From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 12:09:23 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/26/17 11:29 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 8:55:24 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/26/17 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:47:29 AM UTC-6, John H wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html

States with the most guns
recovered in Chicago

Illinois 22,051
Indiana 7,747
Mississippi 4,296
Wisconsin 1,647
Kentucky 1,226
Ohio 1,121
Tennessee 1,090
Alabama 1,070
Arkansas 944
Texas 937

Where the hell's Virginia? The map does show a few, mostly from the Norfolk area, but nothing like
Herr Krause indicates.

Let's see, that's from the NYTimes, one of the Krause favorites, so can't be biased.

Here's a discussion of the gun control laws in Chicago and just how well it 'controls guns'. Sounds
like Chuck's Gun Shop is the 'real' gunshow loophole!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us...tal-shots.html

The Virginia trunk dealers are presently out of stock.


Between the two of you, your IQ's might add up to moron.

Cook County, Illinois, where Chicago is located, has restrictive laws on
the sale of firearms. There are no gun stores in Chicago, and Chicago,
thanks to pressure by the NRA, no longer has restrictive gun laws.
Anyone who wants to legally purchase a gun and who lives in Chicago can
buy one just about anywhere else in Illinois and, of course, in
neighboring Indiana.

According to the Chicago Tribue...

That's "Tribune", oh great "engrish" major.

"In 2016, the Tribune endorsed the Libertarian Party candidate, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson for president, over Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton."

Surely they are "loony", having endorsed a Libertarian. Can't believe a word they print.

Strange bedfellows... :)



Perhaps such thoughts are true in your little world, JackOff.

The truth stings, eh? :)

From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:10:46 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:43:09 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:47:29 AM UTC-6, John H wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html

States with the most guns
recovered in Chicago

Illinois 22,051
Indiana 7,747
Mississippi 4,296
Wisconsin 1,647
Kentucky 1,226
Ohio 1,121
Tennessee 1,090
Alabama 1,070
Arkansas 944
Texas 937

Where the hell's Virginia? The map does show a few, mostly from the Norfolk area, but nothing like
Herr Krause indicates.

Let's see, that's from the NYTimes, one of the Krause favorites, so can't be biased.

Here's a discussion of the gun control laws in Chicago and just how well it 'controls guns'. Sounds
like Chuck's Gun Shop is the 'real' gunshow loophole!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us...tal-shots.html

The Virginia trunk dealers are presently out of stock.



Tell us, Mr. Rocket Scientist, why would someone who lives in Illinois
be interested in buying a firearm in Virginia when next-door Indiana has
such lax firearms regulations? Not that Virginia has any sort of serious
firearms regulations. When I sold my SIG to a Virginia resident, I
arranged for the transfer to be done by an FFL there, but I called the
Virginia State Police first and was told they didn't care how I did the
transfer. But both the buyer of my SIG and I wanted to do a "kosher"
transaction, so we split the $20 FFL fee.

You also cleverly ignore the fact that a Chicago (or any out of state)
resident buying a handgun in Indiana is already a violation of federal
law. Both the buyer and the seller could do federal prison time.
Carrying that gun back across state lines is also a federal law
violation along with whatever Illinois and Chicago laws they are
breaking.
Do you really thing that "just one more law" is going to make any
difference at all?
I know you just want to do something so you can say you hope that will
make it better.
Why not just pray? The effect will be the same and it only seems that
way to a true believer.



Ahhh...the Fretwell solution to every serious problem...do nothing and
hope it works.

As opposed to the Krause/democrat theory that just one more useless
law will make the difference.
You still ignored the reality. A Chicago resident buying a pistol in
Indiana is already illegal. Who is going to try to get a background
check on an already illegal transaction. Double down on that if the
gun was stolen in the first place.

From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 13:16:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:10:46 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:43:09 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:47:29 AM UTC-6, John H wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html

States with the most guns
recovered in Chicago

Illinois 22,051
Indiana 7,747
Mississippi 4,296
Wisconsin 1,647
Kentucky 1,226
Ohio 1,121
Tennessee 1,090
Alabama 1,070
Arkansas 944
Texas 937

Where the hell's Virginia? The map does show a few, mostly from the Norfolk area, but nothing like
Herr Krause indicates.

Let's see, that's from the NYTimes, one of the Krause favorites, so can't be biased.

Here's a discussion of the gun control laws in Chicago and just how well it 'controls guns'. Sounds
like Chuck's Gun Shop is the 'real' gunshow loophole!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us...tal-shots.html

The Virginia trunk dealers are presently out of stock.



