On 11/25/17 10:52 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:32:46 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 12:54 AM, wrote:

Further, you sort of put the cover on that pot when you posited several
times here that the black slaves would have been better off without
being emancipated for a few more generations. Unlike you, I don't expect
historical figures to be perfect in every way or to meet some set of
standards that you find acceptable.

That is not what I said at all. I said economic sanctions may have
been able to stop slavery without killing 3% of the population,
destroying the economy and creating a social divide born of war
that still exists today.
Do you really think the life a black man in Mississippi improved all
that much in "a few more generations"? Hell there are people who say
it is still not all that great.
It is hard to integrate when you are walking over a quarter of a
million dead relatives of the people you want to accept you.


I don't accept your rationalizations for the continuance of slavery.

No, you are a democrat, war is always the answer for you.


Oh, please. Every time you post on this subject, your posts get a little
more bizarre. The cause of the Civil War was slavery and its possible
expansion to the western territories, and preservation of the union. The
southern slave states seceded after Lincoln, a Republican, was elected.
Your southern slave-owning buddies fired the first shots.

I don't know what the answer is for you libertarians, but as long as you
keep nominating the sort of really strange candidates you do, you're not
going to elect a POTUS. "What's an Aleppo, anyway?"

On 11/25/17 10:54 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.


Bobby thought Hoover was a psycho.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 10:54:44 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.


===

Are you talking about Hoffa?

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On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:05:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 10:52 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:32:46 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 12:54 AM, wrote:

Further, you sort of put the cover on that pot when you posited several
times here that the black slaves would have been better off without
being emancipated for a few more generations. Unlike you, I don't expect
historical figures to be perfect in every way or to meet some set of
standards that you find acceptable.

That is not what I said at all. I said economic sanctions may have
been able to stop slavery without killing 3% of the population,
destroying the economy and creating a social divide born of war
that still exists today.
Do you really think the life a black man in Mississippi improved all
that much in "a few more generations"? Hell there are people who say
it is still not all that great.
It is hard to integrate when you are walking over a quarter of a
million dead relatives of the people you want to accept you.


I don't accept your rationalizations for the continuance of slavery.

No, you are a democrat, war is always the answer for you.


Oh, please. Every time you post on this subject, your posts get a little
more bizarre. The cause of the Civil War was slavery and its possible
expansion to the western territories, and preservation of the union. The
southern slave states seceded after Lincoln, a Republican, was elected.
Your southern slave-owning buddies fired the first shots.


The basis of slavery was based on an economic advantage and if the
market had removed that economic advantage, slavery would have
collapsed of it's own weight. The only question is whether your
northern ancestors and european heroes would have actually boycotted
slave produced cotton and other products. They were profiting from the
slaves too.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:09:01 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 10:54 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.


Bobby thought Hoover was a psycho.

I suppose he told you that?
The fact still remains that Bobby used Hoover to violate the rights of
people who crossed the Kennedys with his full consent and knowledge.
You also seem to give Teddy a pass for depraved indifference homicide.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:26:55 -0500,
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 10:54:44 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.


===

Are you talking about Hoffa?

Yes ... and a lot of other collateral damage in that crusade.
Then there is MLK and the others who were also wiretapped without
warrants.

On 11/25/17 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:09:01 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 10:54 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.


Bobby thought Hoover was a psycho.

I suppose he told you that?
The fact still remains that Bobby used Hoover to violate the rights of
people who crossed the Kennedys with his full consent and knowledge.
You also seem to give Teddy a pass for depraved indifference homicide.


It's on tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxFvH7srgTA

Hoover was much like Trump...people overcomplimented him to gain his
favor and so he would leave them alone.

Teddy had a lot of anguish about that accident. I knew one of Teddy's
closest friends for more than three decades, and in Teddy's last years,
the Senator used to walk his dog to a building where I had an office and
Teddy's friend did, too. Sometimes I'd end up dog-sitting for an hour
while the two of them visited. Teddy's friend discussed "what might have
been" with me, and the political aftermath of that death came up every
time. I got to greet Kennedy a few times, myself. He was a great U.S.
Senator, one of the greatest in our history, but a troubled man. The
loss of three brothers didn't help.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:42:34 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/25/17 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:09:01 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 10:54 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.


Bobby thought Hoover was a psycho.

I suppose he told you that?
The fact still remains that Bobby used Hoover to violate the rights of
people who crossed the Kennedys with his full consent and knowledge.
You also seem to give Teddy a pass for depraved indifference homicide.


It's on tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxFvH7srgTA

Hoover was much like Trump...people overcomplimented him to gain his
favor and so he would leave them alone.

Teddy had a lot of anguish about that accident. I knew one of Teddy's
closest friends for more than three decades, and in Teddy's last years,
the Senator used to walk his dog to a building where I had an office and
Teddy's friend did, too. Sometimes I'd end up dog-sitting for an hour
while the two of them visited. Teddy's friend discussed "what might have
been" with me, and the political aftermath of that death came up every
time. I got to greet Kennedy a few times, myself. He was a great U.S.
Senator, one of the greatest in our history, but a troubled man. The
loss of three brothers didn't help.

Don White believes all that.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:42:34 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:09:01 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 10:54 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.


Bobby thought Hoover was a psycho.

I suppose he told you that?
The fact still remains that Bobby used Hoover to violate the rights of
people who crossed the Kennedys with his full consent and knowledge.
You also seem to give Teddy a pass for depraved indifference homicide.


It's on tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxFvH7srgTA

Hoover was much like Trump...people overcomplimented him to gain his
favor and so he would leave them alone.

But the Kennedys had no problem sending that "psycho" to spy on
people, sometimes innocent people
The wiretap on our home phone was troubling on a number of
constitutional grounds. First there was no warrant and secondly it was
an attempt to circumvent lawyer client privilege because mother's only
connection to the Hoffa case was that she managed the administrative
people on the legal team.
Everyone on that legal team had their home phones tapped, at the order
of Robert ****ing Kennedy.
It so outraged someone in the bureau that they leaked the transcripts
to Ed Bennett Williams and everyone got a copy of the transcript of
their particular phone

Teddy had a lot of anguish about that accident. I knew one of Teddy's
closest friends for more than three decades, and in Teddy's last years,
the Senator used to walk his dog to a building where I had an office and
Teddy's friend did, too. Sometimes I'd end up dog-sitting for an hour
while the two of them visited. Teddy's friend discussed "what might have
been" with me, and the political aftermath of that death came up every
time. I got to greet Kennedy a few times, myself. He was a great U.S.
Senator, one of the greatest in our history, but a troubled man. The
loss of three brothers didn't help.

Teddy probably felt bad that this endangered his career but when
minutes counted, he did not give a ****. He went home and did not tell
anyone there was a girl drowning under that bridge until the next day.
(probably after consulting with the family attorney and making up the
best story possible) He walked past dozens of houses and every one of
them had a phone. That is depraved indifference to human life. AKA
murder
I bet Casey Anthony had anguish too when she was caught. Anguish is
bull**** when you murdered someone.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:07:56 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:42:34 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

It's on tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxFvH7srgTA

Hoover was much like Trump...people overcomplimented him to gain his
favor and so he would leave them alone.

Don White believes all that.

I believe everyone thought Hoover was a psycho but that did not stop
them from using him like a rabid pit bull against their enemies.
He was the president's hit man. Bear in mind G Gordon Liddy learned
everything he knew about breaking and entering, placing illegal taps
and spying on people in the FBI.