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FAA does it again
http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx
"On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H
wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. |
FAA does it again
On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:56:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 12/13/17 10:54 AM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. There's always electric trains... I have a G gauge going around the house but I am not sure what that has to do with drones. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people here .... including me. Don't like ladders. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/17 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. Maybe Sikorsky down in Stratford will sell you last year's demo model... |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:01:35 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. I am not afraid of ladders but I can get up on my roof without one. The edge is only about 7-8' off the ground. I might play with a drone out in the mangroves but if it went down it is probably gone forever. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 11:30 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/13/17 11:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. Maybe Sikorsky down in Stratford will sell you last year's demo model... Memories. Used to drive by there often when I lived in Woodbridge and then visited there several times years later while in business for some technical discussions. |
FAA does it again
On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:01:35 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. I am not afraid of ladders but I can get up on my roof without one. The edge is only about 7-8' off the ground. I might play with a drone out in the mangroves but if it went down it is probably gone forever. My house is a two story on a sloping lot with the garage under the ground floor, so that roof is 3 stories up. Combined that with the extreme pitch of the roof, and I'm not getting up there. My wife and her siblings had the idea of getting a canvas print made of their parent's house. After Thanksgiving lunch there, we loaded up in the car to come home. We drove to the end of the block, then I got out with the drone and flew it back down to their house so they wouldn't know. I took several shots, we picked the best one, and with a bit of photoshopping it was ready to send to the printers. We did a 24x30 and it came out great. Getting a little elevation in the perspective makes a big difference. When we had the full eclipse back in August I went to my wife's place of employment to view it with her at their eclipse party. The president wanted a picture of all the employees, so after the eclipse they gathered them up and I got a shot of them from above looking up with their eclipse glasses on. They ended up getting it printed on a 30x40 canvas for their lobby and it appeared in their company newsletter (multi-national company). Their are a lot of cool things you can do with one besides spying on your neighbors. :) |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people here .... including me. Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 09:02:21 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:01:35 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. I am not afraid of ladders but I can get up on my roof without one. The edge is only about 7-8' off the ground. I might play with a drone out in the mangroves but if it went down it is probably gone forever. My house is a two story on a sloping lot with the garage under the ground floor, so that roof is 3 stories up. Combined that with the extreme pitch of the roof, and I'm not getting up there. That is like the side elevation of my Maryland house but the deck in the back made it a 1 story up thing. I am in a ranch on a slab at grade here. My wife and her siblings had the idea of getting a canvas print made of their parent's house. After Thanksgiving lunch there, we loaded up in the car to come home. We drove to the end of the block, then I got out with the drone and flew it back down to their house so they wouldn't know. I took several shots, we picked the best one, and with a bit of photoshopping it was ready to send to the printers. We did a 24x30 and it came out great. Getting a little elevation in the perspective makes a big difference. I have 2 of those Giclee prints in the living room. You can have them made online but we have a guy right here in town that does it. I Emailed him the pictures and then went to his shop to get them. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/giclee%20living%20room.jpg |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people here .... including me. Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary. I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:33:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. I notice that on a lot of things. Those 80 pound bags of concrete seem to be getting a lot heavier but I do try to keep my climbing skills intact. I was up in the oak tree next to house with a chain saw after Irma cutting out broken branches. I did lower the saw on a rope tho because I agree, down is harder than up. I do have a decent climbing harness tho and I tied off. I ain't plumb dumb. |
FAA does it again
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. My drone is a $13 indoor copter. Fun, and the grandkids like it. At my boat storage yard, a guy was playing with his quad copter. Really nice unit. He said it is limited to 4000’ but will go to 6000’. Says the software and GPS will not let it fly in to FAA restrictive areas. But was a $5000 rig. |
FAA does it again
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people here* .... including me.* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:32:18 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:01:35 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. I am not afraid of ladders but I can get up on my roof without one. The edge is only about 7-8' off the ground. I might play with a drone out in the mangroves but if it went down it is probably gone forever. You can get them with battery warnings and a 'come home' switch. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 2:47 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. The tower ladders were completely vertical with a small "rest" platform every 50 feet or so. They were within an open metal cage of sorts, I guess so you if you slipped you stood a chance of grabbing something. I remember thinking that my legs were pretty tired after climbing up but I wasn't prepared for the trip back down. By the time I got to the ground my arms felt like they were waterlogged. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 3:10 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= Here's a pic of the 1200' VLF transmitter antenna (center) and the five surrounding, 800' support antennas before most were removed in 1999. I climbed one of the 800' ones. The configuration of the antennas formed a inductive and capacitive load for the million watt VLF transmitter. It's all gone now except I understand that three of the smaller towers remain for historical purposes. It's located on Greenbury Point, in Anne Arundel County. http://www.virhistory.com/navy/commsta/anna/annapolis-ant-1994.jpg NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:10:50 -0500, John H
wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= Looks like a cool place to take a picture from. |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:11:56 -0500, John H
wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:32:18 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:01:35 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. I am not afraid of ladders but I can get up on my roof without one. The edge is only about 7-8' off the ground. I might play with a drone out in the mangroves but if it went down it is probably gone forever. You can get them with battery warnings and a 'come home' switch. What happens if an Osprey thinks it is trying to invade his territory? ;-) |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:13:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/13/2017 2:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. The tower ladders were completely vertical with a small "rest" platform every 50 feet or so. They were within an open metal cage of sorts, I guess so you if you slipped you stood a chance of grabbing something. I remember thinking that my legs were pretty tired after climbing up but I wasn't prepared for the trip back down. By the time I got to the ground my arms felt like they were waterlogged. Now days you would be in a harness and tying off whenever you weren't actually climbing. |
FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 9:04 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:13:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 2:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. The tower ladders were completely vertical with a small "rest" platform every 50 feet or so. They were within an open metal cage of sorts, I guess so you if you slipped you stood a chance of grabbing something. I remember thinking that my legs were pretty tired after climbing up but I wasn't prepared for the trip back down. By the time I got to the ground my arms felt like they were waterlogged. Now days you would be in a harness and tying off whenever you weren't actually climbing. I am sure. Now-a-days I probably would never be allowed to climb it at all. The only thing I made damned sure of was that the million watt transmitter was down for maintenance and wasn't scheduled to be put back on-line for another week. If it had been on the air I doubt our third kid would ever have been conceived. |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:39:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. I thought they still had some VLF stuff. I remember they were protesting in Alaska because there was some kind of array up there (HAARP?). This array was supposed to be capable of talking to a sub under the polar ice. They said it was screwing up the Caribou and Polar Bears, maybe even altering human DNA or some other horrible thing. There were signs hanging around everywhere once you got out of Anchorage. |
FAA does it again
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/13/2017 2:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.Â* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.Â* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people hereÂ* .... including me.Â* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.Â* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. The tower ladders were completely vertical with a small "rest" platform every 50 feet or so. They were within an open metal cage of sorts, I guess so you if you slipped you stood a chance of grabbing something. I remember thinking that my legs were pretty tired after climbing up but I wasn't prepared for the trip back down. By the time I got to the ground my arms felt like they were waterlogged. The control tower stairs were. Maybe a 60degree angle. Steep. |
FAA does it again
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FAA does it again
On 12/13/2017 9:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
There are several Navy VLF transmitters still in operation according to Wiki There's one in Cutler, Maine,Â* another in Washington state, one in Australia and another in Hawaii.Â*Â* The one in Australia is no longer operated by the US or Australian Navy.Â* It's operation has been subcontracted to Raytheon Australia. I spent a total of four years at two different transmitter sites with VLF equipment.Â* The one in Ponce, Puerto Rico and the one in Annapolis have since been decommissioned. Found this pic, taken from the top of the 1200' tower at the Navy Transmitter Site, Puerto Rico: http://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/pr/Aguada-Tower.jpg |
FAA does it again
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 02:14:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: The control tower stairs were. Maybe a 60degree angle. Steep. In the building code there is a certain point in the rise and run of steps when they become a "ladder". Most attic steps fall into that category. It becomes important in egress routes among other things. That becomes troublesome when people make an attic a "loft". |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:35:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/13/2017 9:13 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:39:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. I thought they still had some VLF stuff. I remember they were protesting in Alaska because there was some kind of array up there (HAARP?). This array was supposed to be capable of talking to a sub under the polar ice. They said it was screwing up the Caribou and Polar Bears, maybe even altering human DNA or some other horrible thing. There were signs hanging around everywhere once you got out of Anchorage. There are several Navy VLF transmitters still in operation according to Wiki There's one in Cutler, Maine, another in Washington state, one in Australia and another in Hawaii. The one in Australia is no longer operated by the US or Australian Navy. It's operation has been subcontracted to Raytheon Australia. I spent a total of four years at two different transmitter sites with VLF equipment. The one in Ponce, Puerto Rico and the one in Annapolis have since been decommissioned. They shut down the one in Alaska too. That was far more than a tall tower tho. This was acres of antenna. |
FAA does it again
