On 1/20/18 10:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2018 10:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/20/18 1:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/19/2018 9:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/19/18 8:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Leaked reports of today's last minute Trump/Schumer meeting
indicate that rather than trying to come to a compromise to avoid a
shut down, Schumer instead delivered a laundry list of additional
items that he wants included in addition to the Dem's DACA demands.

Basically he want's a "parity" budget, addressing all kinds of
budget issues that haven't even been discussed or negotiated yet.


In the history of the United States, there has never been a
government shutdown because of funding while the same party is in
control of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

If you are looking for someone to blame, blame Trump and his
incompetency.


Nope.Â* This one is squarely on the Democrats and in particular their
Senate leader Schumer.Â* You can try to spin it all you want but even
the NYTimes has stated that the Democrats blocked passage of the budget.



You've really swallowed the Trump pill. Once again, your party
controls the White House, the House, and the Senate. It would have
been a no-brainer for them to get behind and pass DACA that TRUMP
alone killed last September, and to extend CHIP. Schumer offered
funding for the wall and more bucks for the military, but Trump turned
him down.

The Dems do not trust Trump to negotiate in good faith and work hard
to make his word mean something with his party in Congress. Why should
the Dems trust Trump to deliver DACA or CHIP? Answer? No reason at all.

It's the Trump Shutdown. Spin as you may.




DACA has nothing to do with passing a budget.Â* DACA is a separate,
legislative issue.

60 votes Harry. 60 votes in the Senate.

Got a kick that the newly hatched Democratic Senator from Alabama, Doug
Jones, voted *for* moving forward on the budget bill vote.Â* One of 6
Dems, if I counted correctly.Â* Probably means Jones hasn't been there
long enough to become programmed by the likes of Schumer.


D'uh. You are smarter than your posts. Oh, Jones...he voted for a
temporary, short-term extension of CHIP funds which were bundled in the
Senate bill. That is all. Alabama is out of CHIP money.