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[email protected] October 30th 17 02:53 PM

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On 29 Oct 2017 00:07:47 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On 28 Oct 2017 22:39:11 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Never mentioned or implied passing lane, asshole.


If you weren't clogging the left lane, why would you be in front of
us?


Sometimes the left lane is clogged or closed for any number of reasons. Use
your imagination.


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I'm sure you have good reasons for driving like an old lady.

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Keyser Soze October 30th 17 02:57 PM

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On 10/30/17 10:53 AM, wrote:
On 29 Oct 2017 00:07:47 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On 28 Oct 2017 22:39:11 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Never mentioned or implied passing lane, asshole.

If you weren't clogging the left lane, why would you be in front of
us?


Sometimes the left lane is clogged or closed for any number of reasons. Use
your imagination.


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I'm sure you have good reasons for driving like an old lady.

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I drive at the speed limit or just a hair below it. I certainly hope
people who drive that way drive you off a cliff.

[email protected] October 30th 17 03:08 PM

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:44:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/29/17 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.
I stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never
had a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in
love with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making
an offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced
me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.


Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well.Â* In addition the frame on
the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.




Further, for the asking price of that '66 'Vette, you could buy a
brand-new 2017 model that probably provides a much better ride and
certainly would be more reliable, with a new-car warranty, *and* you get
a lot of change back, instead of spending $100,000. Or you could buy a
new Cayman and have a much better car. :)


That is the kind of car that you park in a heated garage and wipe with
a diaper, only taking it out for a short ride to a corvette show now
and then. You do have a chance of making some money on it tho if you
make a good deal buying it, don't scratch it and find a willing buyer
later. At that point it is art, not a car.

[email protected] October 30th 17 04:13 PM

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 10:57:45 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/30/17 10:53 AM, wrote:
On 29 Oct 2017 00:07:47 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

wrote:
On 28 Oct 2017 22:39:11 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

Never mentioned or implied passing lane, asshole.

If you weren't clogging the left lane, why would you be in front of
us?


Sometimes the left lane is clogged or closed for any number of reasons. Use
your imagination.


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I'm sure you have good reasons for driving like an old lady.

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I drive at the speed limit or just a hair below it. I certainly hope
people who drive that way drive you off a cliff.


===

Around here that would be considered suspicious behavior.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 30th 17 04:17 PM

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On 10/30/2017 9:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/29/17 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/29/17 1:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 12:50 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me

wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I
just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â* :)

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60
in a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I
bought has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I
really like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of
times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck
can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm
getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my
typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry
4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights,
driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized
four-door
sedan.Â* :)

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested
for
obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.
Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place
where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â* :)

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it
takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex.Â* I used to get a kick
out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast.Â* Not
anymore.Â* It has lost it's thrill.Â* Now I am much more focused on
what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have
plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle.Â* The 2016
Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp.Â* I was really
surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I
had cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively
bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet".Â* I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission.
Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well.Â* I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I
ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8.Â* There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt.Â*Â* Only place I see any real lack of
power is
going over the Grapevine on I5.Â* But that is steep and long.Â*Â* Very
quiet
on battery or gas.Â*Â* Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife
says you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily.Â* She was going to Walnut
Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the
freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars.Â*Â* I raced a 1964 Vette small
block and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one
these
days.



There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.
I stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never
had a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in
love with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about
making an offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain
convinced me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.


Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well.Â* In addition the frame
on the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.




Further, for the asking price of that '66 'Vette, you could buy a
brand-new 2017 model that probably provides a much better ride and
certainly would be more reliable, with a new-car warranty, *and* you get
a lot of change back, instead of spending $100,000. Or you could buy a
new Cayman and have a much better car. :)



Have no interest in the newer Vette's. I like the styling of the old
"Stingrays" of the 60's. Not looking for an everyday driver. That's
what the Canyon is for. But, I've been through this before, at one
time owning six "classic" cars from the 60's and one, custom built 1946
Ford street rod. The classic car thing is a nice hobby but my brain is
basically saying, "been there, done that".



Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 30th 17 04:20 PM

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On 10/30/2017 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:44:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/29/17 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.
I stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never
had a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in
love with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making
an offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced
me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.

Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well.Â* In addition the frame on
the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.




Further, for the asking price of that '66 'Vette, you could buy a
brand-new 2017 model that probably provides a much better ride and
certainly would be more reliable, with a new-car warranty, *and* you get
a lot of change back, instead of spending $100,000. Or you could buy a
new Cayman and have a much better car. :)


That is the kind of car that you park in a heated garage and wipe with
a diaper, only taking it out for a short ride to a corvette show now
and then. You do have a chance of making some money on it tho if you
make a good deal buying it, don't scratch it and find a willing buyer
later. At that point it is art, not a car.


