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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. CR articles are also just the right length for bathroom reading material, along with Golf Digest, American Rifleman, Rider Magazine, and the AMA magazine. I've outgrown the Penny's catalog, but not by much. |
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On 10/18/2017 7:53 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:57:47 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Those are the ones I was thinking of and they are ****. I have one in the shop to cut styrofoam but I don't use one in the kitchen except for cutting into plastic bags or cardboard boxes. (things you should never use your good knives for) Now that they're made in China (with Japanese steel, no less), they must have improved the quality a bit. Heck, with 80+% of the ratings in the 4-5 star area, they can't be too damn bad! John, not trying to knock your choice but what makes you think Japanese steel is good? The vacuum chambers I used to build were all fabricated from stainless steel. For a while our supplier was getting it from Japan and it was terrible. It would laminate, causing a lot of re-work to be required and for some reason was prone to porosity which, in our line of work, was a major problem when trying to weld with virtually no leakage, even when tested with a helium mass spectrometer. After a couple of bad experiences we would only buy American produced stainless. Again, that was years ago though. Perhaps Japanese steel has become better. |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:09:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2017 7:53 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:57:47 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Those are the ones I was thinking of and they are ****. I have one in the shop to cut styrofoam but I don't use one in the kitchen except for cutting into plastic bags or cardboard boxes. (things you should never use your good knives for) Now that they're made in China (with Japanese steel, no less), they must have improved the quality a bit. Heck, with 80+% of the ratings in the 4-5 star area, they can't be too damn bad! John, not trying to knock your choice but what makes you think Japanese steel is good? The vacuum chambers I used to build were all fabricated from stainless steel. For a while our supplier was getting it from Japan and it was terrible. It would laminate, causing a lot of re-work to be required and for some reason was prone to porosity which, in our line of work, was a major problem when trying to weld with virtually no leakage, even when tested with a helium mass spectrometer. After a couple of bad experiences we would only buy American produced stainless. Again, that was years ago though. Perhaps Japanese steel has become better. Japanese steel *has* become much better. Look at the Toyotas of the early 80's. Within a couple years the damn things had rust warts all over them. Now the finish of Japanese cars holds up for years and years. Besides, I'm thinking Japanese steel on knives made in China is better than Chinese steel on knives made in China. :) |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. That was my experience too. |
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On 10/18/2017 8:29 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:09:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 7:53 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:57:47 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Those are the ones I was thinking of and they are ****. I have one in the shop to cut styrofoam but I don't use one in the kitchen except for cutting into plastic bags or cardboard boxes. (things you should never use your good knives for) Now that they're made in China (with Japanese steel, no less), they must have improved the quality a bit. Heck, with 80+% of the ratings in the 4-5 star area, they can't be too damn bad! John, not trying to knock your choice but what makes you think Japanese steel is good? The vacuum chambers I used to build were all fabricated from stainless steel. For a while our supplier was getting it from Japan and it was terrible. It would laminate, causing a lot of re-work to be required and for some reason was prone to porosity which, in our line of work, was a major problem when trying to weld with virtually no leakage, even when tested with a helium mass spectrometer. After a couple of bad experiences we would only buy American produced stainless. Again, that was years ago though. Perhaps Japanese steel has become better. Japanese steel *has* become much better. Look at the Toyotas of the early 80's. Within a couple years the damn things had rust warts all over them. Now the finish of Japanese cars holds up for years and years. Besides, I'm thinking Japanese steel on knives made in China is better than Chinese steel on knives made in China. :) True. |
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On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. |
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On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:42:55 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. I think a lot of the 'seeded' reviews are easy to spot. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. Yup, they still do the surveys, a couple a year. They cover not only vehicles but electronics (computers, televisions) and appliances. They take a while to complete. I suppose some folks will lie about their experiences, but I'm thinking that's the minority. On the other hand, I can't imagine a BMW owner saying anything bad about his/her car! |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 11:59:29 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years.. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
