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You Navy guys do this?
We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html |
You Navy guys do this?
On 11/22/2017 2:44 PM, John H wrote:
We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html We did the "gas chamber" in boot camp in 1968. Getting sprayed with pepper spray came years later and usually only for those ratings that stood regular shore patrol watches. The Navy still does the CS tear gas chamber but I don't remember having to stay in the room without a mask for as long as these guys did in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xARfES6o0oE |
You Navy guys do this?
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:24:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/22/2017 2:44 PM, John H wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html We did the "gas chamber" in boot camp in 1968. Getting sprayed with pepper spray came years later and usually only for those ratings that stood regular shore patrol watches. The Navy still does the CS tear gas chamber but I don't remember having to stay in the room without a mask for as long as these guys did in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xARfES6o0oE We had the two minutes or so, but instead of masking again, they ran us outside. |
You Navy guys do this?
John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:24:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/22/2017 2:44 PM, John H wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html We did the "gas chamber" in boot camp in 1968. Getting sprayed with pepper spray came years later and usually only for those ratings that stood regular shore patrol watches. The Navy still does the CS tear gas chamber but I don't remember having to stay in the room without a mask for as long as these guys did in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xARfES6o0oE We had the two minutes or so, but instead of masking again, they ran us outside. I remember a great picture of my brother from is basic training class. He is the focal point coming out of the tear gas chamber. Another point for the Air Force. We did not do any gas training. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:44:56 -0500, John H
wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html Nothing like that in the Coast Guard and the Norfolk cops did not have spray. They just beat the **** out of you. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 05:20:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/22/2017 6:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:44:56 -0500, John H wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html Nothing like that in the Coast Guard and the Norfolk cops did not have spray. They just beat the **** out of you. The Coast Guard now does pepper spray as part of side arm qualifications. My grandson recently went through it. One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 05:20:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/22/2017 6:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:44:56 -0500, John H wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html Nothing like that in the Coast Guard and the Norfolk cops did not have spray. They just beat the **** out of you. The Coast Guard now does pepper spray as part of side arm qualifications. My grandson recently went through it. I am really not surprised. They have changed from a search and rescue operation to a police force. I suppose that is really just a throw back to their roots. They were originally enforcing federal import tax laws and stopping smugglers in "Revenue Cutters". That is probably the service that changed missions the most in the US over the years. When I was there we were doing missions that the Navy should have been doing and that started in WWII, continuing up into the 70s. I had a shield on my sleeve but I was really in the Navy Reserve. The CG does not even have FTs now from what I can tell. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H
wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. |
You Navy guys do this?
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You Navy guys do this?
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 05:20:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/22/2017 6:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:44:56 -0500, John H wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html Nothing like that in the Coast Guard and the Norfolk cops did not have spray. They just beat the **** out of you. The Coast Guard now does pepper spray as part of side arm qualifications. My grandson recently went through it. I am really not surprised. They have changed from a search and rescue operation to a police force. I suppose that is really just a throw back to their roots. They were originally enforcing federal import tax laws and stopping smugglers in "Revenue Cutters". That is probably the service that changed missions the most in the US over the years. When I was there we were doing missions that the Navy should have been doing and that started in WWII, continuing up into the 70s. I had a shield on my sleeve but I was really in the Navy Reserve. The CG does not even have FTs now from what I can tell. What was an FT? |
You Navy guys do this?
On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? |
You Navy guys do this?