Tell us, Mr. Rocket Scientist, why would someone who lives in Illinois
be interested in buying a firearm in Virginia when next-door Indiana has
such lax firearms regulations? Not that Virginia has any sort of serious
firearms regulations. When I sold my SIG to a Virginia resident, I
arranged for the transfer to be done by an FFL there, but I called the
Virginia State Police first and was told they didn't care how I did the
transfer. But both the buyer of my SIG and I wanted to do a "kosher"
transaction, so we split the $20 FFL fee.

You also cleverly ignore the fact that a Chicago (or any out of state)
resident buying a handgun in Indiana is already a violation of federal
law. Both the buyer and the seller could do federal prison time.
Carrying that gun back across state lines is also a federal law
violation along with whatever Illinois and Chicago laws they are
breaking.
Do you really thing that "just one more law" is going to make any
difference at all?
I know you just want to do something so you can say you hope that will
make it better.
Why not just pray? The effect will be the same and it only seems that
way to a true believer.



Ahhh...the Fretwell solution to every serious problem...do nothing and
hope it works.


===

You (of course) missed the important message: new laws are not the
answer.

The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City -
tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level
offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders
accountable for their crime statistics.

The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally
transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city.

---

I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws.
We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I
don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop
and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be
that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera.


===

Then stop whining and accept the consequences.



That's absurd. Despite the efforts of Grifter Trump, this isn't Germany
of the 1930s and 1940s.

===

Nice try but Trump has nothing to do with the gun violence in Chicago
or anywhere else.

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From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City -
tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level
offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders
accountable for their crime statistics.

The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally
transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city.

---

I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws.
We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I
don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop
and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be
that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera.

So your solution for prison overcrowding is to let those low level
criminals continue down the path of crime until they kill someone and
then lock them up for life?
How is that working in Baltimore?

From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:49:58 -0500, John H
wrote:

Those damn facts again.

Harry ignores facts and goes for the personal insult every time.

From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 13:16:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


That's absurd. Despite the efforts of Grifter Trump, this isn't Germany
of the 1930s and 1940s.

So now Bloomberg is a nazi? I will remember that the next time I see
you pimping one of his anti gun ads.

(the stop and frisk controversy came to a head when he was mayor and
he defended as being an effective way to get guns off the street)

That makes you Leni Riefenstahl doesn't it?

From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 13:16:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:10:46 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:43:09 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:47:29 AM UTC-6, John H wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html

States with the most guns
recovered in Chicago

Illinois 22,051
Indiana 7,747
Mississippi 4,296
Wisconsin 1,647
Kentucky 1,226
Ohio 1,121
Tennessee 1,090
Alabama 1,070
Arkansas 944
Texas 937

Where the hell's Virginia? The map does show a few, mostly from
the Norfolk area, but nothing like
Herr Krause indicates.

Let's see, that's from the NYTimes, one of the Krause favorites,
so can't be biased.

Here's a discussion of the gun control laws in Chicago and just how well it
'controls guns'. Sounds
like Chuck's Gun Shop is the 'real' gunshow loophole!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us...tal-shots.html

The Virginia trunk dealers are presently out of stock.



Tell us, Mr. Rocket Scientist, why would someone who lives in Illinois
be interested in buying a firearm in Virginia when next-door Indiana has
such lax firearms regulations? Not that Virginia has any sort of serious
firearms regulations. When I sold my SIG to a Virginia resident, I
arranged for the transfer to be done by an FFL there, but I called the
Virginia State Police first and was told they didn't care how I did the
transfer. But both the buyer of my SIG and I wanted to do a "kosher"
transaction, so we split the $20 FFL fee.

You also cleverly ignore the fact that a Chicago (or any out of state)
resident buying a handgun in Indiana is already a violation of federal
law. Both the buyer and the seller could do federal prison time.
Carrying that gun back across state lines is also a federal law
violation along with whatever Illinois and Chicago laws they are
breaking.
Do you really thing that "just one more law" is going to make any
difference at all?
I know you just want to do something so you can say you hope that will
make it better.
Why not just pray? The effect will be the same and it only seems that
way to a true believer.



Ahhh...the Fretwell solution to every serious problem...do nothing and
hope it works.


===

You (of course) missed the important message: new laws are not the
answer.

The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City -
tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level
offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders
accountable for their crime statistics.

