignore his anti military rants. I understand that if he had served, that would be all we heard about. It's obvious Harry knows very little about the military other than what he's been told or heard. He has already proven how easily he is influenced by others. He parrots daily the latest DNC talking points. |
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On 2/25/18 1:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2018 12:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:05:10 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:43:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:46:21 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:03:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/24/18 12:03 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:17:42 -0500, John H. wrote: I could see making an exception for an individual who has a DD 214 with the honorable discharge I would grant that exception to anything that has an age limit on it. Charles Whitman was honorably discharged from the Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald received a hardship discharge from the Marines. Timothy McVeigh was honorably discharged from the Army. Obviously, an honorable discharge wouldn't catch all the deviants. But how many of them used the weapons under discussion to shoot kids in the schools under discussion? Well Whitman used a rifle to shoot students but it was a bolt action, as was Oswald's., McVeigh didn't use a gun at all and racked up a much higher death count. I am not really sure what point they are making in an AR 15 rant. It really sounds more like my argument that banning ARs is pretty meaningless. Ask Harry. It was his rant against an honorable discharge. I tend to ignore his anti military rants. I understand that if he had served, that would be all we heard about. It's obvious Harry knows very little about the military other than what he's been told or heard.Â* He has already proven how easily he is influenced by others.Â* He parrots daily the latest DNC talking points. My point was that a honorable discharge shouldn't by itself be the qualifier for obtaining a firearm. The discharge in the cases I cited was not an indicator of decent behavior going forward. An age qualifier of 21 plus a good quality background check are more significant. |
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On 2/25/2018 2:08 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/25/18 1:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/25/2018 12:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:05:10 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:43:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:46:21 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:03:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/24/18 12:03 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:17:42 -0500, John H. wrote: I could see making an exception for an individual who has a DD 214 with the honorable discharge I would grant that exception to anything that has an age limit on it. Charles Whitman was honorably discharged from the Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald received a hardship discharge from the Marines. Timothy McVeigh was honorably discharged from the Army. Obviously, an honorable discharge wouldn't catch all the deviants. But how many of them used the weapons under discussion to shoot kids in the schools under discussion? Well Whitman used a rifle to shoot students but it was a bolt action, as was Oswald's., McVeigh didn't use a gun at all and racked up a much higher death count. I am not really sure what point they are making in an AR 15 rant. It really sounds more like my argument that banning ARs is pretty meaningless. Ask Harry. It was his rant against an honorable discharge. I tend to ignore his anti military rants. I understand that if he had served, that would be all we heard about. It's obvious Harry knows very little about the military other than what he's been told or heard.Â* He has already proven how easily he is influenced by others.Â* He parrots daily the latest DNC talking points. My point was that a honorable discharge shouldn't by itself be the qualifier for obtaining a firearm. The discharge in the cases I cited was not an indicator of decent behavior going forward. An age qualifier of 21 plus a good quality background check are more significant. I've lost what the original proposition was but I don't disagree with you. |
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:41:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/25/2018 2:08 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/25/18 1:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/25/2018 12:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:05:10 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:43:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:46:21 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:03:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/24/18 12:03 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:17:42 -0500, John H. wrote: I could see making an exception for an individual who has a DD 214 with the honorable discharge I would grant that exception to anything that has an age limit on it. Charles Whitman was honorably discharged from the Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald received a hardship discharge from the Marines. Timothy McVeigh was honorably discharged from the Army. Obviously, an honorable discharge wouldn't catch all the deviants. But how many of them used the weapons under discussion to shoot kids in the schools under discussion? Well Whitman used a rifle to shoot students but it was a bolt action, as was Oswald's., McVeigh didn't use a gun at all and racked up a much higher death count. I am not really sure what point they are making in an AR 15 rant. It really sounds more like my argument that banning ARs is pretty meaningless. Ask Harry. It was his rant against an honorable discharge. I tend to ignore his anti military rants. I understand that if he had served, that would be all we heard about. It's obvious Harry knows very little about the military other than what he's been told or heard.* He has already proven how easily he is influenced by others.* He parrots daily the latest DNC talking points. My point was that a honorable discharge shouldn't by itself be the qualifier for obtaining a firearm. The discharge in the cases I cited was not an indicator of decent behavior going forward. An age qualifier of 21 plus a good quality background check are more significant. I've lost what the original proposition was but I don't disagree with you. I had proposed a higher age requirement, at least 21, unless the individual had an honorary discharge DD 214. |
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:08:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 2/25/18 1:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/25/2018 12:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:05:10 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 19:43:52 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 16:46:21 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:03:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 2/24/18 12:03 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:17:42 -0500, John H. wrote: I could see making an exception for an individual who has a DD 214 with the honorable discharge I would grant that exception to anything that has an age limit on it. Charles Whitman was honorably discharged from the Marines. Lee Harvey Oswald received a hardship discharge from the Marines. Timothy McVeigh was honorably discharged from the Army. Obviously, an honorable discharge wouldn't catch all the deviants. But how many of them used the weapons under discussion to shoot kids in the schools under discussion? Well Whitman used a rifle to shoot students but it was a bolt action, as was Oswald's., McVeigh didn't use a gun at all and racked up a much higher death count. I am not really sure what point they are making in an AR 15 rant. It really sounds more like my argument that banning ARs is pretty meaningless. Ask Harry. It was his rant against an honorable discharge. I tend to ignore his anti military rants. I understand that if he had served, that would be all we heard about. It's obvious Harry knows very little about the military other than what he's been told or heard.Â* He has already proven how easily he is influenced by others.Â* He parrots daily the latest DNC talking points. My point was that a honorable discharge shouldn't by itself be the qualifier for obtaining a firearm. The discharge in the cases I cited was not an indicator of decent behavior going forward. An age qualifier of 21 plus a good quality background check are more significant. I think the honorable discharge was to avoid the age limitation, not the background check, although I doubt any of the ones you mention could not buy a gun in Md or Ma based on what we knew about them before their crime was committed. |
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