On 11/23/2017 2:21 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 05:20:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/22/2017 6:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:44:56 -0500, John H wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html Nothing like that in the Coast Guard and the Norfolk cops did not have spray. They just beat the **** out of you. The Coast Guard now does pepper spray as part of side arm qualifications. My grandson recently went through it. I am really not surprised. They have changed from a search and rescue operation to a police force. I suppose that is really just a throw back to their roots. They were originally enforcing federal import tax laws and stopping smugglers in "Revenue Cutters". That is probably the service that changed missions the most in the US over the years. When I was there we were doing missions that the Navy should have been doing and that started in WWII, continuing up into the 70s. I had a shield on my sleeve but I was really in the Navy Reserve. The CG does not even have FTs now from what I can tell. What was an FT? In the Navy it's the Fire control technician rating. Unlike what the name implies it has little to do with firefighting. It has everything to do with the maintenance and repair of the various weapons and gun controls on the ship. Now-a-days it's mostly computer related. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:02:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? That was his first big 'downer'. He has asthma. The Navy folks told him he could not attend the academy. That depressed him big time. His grades went to hell, and he just didn't give a damn about anything. He's finally gotten over it, got a pot full of A's on his last report card (costing me a fortune), and is headed in the right direction. He and his parents don't get along too well, which is pretty normal, but he and I have a super relationship. Money won't be a problem, but I'll let him try for the scholarships first. |
You Navy guys do this?
On 11/23/2017 3:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:02:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? That was his first big 'downer'. He has asthma. The Navy folks told him he could not attend the academy. That depressed him big time. His grades went to hell, and he just didn't give a damn about anything. He's finally gotten over it, got a pot full of A's on his last report card (costing me a fortune), and is headed in the right direction. He and his parents don't get along too well, which is pretty normal, but he and I have a super relationship. Money won't be a problem, but I'll let him try for the scholarships first. His mistake may have been admitting he had asthma to the Navy. :-) My older son has been asthmatic since he was a little kid and still is. When he joined the Navy he didn't acknowledge it and he served his full, four years without any problems. Might be that aboard a ship at sea there are few allergens that kicks off an asthma attack. One of the reasons he moved from MA to SC is because in SC his asthma is not anywhere near as severe as it is up here. He's had all the tests for allergens and he's basically allergic to almost everything that grows. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:11:23 -0500, John H
wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. That is why the U Md acceptance was probably the only one we could have afforded and even that was questionable, commuting to school. I knew GW and American were just a dream. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 19:21:44 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 05:20:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/22/2017 6:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:44:56 -0500, John H wrote: We did CS (tear gas) but never did the pepper spray drill: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...y-3-years.html Nothing like that in the Coast Guard and the Norfolk cops did not have spray. They just beat the **** out of you. The Coast Guard now does pepper spray as part of side arm qualifications. My grandson recently went through it. I am really not surprised. They have changed from a search and rescue operation to a police force. I suppose that is really just a throw back to their roots. They were originally enforcing federal import tax laws and stopping smugglers in "Revenue Cutters". That is probably the service that changed missions the most in the US over the years. When I was there we were doing missions that the Navy should have been doing and that started in WWII, continuing up into the 70s. I had a shield on my sleeve but I was really in the Navy Reserve. The CG does not even have FTs now from what I can tell. What was an FT? Fire Control Tech. Once they gave all of the ships we had with 5" guns away to the Vietnamese, there was no fire control equipment on a cutter so the writing was on the wall. I suppose they all got rolled into the Gunners Mate rate if they had not already left or retired. We were Gunners Mates anyway. That is one reason I tried to change my rate. It would have actually opened up my opportunities and I might have even stayed around, at least in the reserves. I had the GM 3&2 courses on the books before I got my FT crow. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:06:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/23/2017 2:21 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: What was an FT? In the Navy it's the Fire control technician rating. Unlike what the name implies it has little to do with firefighting. It has everything to do with the maintenance and repair of the various weapons and gun controls on the ship. Now-a-days it's mostly computer related. It was "computer related" then too but the computers had springs and gears in them (pure analog) |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:27:05 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2017 3:15 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:02:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? That was his first big 'downer'. He has asthma. The Navy folks told him he could not attend the academy. That depressed him big time. His grades went to hell, and he just didn't give a damn about anything. He's finally gotten over it, got a pot full of A's on his last report card (costing me a fortune), and is headed in the right direction. He and his parents don't get along too well, which is pretty normal, but he and I have a super relationship. Money won't be a problem, but I'll let him try for the scholarships first. His mistake may have been admitting he had asthma to the Navy. :-) My older son has been asthmatic since he was a little kid and still is. When he joined the Navy he didn't acknowledge it and he served his full, four years without any problems. Might be that aboard a ship at sea there are few allergens that kicks off an asthma attack. One of the reasons he moved from MA to SC is because in SC his asthma is not anywhere near as severe as it is up here. He's had all the tests for allergens and he's basically allergic to almost everything that grows. I used to have two puffers for mild asthma but out grew it. I guess a test would be to go camping in a tent during cool damp weather. |
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True North wrote:
I used to have two puffers for mild asthma but out grew it. I guess a test would be to go camping in a tent during cool damp weather. It's "outgrew", dummy. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:26:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/23/2017 3:15 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:02:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? That was his first big 'downer'. He has asthma. The Navy folks told him he could not attend the academy. That depressed him big time. His grades went to hell, and he just didn't give a damn about anything. He's finally gotten over it, got a pot full of A's on his last report card (costing me a fortune), and is headed in the right direction. He and his parents don't get along too well, which is pretty normal, but he and I have a super relationship. Money won't be a problem, but I'll let him try for the scholarships first. His mistake may have been admitting he had asthma to the Navy. :-) My older son has been asthmatic since he was a little kid and still is. When he joined the Navy he didn't acknowledge it and he served his full, four years without any problems. Might be that aboard a ship at sea there are few allergens that kicks off an asthma attack. One of the reasons he moved from MA to SC is because in SC his asthma is not anywhere near as severe as it is up here. He's had all the tests for allergens and he's basically allergic to almost everything that grows. You're probably right. But, if he denied it on a medical questionairre and later was found out, he'd be kicked out of the academy anyway. Sometimes you don't win! |
You Navy guys do this?
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:52:43 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:11:23 -0500, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. That is why the U Md acceptance was probably the only one we could have afforded and even that was questionable, commuting to school. I knew GW and American were just a dream. Without the GI Bill, GW would have been a dream for me also. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 18:13:50 -0500, John H
wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:26:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 3:15 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:02:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? That was his first big 'downer'. He has asthma. The Navy folks told him he could not attend the academy. That depressed him big time. His grades went to hell, and he just didn't give a damn about anything. He's finally gotten over it, got a pot full of A's on his last report card (costing me a fortune), and is headed in the right direction. He and his parents don't get along too well, which is pretty normal, but he and I have a super relationship. Money won't be a problem, but I'll let him try for the scholarships first. His mistake may have been admitting he had asthma to the Navy. :-) My older son has been asthmatic since he was a little kid and still is. When he joined the Navy he didn't acknowledge it and he served his full, four years without any problems. Might be that aboard a ship at sea there are few allergens that kicks off an asthma attack. One of the reasons he moved from MA to SC is because in SC his asthma is not anywhere near as severe as it is up here. He's had all the tests for allergens and he's basically allergic to almost everything that grows. You're probably right. But, if he denied it on a medical questionairre and later was found out, he'd be kicked out of the academy anyway. Sometimes you don't win! The way to go is to go to a doctor and get him to say you outgrew your asthma. If he thinks he can actually do it, he has to believe he has overcome it. The academies have a pretty good physical program along with the academics so you will be out because you can't keep up, not because you lied. I got to know some of the CG cadets on a reserve cruise and they said they were run pretty hard. It was actually my last 2 weeks before I was discharged and I sailed out of Yorktown so I could walk over to sign my papers. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 01:21:04 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 18:13:50 -0500, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:26:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 3:15 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:02:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? That was his first big 'downer'. He has asthma. The Navy folks told him he could not attend the academy. That depressed him big time. His grades went to hell, and he just didn't give a damn about anything. He's finally gotten over it, got a pot full of A's on his last report card (costing me a fortune), and is headed in the right direction. He and his parents don't get along too well, which is pretty normal, but he and I have a super relationship. Money won't be a problem, but I'll let him try for the scholarships first. His mistake may have been admitting he had asthma to the Navy. :-) My older son has been asthmatic since he was a little kid and still is. When he joined the Navy he didn't acknowledge it and he served his full, four years without any problems. Might be that aboard a ship at sea there are few allergens that kicks off an asthma attack. One of the reasons he moved from MA to SC is because in SC his asthma is not anywhere near as severe as it is up here. He's had all the tests for allergens and he's basically allergic to almost everything that grows. You're probably right. But, if he denied it on a medical questionairre and later was found out, he'd be kicked out of the academy anyway. Sometimes you don't win! The way to go is to go to a doctor and get him to say you outgrew your asthma. If he thinks he can actually do it, he has to believe he has overcome it. The academies have a pretty good physical program along with the academics so you will be out because you can't keep up, not because you lied. I got to know some of the CG cadets on a reserve cruise and they said they were run pretty hard. It was actually my last 2 weeks before I was discharged and I sailed out of Yorktown so I could walk over to sign my papers. He wasn't going to 'believe he has overcome it' when he's still using inhalers. Maybe things have changed. It used to be that a violation of the Honor Code would get one thrown out of the military academies. Maybe that was just USMA. Yeah, the PT is a bit rough, but nothing he couldn't have handled. |
You Navy guys do this?
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 06:53:29 -0500, John H
wrote: On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 01:21:04 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 18:13:50 -0500, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:26:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 3:15 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:02:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/23/2017 2:11 PM, John H wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:58:31 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:26:45 -0500, John H wrote: One of my grandsons was considering the Coast Guard. He wanted to be a Coast Guard officer. But he called last night and informed me he got accepted to Auburn. I suppose the Coast Guard is taking a back seat for now. I was accepted to 3 universities when I went into the CG. Money was a big issue but I also had the draft to think about. At least that is not going to be a problem for him. I do think people will take college more seriously after being in the military, particularly if you have been in military schools. We only have to look at the original GI bill students to see that. You also get GI Bill money. The problem with Auburn is the 'out of state' tuition as his home is in Georgia. We're still waiting for a few of the Georgia schools to accept or decline him. One of the big draws for Auburn was its Naval ROTC program. Being an officer in the Navy is high on his list also. I wholeheartedly and positively agree with this post! :-) How about applying to the Naval Academy? That was his first big 'downer'. He has asthma. The Navy folks told him he could not attend the academy. That depressed him big time. His grades went to hell, and he just didn't give a damn about anything. He's finally gotten over it, got a pot full of A's on his last report card (costing me a fortune), and is headed in the right direction. He and his parents don't get along too well, which is pretty normal, but he and I have a super relationship. Money won't be a problem, but I'll let him try for the scholarships first. His mistake may have been admitting he had asthma to the Navy. :-) My older son has been asthmatic since he was a little kid and still is. When he joined the Navy he didn't acknowledge it and he served his full, four years without any problems. Might be that aboard a ship at sea there are few allergens that kicks off an asthma attack. One of the reasons he moved from MA to SC is because in SC his asthma is not anywhere near as severe as it is up here. He's had all the tests for allergens and he's basically allergic to almost everything that grows. You're probably right. But, if he denied it on a medical questionairre and later was found out, he'd be kicked out of the academy anyway. Sometimes you don't win! The way to go is to go to a doctor and get him to say you outgrew your asthma. If he thinks he can actually do it, he has to believe he has overcome it. The academies have a pretty good physical program along with the academics so you will be out because you can't keep up, not because you lied. I got to know some of the CG cadets on a reserve cruise and they said they were run pretty hard. It was actually my last 2 weeks before I was discharged and I sailed out of Yorktown so I could walk over to sign my papers. He wasn't going to 'believe he has overcome it' when he's still using inhalers. Maybe things have changed. It used to be that a violation of the Honor Code would get one thrown out of the military academies. Maybe that was just USMA. Yeah, the PT is a bit rough, but nothing he couldn't have handled. If a doctor said he was cured it would be pretty hard to say it was an honor violation but he wasn't cured if he needed an inhaler to get through the PT. |
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