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Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!

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On 1/11/2018 11:14 AM, John H wrote:
Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!



Good news. I was worried that you were going to get totally screwed for
parts and labor.

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?

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Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?
.....

Him screwing around where he didn’t belong 😅

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:29:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/11/2018 11:14 AM, John H wrote:
Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!



Good news. I was worried that you were going to get totally screwed for
parts and labor.

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?


No idea. They have no idea either. Computer glitch, I reckon. I've never had the truck in a skid
situation, so don't know if the ABS works or not. Haven't needed it in the eight years I've had the
truck.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:31:36 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?
....

Him screwing around where he didn’t belong ?

Could be, Tim, could be!

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

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http://www.avg.com

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:04:49 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:29:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/11/2018 11:14 AM, John H wrote:
Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!



Good news. I was worried that you were going to get totally screwed for
parts and labor.

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?


No idea. They have no idea either. Computer glitch, I reckon. I've never had the truck in a skid
situation, so don't know if the ABS works or not. Haven't needed it in the eight years I've had the
truck.

You can test the ABS next time you are in an icy parking lot. Just try
to lock up the brakes. Be sure here is nothing around you to hit but
my guess is you will just come to a jarring stop.
I trip my ABS in the Honda occasionally just by being on a bumpy road
in a hard turn if I tap the brakes. If a wheel leaves the ground, it
senses a significant difference in rotational speed and trips the
system. Scared me the first time. I thought a tire was coming loose or
something.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500,
wrote:

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

It was on the Duramax BB. They suggested that the code did not even
have to be directly engine related.

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On 1/11/2018 1:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.


Makes sense to me.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:17:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:04:49 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:29:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/11/2018 11:14 AM, John H wrote:
Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!



Good news. I was worried that you were going to get totally screwed for
parts and labor.

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?


No idea. They have no idea either. Computer glitch, I reckon. I've never had the truck in a skid
situation, so don't know if the ABS works or not. Haven't needed it in the eight years I've had the
truck.

You can test the ABS next time you are in an icy parking lot. Just try
to lock up the brakes. Be sure here is nothing around you to hit but
my guess is you will just come to a jarring stop.
I trip my ABS in the Honda occasionally just by being on a bumpy road
in a hard turn if I tap the brakes. If a wheel leaves the ground, it
senses a significant difference in rotational speed and trips the
system. Scared me the first time. I thought a tire was coming loose or
something.

Yeah, I know how to do that. I won't be turning hard enough on bumpy roads to raise a wheel of a
2500HD off the ground though!

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:01:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/11/2018 1:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.


Makes sense to me.


And I misheard her about the bill. It was $309.80. Nice little surprise.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:03:09 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:17:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:04:49 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:29:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/11/2018 11:14 AM, John H wrote:
Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!



Good news. I was worried that you were going to get totally screwed for
parts and labor.

Still a question in my curious mind though ... what was responsible for
the "low voltage to the system" ?


No idea. They have no idea either. Computer glitch, I reckon. I've never had the truck in a skid
situation, so don't know if the ABS works or not. Haven't needed it in the eight years I've had the
truck.

You can test the ABS next time you are in an icy parking lot. Just try
to lock up the brakes. Be sure here is nothing around you to hit but
my guess is you will just come to a jarring stop.
I trip my ABS in the Honda occasionally just by being on a bumpy road
in a hard turn if I tap the brakes. If a wheel leaves the ground, it
senses a significant difference in rotational speed and trips the
system. Scared me the first time. I thought a tire was coming loose or
something.

Yeah, I know how to do that. I won't be turning hard enough on bumpy roads to raise a wheel of a
2500HD off the ground though!

The easiest way is to drop the right front tire off the pavement on a
tight turn and hit the invariable hole that will be there.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.

I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.

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On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

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On 1/11/18 6:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage
to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer
was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the
glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with
new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened.
But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd
taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd
have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown.
But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's
running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread.Â* And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention.Â* Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor"Â* wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

No, I don't pay much attention to Herring and his diarrhea here. What is
interesting is that Herring still doesn't know for sure what was wrong
(and might still be wrong) with his truck. Might be some sort of
sporadic problem.

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Wrote in message:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Fat Harry doesn't have one.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.

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On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.

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On 1/12/2018 8:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


I don't own any. I removed the blades by cutting (and saving) a 4x4
block of wood to a measured length that would fit between a blade and a
somewhat flat section of the mower deck. Used a long box wrench to
loosen the blade nut. The 4x4 prevents the blade from turning.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:56:16 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I really doubt Harry has an impact wrench. He would have bragged about his compressor for months.

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On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 8:57:34 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:56:16 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

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I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I really doubt Harry has an impact wrench. He would have bragged about his compressor for months.

It takes a large air compressor to run an impact. They use a lot of air.

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On 1/12/18 8:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2018 8:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have
owned for more than 40 years.


I don't own any.Â* I removed the blades by cutting (and saving) a 4x4
block of wood to a measured length that would fit between a blade and a
somewhat flat section of the mower deck.Â* Used a long box wrench to
loosen the blade nut.Â* The 4x4 prevents the blade from turning.


I used one of mine once...to change a tire. Swiped the older one from my
dad's shop when we shut down the boat store, the other came with a
compressor I bought when we moved into this house.

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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:57:34 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:56:16 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened. But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

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I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown. But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I really doubt Harry has an impact wrench. He would have bragged about his compressor for months.

I know that joke.
"What's that noise"?