My experience has been that buying as an investment is a myth unless
maybe you keep it for 20 years or so and keep it in mint condition. I
didn't make a penny when I sold my collection ... in fact I lost some money.

It's more the interest you have in them as a hobby and whatever
enjoyment you may get occasionally driving an old classic.

Its Me October 30th 17 05:10 PM

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On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/30/2017 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:44:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/29/17 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.
I stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never
had a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in
love with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making
an offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced
me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.

Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well.Â* In addition the frame on
the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.




Further, for the asking price of that '66 'Vette, you could buy a
brand-new 2017 model that probably provides a much better ride and
certainly would be more reliable, with a new-car warranty, *and* you get
a lot of change back, instead of spending $100,000. Or you could buy a
new Cayman and have a much better car. :)


That is the kind of car that you park in a heated garage and wipe with
a diaper, only taking it out for a short ride to a corvette show now
and then. You do have a chance of making some money on it tho if you
make a good deal buying it, don't scratch it and find a willing buyer
later. At that point it is art, not a car.


My experience has been that buying as an investment is a myth unless
maybe you keep it for 20 years or so and keep it in mint condition. I
didn't make a penny when I sold my collection ... in fact I lost some money.

It's more the interest you have in them as a hobby and whatever
enjoyment you may get occasionally driving an old classic.


That can sure be the case. I figured out (too late) that its better to buy a classic already done than to get one that needs to be restored. Even if you do most of it yourself, you'll usually spend more doing one than it'll be worth when it's done.

Tim October 30th 17 05:25 PM

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12:10 PMIts Me
- show quoted text -
That can sure be the case. I figured out (too late) that its better to buy a classic already done than to get one that needs to be restored. Even if you do most of it yourself, you'll usually spend more doing one than it'll be worth when it's done.
.....

That's usually how it works with about anything.

Spend $5,000.00 plus labor to restore a motorcycle . Advertise it for $9,000.00 just to get a top bid of $5,500..

Saw that one...

Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 30th 17 05:36 PM

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On 10/30/2017 1:10 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 12:20:38 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/30/2017 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:44:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/29/17 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.
I stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never
had a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in
love with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making
an offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced
me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.

Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well.Â* In addition the frame on
the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.




Further, for the asking price of that '66 'Vette, you could buy a
brand-new 2017 model that probably provides a much better ride and
certainly would be more reliable, with a new-car warranty, *and* you get
a lot of change back, instead of spending $100,000. Or you could buy a
new Cayman and have a much better car. :)

That is the kind of car that you park in a heated garage and wipe with
a diaper, only taking it out for a short ride to a corvette show now
and then. You do have a chance of making some money on it tho if you
make a good deal buying it, don't scratch it and find a willing buyer
later. At that point it is art, not a car.


My experience has been that buying as an investment is a myth unless
maybe you keep it for 20 years or so and keep it in mint condition. I
didn't make a penny when I sold my collection ... in fact I lost some money.

It's more the interest you have in them as a hobby and whatever
enjoyment you may get occasionally driving an old classic.



That can sure be the case. I figured out (too late) that its better to buy a classic already done than to get one that needs to be restored. Even if you do most of it yourself, you'll usually spend more doing one than it'll be worth when it's done.


I've heard that as well. I guess it depends on what you initially pay
for a classic and how long you hold onto it before selling it. The only
one I actually made a little money on was the 1946 Ford Street Rod. It
was built by Boyd Coddington (signed in truck) and was a beautiful car.
When I decided to sell it I put an ad and picture of it in Hemmings and
a guy from Texas called me, hopped on a plane the next morning and
bought it ... cash.

There were two that I kick myself for selling. One was the '67 GTO that
was in factory new condition. The other was a white, 1963 Ford Galaxie
500 convertible with a 390 c.i. engine. The '63 and '64 Fords have
always been my favorites.




Alex[_12_] October 30th 17 10:47 PM

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Keyser Soze wrote:
Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation. I just wish
they weren't so boring to drive. :)
===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit
over 6 seconds. Nothing boring about that.

Engine efficiencies have come a long way. The Canyon I bought has
a V6
rated at 308 hp. It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a
lot. I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for
kicks. Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan. :)
===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.

I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage... :)

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.

I figured you for a little dick.


Says the guy with the Ducati?



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