The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally
transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city.

---

I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws.
We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I
don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop
and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be
that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera.


===

Then stop whining and accept the consequences.



That's absurd. Despite the efforts of Grifter Trump, this isn't Germany
of the 1930s and 1940s.

===

Nice try but Trump has nothing to do with the gun violence in Chicago
or anywhere else.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com



Whoosh.

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From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On 11/26/17 1:48 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:09:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

That's "Tribune", oh great "engrish" major.

"In 2016, the Tribune endorsed the Libertarian Party candidate, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson for president, over Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton."

Surely they are "loony", having endorsed a Libertarian. Can't believe a word they print.

Strange bedfellows... :)



Perhaps such thoughts are true in your little world, JackOff.

Again an ad hominem attack and ignoring the facts.
The Trib did endorse Gary. I guess they must be "looney" yet you still
cite them.


You boys are going downhill as quickly as Trump. I can differentiate
between a news story in a legitimate newspaper and the positions of its
editorial writers or board. I suppose in your world of uneducated
ignorance, they are one and the same.

From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 14:14:34 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 13:16:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

That's absurd. Despite the efforts of Grifter Trump, this isn't Germany
of the 1930s and 1940s.

===

Nice try but Trump has nothing to do with the gun violence in Chicago
or anywhere else.

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Whoosh.

Again old "we don't need no stinking facts" Harry avoids the truth and
resorts to a brain fart. His brain has no sphincter so it just a
whoosh.

From where come Chicago's Guns?
 

On 11/26/17 1:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 13:16:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:48:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 12:10:46 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 10:43:09 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:47:29 AM UTC-6, John H wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html

States with the most guns
recovered in Chicago

Illinois 22,051
Indiana 7,747
Mississippi 4,296
Wisconsin 1,647
Kentucky 1,226
Ohio 1,121
Tennessee 1,090
Alabama 1,070
Arkansas 944
Texas 937

Where the hell's Virginia? The map does show a few, mostly from the Norfolk area, but nothing like
Herr Krause indicates.

Let's see, that's from the NYTimes, one of the Krause favorites, so can't be biased.

Here's a discussion of the gun control laws in Chicago and just how well it 'controls guns'. Sounds
like Chuck's Gun Shop is the 'real' gunshow loophole!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us...tal-shots.html

The Virginia trunk dealers are presently out of stock.



Tell us, Mr. Rocket Scientist, why would someone who lives in Illinois
be interested in buying a firearm in Virginia when next-door Indiana has
such lax firearms regulations? Not that Virginia has any sort of serious
firearms regulations. When I sold my SIG to a Virginia resident, I
arranged for the transfer to be done by an FFL there, but I called the
Virginia State Police first and was told they didn't care how I did the
transfer. But both the buyer of my SIG and I wanted to do a "kosher"
transaction, so we split the $20 FFL fee.

You also cleverly ignore the fact that a Chicago (or any out of state)
resident buying a handgun in Indiana is already a violation of federal
law. Both the buyer and the seller could do federal prison time.
Carrying that gun back across state lines is also a federal law
violation along with whatever Illinois and Chicago laws they are
breaking.
Do you really thing that "just one more law" is going to make any
difference at all?
I know you just want to do something so you can say you hope that will
make it better.
Why not just pray? The effect will be the same and it only seems that
way to a true believer.



Ahhh...the Fretwell solution to every serious problem...do nothing and
hope it works.


===

You (of course) missed the important message: new laws are not the
answer.

The answer that works has already been demonstrated in New York City -
tough policing of existing laws; arrest and jail time for low level
offenders; stop and frisk policies; holding precinct commanders
accountable for their crime statistics.

The ensuing drop in crime of all types was unprecedented, and totally
transformed NYC's reputation as an unsafe city.

---

I'm in favor of tough enforcement of all gun and violent crime laws.
We don't have enough jails to lock up many more low level offenders. I
don't favor building any more for-profit private jails. I oppose stop
and frisk policies without a specific reason, and that reason cannot be
that an individual is black, latino, muslim, et cetera.


===

Then stop whining and accept the consequences.



That's absurd. Despite the efforts of Grifter Trump, this isn't Germany
of the 1930s and 1940s.

===

Nice try but Trump has nothing to do with the gun violence in Chicago
or anywhere else.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Never said he did, but Grifter Trump obviously favors the restriction of
civil liberties. Stop and frisk without a specific reason should be
unlawful.