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2018 8:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


I don't own any. I removed the blades by cutting (and saving) a 4x4
block of wood to a measured length that would fit between a blade and a
somewhat flat section of the mower deck. Used a long box wrench to
loosen the blade nut. The 4x4 prevents the blade from turning.



Last time I tried to remove my mowers blade, the nut was frozen in place.
Even a long breaker bar did not budge it. Maybe should have tried the air
wrench. Now I spend $100 a month and do not sharpen the blade.

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2018 8:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


I don't own any. I removed the blades by cutting (and saving) a 4x4
block of wood to a measured length that would fit between a blade and a
somewhat flat section of the mower deck. Used a long box wrench to
loosen the blade nut. The 4x4 prevents the blade from turning.



Last time I tried to remove my mowers blade, the nut was frozen in place.
Even a long breaker bar did not budge it. Maybe should have tried the air
wrench. Now I spend $100 a month and do not sharpen the blade.

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John H wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:56:16 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/11/2018 5:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:04:26 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:47:03 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:14:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

Here we go:

No problem with the ABS whatsoever. Mechanic thinks the low voltage
to the system was causing the
OBDII reading.

Batteries in great shape. No need to replace batteries. Computer
was causing anomalies.

#3 glow plug was bad...replaced.

Remote starter now works as normal...must have been tied to the glow plug problem.

Total Bill...$339.80

I can live with that.

Think about it. I expected a bill in the $1000 to $2000 range, with
new ABS stuff, new batteries,
much more labor, etc. I would not have balked had that happened.
But, the shop didn't take advantage
of the situation like they easily could have. I'd bet that if I'd
taken it to a Chevy dealer, I'd be
looking at a bill of at least a couple thousand bucks. But, I'd
have the satisfaction of knowing the
work had been done by union labor!


===

Someone conjectured that the check engine light was causing the
shutdown after remote starting.

That sounds about right to me, and a reasonable precaution in my
opinion.

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I had conjectured that the bad glow plug was causing the shutdown.
But it could have been the glow
plug causing the CEL which then caused the shutdown. Oh well, it's running fine now.

===

Good news, glad to hear it.


I'm sure everyone in the group, except possibly 'Airree, learned
something from this near epic thread. And politics hardly ever reared
its ugly head.



Harry wasn't paying any attention. Being recently offended in another
thread he was in his garage, staring at his "tractor" wondering how the
service guy takes the blades off for sharpening. Every time Harry tried
turning the nut the blades and spindle just turned with it.

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I really doubt Harry has an impact wrench. He would have bragged about
his compressor for months.


What compressor?

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On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.

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On Friday, 12 January 2018 12:39:36 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.

~~Snerk~~
Hee hee...you're killin' me, Harry! ;-)

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True North wrote:
On Friday, 12 January 2018 12:39:36 UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.

~~Snerk~~
Hee hee...you're killin' me, Harry! ;-)


You are easily killed.

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

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On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

---


When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had
occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came
with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires.

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

---


When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had
occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came
with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires.

.... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate
those tools to someone who will use them.

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On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

---


When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had
occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came
with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires.

... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate
those tools to someone who will use them.



An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs
on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on
unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque.
Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud
and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor.

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On 1/12/18 5:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan
wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I
have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use
it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

---


When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had
occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came
with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires.

... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate
those tools to someone who will use them.



An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs
on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on
unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque.
Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud
and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor.




As I stated, I don't change a lot of tires.

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On 1/12/2018 5:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/12/18 5:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan
wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I
have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use
it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

---


When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had
occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that
came
with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires.

... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate
those tools to someone who will use them.



An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel
lugs on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back
on unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque.
Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud
and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor.




As I stated, I don't change a lot of tires.


Wasn't directed specifically to or about you. General information post.

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:27:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

---


When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had
occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came
with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires.

... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate
those tools to someone who will use them.



An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs
on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on
unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque.
Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud
and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor.


Whenever I have tire work done, on the truck or the trailer, I ask them to adjust the torque on the
impact wrenches. It's not a problem, but the mechanics don't seem to think about it. More is better
seems to be their belief.

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On 1/12/2018 5:53 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:27:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/12/2018 5:08 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:22:17 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 3:20 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:33 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/18 10:10 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/11/18 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:35:57 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Use an impact wrench, They spin right off.

I'd be willing to bet that Harry doesn't have one.

Probably not. I have 5, 2 electric and 3 air.



I have a pneumatic impact wrench, two in fact, one of which I have owned
for more than 40 years.


Do ye hav a compressor?



No, **** for brains, I bottle up the hot air you dump here and use it to
power the impact wrench.

Yes, I have a compressor. I've had one for 15 years.


===

So you went 25 years with an impact wrench that you could not use?

---


When we closed up the boat store, I took all the small tools. Never had
occasion to use that impact wrench, and I've only used the one that came
with my compressor once. I don't change a lot of tires.

... or do much of anything else that we see. You should sell or donate
those tools to someone who will use them.



An impact wrench is fine for loosening and removing stubborn wheel lugs
on a car/truck but is not recommended for putting the lugs back on
unless you are really careful and have a means to set it's torque.
Common problems are inadvertently cross threading the lug on the stud
and over-torquing the lug that can result in a warped rotor.


Whenever I have tire work done, on the truck or the trailer, I ask them to adjust the torque on the
impact wrenches. It's not a problem, but the mechanics don't seem to think about it. More is better
seems to be their belief.



I had a set of tires put on by a knucklehead who didn't know how to use
an impact wrench. That's when I learned that over-torquing the lugs can
warp the rotor.