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From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 2:45:07 PM UTC-6, John H wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:28:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:48 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:09:20 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: That's "Tribune", oh great "engrish" major. "In 2016, the Tribune endorsed the Libertarian Party candidate, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson for president, over Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton." Surely they are "loony", having endorsed a Libertarian. Can't believe a word they print. Strange bedfellows... :) Perhaps such thoughts are true in your little world, JackOff. Again an ad hominem attack and ignoring the facts. The Trib did endorse Gary. I guess they must be "looney" yet you still cite them. You boys are going downhill as quickly as Trump. I can differentiate between a news story in a legitimate newspaper and the positions of its editorial writers or board. I suppose in your world of uneducated ignorance, they are one and the same. Is the NYTimes not legitimate now? It would have been if it had announced that Hillary had won the presidency... |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:31:40 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 11/26/17 1:53 PM, wrote: Nice try but Trump has nothing to do with the gun violence in Chicago or anywhere else. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Never said he did, but Grifter Trump obviously favors the restriction of civil liberties. Stop and frisk without a specific reason should be unlawful. Perhaps you should read Terry v Ohio. The proof is in the pudding. Look at haw many illegal weapons were found in New York and more importantly how many were not carried in the first place. I know you will say it is something like only 0.1 percent of the stops yielded a weapon but if only 0.1 percent of those people who were disarmed, shot someone that day, it is still 10 shootings (based on a population of 10 million) that didn't happen. I thought you were all about ignoring the constitution in gun law if we just saved one life. |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 11:40:19 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 9:43:13 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 8:32 AM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:47:29 AM UTC-6, John H wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html States with the most guns recovered in Chicago Illinois 22,051 Indiana 7,747 Mississippi 4,296 Wisconsin 1,647 Kentucky 1,226 Ohio 1,121 Tennessee 1,090 Alabama 1,070 Arkansas 944 Texas 937 Where the hell's Virginia? The map does show a few, mostly from the Norfolk area, but nothing like Herr Krause indicates. Let's see, that's from the NYTimes, one of the Krause favorites, so can't be biased. Here's a discussion of the gun control laws in Chicago and just how well it 'controls guns'. Sounds like Chuck's Gun Shop is the 'real' gunshow loophole! http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us...tal-shots.html The Virginia trunk dealers are presently out of stock. Tell us, Mr. Rocket Scientist, why would someone who lives in Illinois be interested in buying a firearm in Virginia when next-door Indiana has such lax firearms regulations? Not that Virginia has any sort of serious firearms regulations. When I sold my SIG to a Virginia resident, I arranged for the transfer to be done by an FFL there, but I called the Virginia State Police first and was told they didn't care how I did the transfer. But both the buyer of my SIG and I wanted to do a "kosher" transaction, so we split the $20 FFL fee. Tell us, Mr. Brainiac. Why would a Maryland resident like you be interested in the gun laws and fatalities in Chicago/Cook county Il. ? At least enough to throw your wooden nickels worth of thoughts on this thread... I was not interested enough to drill down on that list but how many guns came from Maryland? |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 15:28:33 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:28:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:48 PM, wrote: Again an ad hominem attack and ignoring the facts. The Trib did endorse Gary. I guess they must be "looney" yet you still cite them. You boys are going downhill as quickly as Trump. I can differentiate between a news story in a legitimate newspaper and the positions of its editorial writers or board. I suppose in your world of uneducated ignorance, they are one and the same. You really need to make up your mind. Yesterday you were criticizing a paper because you did not like the editorial board and you thought they were slanting the news.. Now you say that slant does not exist. Is it possible you only think it happens when you disagree with them? I don’t consider the Moonie paper any more than the propoganda arm of the Unification church. Then what does that say about the Amazon paper or the Comcast TV networks (everything with an "NBC" in it) with the biggest DNC "bundler". AKA money man, in the US being the VP and political director? The money David Cohen brings them makes Soros look like Fred Sanford. |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 15:46:52 -0500, John H
wrote: What you want to bet Harry does not provide a pertinent answer to this question. This does not even need context ... NO "Woosh" is a fart from a brain without a sphincter. No conscious or critical thought, just a knee jerk response. |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:31:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: Is the NYTimes not legitimate now? It would have been if it had announced that Hillary had won the presidency... "Joy to the world" Then they would have made excuses for the recession (GOP congress and such), more russian aggression (somehow Ryan's fault) and a worsening of the Syria war (all Bush's fault). Fortunately none of them happened. I guess Jesus did it because Trump hasn't done anything ... or so I hear. ;-) |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On 11/26/17 6:49 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:31:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:53 PM, wrote: Nice try but Trump has nothing to do with the gun violence in Chicago or anywhere else. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Never said he did, but Grifter Trump obviously favors the restriction of civil liberties. Stop and frisk without a specific reason should be unlawful. Perhaps you should read Terry v Ohio. The proof is in the pudding. Look at haw many illegal weapons were found in New York and more importantly how many were not carried in the first place. I know you will say it is something like only 0.1 percent of the stops yielded a weapon but if only 0.1 percent of those people who were disarmed, shot someone that day, it is still 10 shootings (based on a population of 10 million) that didn't happen. I thought you were all about ignoring the constitution in gun law if we just saved one life. Making up stuff again? I'm in favor of strict gun laws, properly enforced. I'm not in favor of the 2nd amendment as it is presently construed, but there is nothing I can do about it. |
From where come Chicago's Guns?
On 11/26/17 7:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:32:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/26/17 1:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City - tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders accountable for their crime statistics. The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city. --- I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws. We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera. So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and then lock them up for life? How is that working in Baltimore? No, my solution is to build more publicly funded and operated prisons if they are necessary. So the idea of rehabilitating minor criminals before they become major criminals is lost on you. You better build a lot of those prisons. Your synapses are misfiring again. Never said what you claimed. What I did say is that I am not in favor of private, for-profit prisons. You're quite the trip, constantly mis-stating what I post or think. |
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