John H wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! I understand that Electrolux was the company behind the knives originally. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
John H wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 20:16:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 11:48:28 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Nope, the ones I just ordered are forged. Surprisingly, some of the Zwilllings are stamped. "Part of Henckels?s Twin Signature of knives, the cutlery in this set have high-carbon, stainless-steel blades that have been stamped from one piece of metal." https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD A lot of professionals like the stamped as they are less weight. Yeah, but for slicing a sweet potato length-wise, I want something that doesn't bend very easily! If I've not given you my grilled sweet potato recipe, here you go. These are really good. Grilled Sweet Potatoes Ingredients 2 pounds sweet potatoes 3-4 Tbsp olive oil Kosher salt Dressing 1/3 cup finely chopped fresh cilantro (including tender stems) 2 teaspoon of lime zest or lemon zest 3 tablespoons of fresh lime or lemon juice 1/4 cup olive oil 1 teaspoon Kosher salt Method 1 Prepare the grill, prep the sweet potatoes: Prepare your grill for hot, direct heat. While the grill is heating up, peel the sweet potatoes and slice lengthwise, or on a diagonal, into 3/8 inch-thick pieces. Coat the sweet potato slices with olive oil and lightly sprinkle with Kosher salt. 2 Make cilantro lime dressing: Combine all of the dressing ingredients into a small bowl. 3 Grill the sweet potatoes: Once the grill is hot, lay the sweet potato pieces down onto the grill grates. Cover the grill and cook until each side gets some grill marks, between 3-6 minutes for each side, depending on how hot your grill is. 4 Toss with dressing: Toss the sweet potatoes in a bowl with the dressing and serve hot. The stamped quality Chefs knife bends no more than the forged knife. I have knives that bend, but I fillet with them. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:55:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. I haven't noticed that in mine. Maybe the newer ones are the 'smarter' ones. Mine's a 2009 which I got in 2010. I'm thinking I'll just keep it 'til I die. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 11:59:29 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. That they don't take ads is one thing I really like about CR. You should read a 'Trailer Life' (RV Magazine) once. They 'review' RVs, and in a two or three page spread there may be one 'unpositive' comment. Total bull**** reviews. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:48:17 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef?s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market?stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! I understand that Electrolux was the company behind the knives originally. From Wikipedia: As of 2017 Ginsu Knives are still manufactured and sold. The Quikut and Ginsu brands have both been manufactured in Walnut Ridge, Arkansas, since the merging of the Douglas (vacuum cleaners) and Quikut (knives) companies in 1964. Douglas Quikut also manufactures ReadiVac and American Angler brands. In 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 Consumer Reports reviewed the Ginsu Chikara knife set in their comparison of fifty knife sets and rated it as their "Best Buy". Now they're made in China. Maybe Douglas owned Electrolux? |
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On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 2:11:08 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. That they don't take ads is one thing I really like about CR. You should read a 'Trailer Life' (RV Magazine) once. They 'review' RVs, and in a two or three page spread there may be one 'unpositive' comment. Total bull**** reviews. While true, the thing I don't like about CR is that they are workman-like, mechanical reviews, at least with cars. R&T and C&D have "car guys" who can drive and report on handling nuances, road feel, etc. more reliably than CR, at least IMO. They just sugarcoat the problems. I used to get a kick out of Audiophile magazine. They were audio snobs who would trash anything they didn't like, and I think sometimes that included decent gear that didn't cost enough to earn their respect. :) |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 2:11:08 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. That they don't take ads is one thing I really like about CR. You should read a 'Trailer Life' (RV Magazine) once. They 'review' RVs, and in a two or three page spread there may be one 'unpositive' comment. Total bull**** reviews. While true, the thing I don't like about CR is that they are workman-like, mechanical reviews, at least with cars. R&T and C&D have "car guys" who can drive and report on handling nuances, road feel, etc. more reliably than CR, at least IMO. They just sugarcoat the problems. I used to get a kick out of Audiophile magazine. They were audio snobs who would trash anything they didn't like, and I think sometimes that included decent gear that didn't cost enough to earn their respect. :) We used to have a high-end audiophile shop in Springfield Mall, just down the road. One day I took the Telarc 1812 overture album in and asked them to play it on their several-thousand dollar turntable and cartridge combination. Don't remember which turntable, but very, very expensive. The salesman said he couldn't do it. Said the record was improperly made and couldn't be played without the tone arm sliding across the album. When I told him my Dual 1019 with a Shure V-15 cartridge would play it just fine, he said I had to have the stylus pressure way too high. This was bull****, but it helped me realize that lots of money doesn't necessarily buy good sound. Of course, my ears wouldn't appreciate that sound now anyway, except for the cannons maybe! |
