On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:52:47 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?


For a myriad of reasons, I just don't buy into your view of the world,
your right-wing politics, your uninformed opinions on psychology and
sociology, et cetera. I'm not your mindless buddy, John Herring.
Further, you sort of put the cover on that pot when you posited several
times here that the black slaves would have been better off without
being emancipated for a few more generations. Unlike you, I don't expect
historical figures to be perfect in every way or to meet some set of
standards that you find acceptable.

Hell, man, you provide cover to Donald Trump, unquestionably the worst
POTUS in the history of the nation, and we've had some serious losers.


Again, what part is not true?

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:52:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?


For a myriad of reasons, I just don't buy into your view of the world,
your right-wing politics, your uninformed opinions on psychology and
sociology, et cetera.

So you can't debate my facts so you attack me.

..
Further, you sort of put the cover on that pot when you posited several
times here that the black slaves would have been better off without
being emancipated for a few more generations. Unlike you, I don't expect
historical figures to be perfect in every way or to meet some set of
standards that you find acceptable.

That is not what I said at all. I said economic sanctions may have
been able to stop slavery without killing 3% of the population,
destroying the economy and creating a social divide born of war
that still exists today.
Do you really think the life a black man in Mississippi improved all
that much in "a few more generations"? Hell there are people who say
it is still not all that great.
It is hard to integrate when you are walking over a quarter of a
million dead relatives of the people you want to accept you.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:05:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:34:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:26:06 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:47:40 -0500, wrote:

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.

===

I think murder is too strong a word for Teddy's transgression. You or
I in the same circumstances would probably have been charged with
felony Vehicular Manslaughter.

Felony DUI manslaughter can get you 20+ years (about the same as 2d
degree murder).

===

The primary difference is intent.

"Depraved Indifference" = 2d degree murder
To be drunk and driving around is bad enough but to go off and leave a
girl drowning in a car and not even call anyone until the next day is
depraved indifference to human life.
I suppose if I was a conspiracy guy like Harry, I might even say there
is a chance she was dead when he pushed the car off the bridge. Dead
girls tell no tales.

===

I very much doubt that it was intentional but I do think he likely
would have been indicted for something in any other state.

Nobody has to say he intentionally killed that girl. This is about a
"depraved indifference". He just didn't give a ****

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 18:44:29 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

You are posting a tale that may have originated by the defunct scandal
site Gawker and promoted by the fake news site Fox? Pathetic.

All you have without reliable verification is that a retired former
president may have accepted free flights on a private plane.

Yeah and he may have just been discussing the skill of the guys in the
Cohiba factory with Monica when he sniffed that cigar..

On 11/24/2017 6:44 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:


Just realized that you started this thread with the subject,

"Take the idiot out".


It's my pleasure to comply.

PLONK.

On 11/25/17 12:54 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 15:52:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?


For a myriad of reasons, I just don't buy into your view of the world,
your right-wing politics, your uninformed opinions on psychology and
sociology, et cetera.

So you can't debate my facts so you attack me.

.
Further, you sort of put the cover on that pot when you posited several
times here that the black slaves would have been better off without
being emancipated for a few more generations. Unlike you, I don't expect
historical figures to be perfect in every way or to meet some set of
standards that you find acceptable.

That is not what I said at all. I said economic sanctions may have
been able to stop slavery without killing 3% of the population,
destroying the economy and creating a social divide born of war
that still exists today.
Do you really think the life a black man in Mississippi improved all
that much in "a few more generations"? Hell there are people who say
it is still not all that great.
It is hard to integrate when you are walking over a quarter of a
million dead relatives of the people you want to accept you.


I don't accept your rationalizations for the continuance of slavery.

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2017 6:44 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:


Just realized that you started this thread with the subject,

"Take the idiot out".


It's my pleasure to comply.

PLONK.



You broke my heart, Fredo. 😱😀

--
Posted with my iPhone 8+.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:32:46 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/25/17 12:54 AM, wrote:

Further, you sort of put the cover on that pot when you posited several
times here that the black slaves would have been better off without
being emancipated for a few more generations. Unlike you, I don't expect
historical figures to be perfect in every way or to meet some set of
standards that you find acceptable.

That is not what I said at all. I said economic sanctions may have
been able to stop slavery without killing 3% of the population,
destroying the economy and creating a social divide born of war
that still exists today.
Do you really think the life a black man in Mississippi improved all
that much in "a few more generations"? Hell there are people who say
it is still not all that great.
It is hard to integrate when you are walking over a quarter of a
million dead relatives of the people you want to accept you.


I don't accept your rationalizations for the continuance of slavery.

No, you are a democrat, war is always the answer for you.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 07:53:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 2:32 PM, wrote:
On 24 Nov 2017 18:05:13 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:56:06 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/24/17 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:32:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I appreciate that guys like you appreciate ignorant, incompetent,
racist, sexist, pedophiles for POTUS. I don't.

We lived through Bill Clinton and the murdering, raping Kennedys.


Neither Clinton nor Jack, Bobby, or Teddy Kennedy were ignorant,
incompetent, racist, sexist pedophiles.

Jack and Bobby were arrogant, incompetent war mongers who damned near
caused WWIII over bull**** and Teddy murdered a girl, was implicated
in a rape and lied about it.
They also had a total disregard of the constitution with their various
crusades. JFK should have been impeached and Bobby should have gone to
jail, taking J.E. Hoover with him.


Heheheheh. You are a trip.

Again, what part is not true?



I don't accept your political underpinnings and I think your opinions of
the Kennedy brothers are nonsense and not worthy of debate. I do agree
it was a huge mistake to tolerate Hoover but that was a mistake shared
by all.

You are in denial if you do not believe RFK exploited Hoover to
advance his objectives and violate the rights of people he opposed.