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:01:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Found this pic, taken from the top of the 1200' tower at the Navy Transmitter Site, Puerto Rico: http://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/pr/Aguada-Tower.jpg cool |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:39:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/13/2017 3:10 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 19:47:01 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 1:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 11:06 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/13/17 11:01 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection.* :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage.* Easier and safer than a ladder. Pretty cool. Now if they could only come out with an inexpensive drone powerful enough to lift some of the people here* .... including me.* Don't like ladders. It may be too late for those of us who didn't develop it when we were young but ladders are an acquired skill. I really got over my problems with them when I put on the 2 story addition in Maryland. The peak where I was hanging aluminum siding was about 25 feet up That was 40 years ago tho. I carried 9 square of shingles up a ladder too. (27 bundles) but it was only up one story on the ladder off the deck in the rear and another story up the steps. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1977%20house.jpg When I was young ladders didn't bother me at all, nor did standing near the edge of a high roof top. I didn't really notice a "problem" until much later in life and the first time was scary.* I didn't expect any problem but when it hit, it was hold on, close my eyes and wait until it passed. Was just remembering one of my last adventures in the Navy. It was during my last year and I wanted to climb one of the 800 ft towers that surrounded and supported a 1200 ft ELF transmitter antenna. I got permission to climb it and did so. Made it to the top and replaced the red beacon light while I was there. The decent was much, much more tiring than the climb up. Going up the ladders, you are using leg muscles mostly but coming down you are using your arms much more. By the time I got to the bottom I was shaking from muscle fatigue. Learned some respect for the guys that do that on a regular basis. Of course, I was about 29 years old then. Couldn't even think about it now. Sort of like the steep stairs to the Control tower at Travis AFB. That was a tiring climb. Before getting drafted I built and worked on these surveying towers for the Coast & Geodetic Survey. Wouldn't even consider it now. http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...QS5qcGc=/?ref= Here's a pic of the 1200' VLF transmitter antenna (center) and the five surrounding, 800' support antennas before most were removed in 1999. I climbed one of the 800' ones. The configuration of the antennas formed a inductive and capacitive load for the million watt VLF transmitter. It's all gone now except I understand that three of the smaller towers remain for historical purposes. It's located on Greenbury Point, in Anne Arundel County. http://www.virhistory.com/navy/commsta/anna/annapolis-ant-1994.jpg NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. === We see those towers when we go through the Chesapeake. Here's an article about a guy who tried to climb one of them. http://www.capitalgazette.com/cg2-arc-a5ffb380-c952-5fc0-b111-309a029f4d2f-20130227-story.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 02:14:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: The control tower stairs were. Maybe a 60degree angle. Steep. In the building code there is a certain point in the rise and run of steps when they become a "ladder". Most attic steps fall into that category. It becomes important in egress routes among other things. That becomes troublesome when people make an attic a "loft". They have since replaced the tower. The tower when I was there was probably built before building codes. Possibly early 30’s. |
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On 12/13/2017 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 21:35:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/13/2017 9:13 PM, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:39:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: NSS Annapolis started as a transmitter site in 1918 using an 500 kilowatt arc transmitter. Over the years it was continuously upgraded for fleet HF and LF communications. The Very Low Frequency (VLF) transmitter and antennas were constructed during the Cold War for communicating with our submarine fleet. Satellite communications made it obsolete and no longer needed. I thought they still had some VLF stuff. I remember they were protesting in Alaska because there was some kind of array up there (HAARP?). This array was supposed to be capable of talking to a sub under the polar ice. They said it was screwing up the Caribou and Polar Bears, maybe even altering human DNA or some other horrible thing. There were signs hanging around everywhere once you got out of Anchorage. There are several Navy VLF transmitters still in operation according to Wiki There's one in Cutler, Maine, another in Washington state, one in Australia and another in Hawaii. The one in Australia is no longer operated by the US or Australian Navy. It's operation has been subcontracted to Raytheon Australia. I spent a total of four years at two different transmitter sites with VLF equipment. The one in Ponce, Puerto Rico and the one in Annapolis have since been decommissioned. They shut down the one in Alaska too. That was far more than a tall tower tho. This was acres of antenna. Most of those sites also had Low Frequency and High Frequency transmitters and the necessary antennas for them. The one in Puerto Rico had many in addition to the VLF transmitter. Same with the one in Annapolis, MD. I forget exactly how many but I remember at least 15 to 20 HF transmitters and maybe about 10 Low Freq transmitters. More transmitters than antennas but there was a big board where you could patch a particular transmitter to a particular antenna. |
FAA does it again
On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 9:02:38 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 15:11:56 -0500, John H wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:32:18 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:01:35 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 10:54:52 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:36:13 -0500, John H wrote: http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/faa-uas-faq.aspx "On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed legislation that will reverse the earlier court ruling in the John Taylor case and restore the FAA’s UAS registration requirement, including for AMA members. AMA believes that registration makes sense at some level, but has pushed for a more reasonable threshold. While we address these issues, members will be legally required to comply with the FAA registration requirement." Glad I wasn't one of the those who wrote FAA for a refund and cancellation of my number. But, I have to admit I've not been doing much flying lately anyway! I got my number for free during the initial offering but I don't have a drone yet. I am still not sure why I want one.. I justified mine by doing my own roof inspection. :) Actually, a co-worker had some roof damage from a storm, and when the roofing company came out to quote the work, they used a drone to inspect the damage. Easier and safer than a ladder. I am not afraid of ladders but I can get up on my roof without one. The edge is only about 7-8' off the ground. I might play with a drone out in the mangroves but if it went down it is probably gone forever. You can get them with battery warnings and a 'come home' switch. What happens if an Osprey thinks it is trying to invade his territory? ;-) I was flying mine around the neighborhood one day and when it came back in sight there were 3-4 hawks chasing it. I had unknowingly flown into their hunting path and they weren't happy. I brought it in and landed quickly. If one of them attacked I doubt the stability control on the drone could recover before it crashed. |
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