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On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 3:11:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 2:11:08 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. That they don't take ads is one thing I really like about CR. You should read a 'Trailer Life' (RV Magazine) once. They 'review' RVs, and in a two or three page spread there may be one 'unpositive' comment. Total bull**** reviews. While true, the thing I don't like about CR is that they are workman-like, mechanical reviews, at least with cars. R&T and C&D have "car guys" who can drive and report on handling nuances, road feel, etc. more reliably than CR, at least IMO. They just sugarcoat the problems. I used to get a kick out of Audiophile magazine. They were audio snobs who would trash anything they didn't like, and I think sometimes that included decent gear that didn't cost enough to earn their respect. :) We used to have a high-end audiophile shop in Springfield Mall, just down the road. One day I took the Telarc 1812 overture album in and asked them to play it on their several-thousand dollar turntable and cartridge combination. Don't remember which turntable, but very, very expensive. The salesman said he couldn't do it. Said the record was improperly made and couldn't be played without the tone arm sliding across the album. When I told him my Dual 1019 with a Shure V-15 cartridge would play it just fine, he said I had to have the stylus pressure way too high. This was bull****, but it helped me realize that lots of money doesn't necessarily buy good sound. Of course, my ears wouldn't appreciate that sound now anyway, except for the cannons maybe! Yeah, that was BS. He probably just didn't want to play your album because he didn't know what shape it was in. But, money *does* buy good sound. :) A friend and I were in a high-end store listening to that very selection years ago. When the cannon fire got close a salesman grabbed the volume and turned it down. Didn't want to damage those high-end speakers! |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:28:28 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 3:11:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:50:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 2:11:08 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. That they don't take ads is one thing I really like about CR. You should read a 'Trailer Life' (RV Magazine) once. They 'review' RVs, and in a two or three page spread there may be one 'unpositive' comment. Total bull**** reviews. While true, the thing I don't like about CR is that they are workman-like, mechanical reviews, at least with cars. R&T and C&D have "car guys" who can drive and report on handling nuances, road feel, etc. more reliably than CR, at least IMO. They just sugarcoat the problems. I used to get a kick out of Audiophile magazine. They were audio snobs who would trash anything they didn't like, and I think sometimes that included decent gear that didn't cost enough to earn their respect. :) We used to have a high-end audiophile shop in Springfield Mall, just down the road. One day I took the Telarc 1812 overture album in and asked them to play it on their several-thousand dollar turntable and cartridge combination. Don't remember which turntable, but very, very expensive. The salesman said he couldn't do it. Said the record was improperly made and couldn't be played without the tone arm sliding across the album. When I told him my Dual 1019 with a Shure V-15 cartridge would play it just fine, he said I had to have the stylus pressure way too high. This was bull****, but it helped me realize that lots of money doesn't necessarily buy good sound. Of course, my ears wouldn't appreciate that sound now anyway, except for the cannons maybe! Yeah, that was BS. He probably just didn't want to play your album because he didn't know what shape it was in. But, money *does* buy good sound. :) A friend and I were in a high-end store listening to that very selection years ago. When the cannon fire got close a salesman grabbed the volume and turned it down. Didn't want to damage those high-end speakers! LOL! |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:11:09 -0400, John H
wrote: I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. That they don't take ads is one thing I really like about CR. You should read a 'Trailer Life' (RV Magazine) once. They 'review' RVs, and in a two or three page spread there may be one 'unpositive' comment. Total bull**** reviews. === I think the Consumer Reports reviews are a good starting point, paticularly their reliability evaluations which are important to me. I like to keep my vehicles until they are ready to drop because I've always believed that transaction costs are too high when buying and selling, same with boats. While the CR reviews may not be perfect, at least you know that they are not being influenced by advertising revenue. It's my understanding that they actually buy their test vehicles anonymously. The car mags of course are dependent on manufacturers and dealers for test vehicles and they have to tread very carefully to avoid being cut off. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. |
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On 10/18/2017 2:50 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 2:11:08 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: I agree. Magazines like Car and Driver or Road and Track make for interesting reading at times, but you have to take their reviews with a grain of salt. Between them getting ringers from car companies to test, and the "not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you" syndrome, many of their test articles are just fluff pieces. If they have something bad to say about a car, it's usually very carefully worded so it almost doesn't sound negative. That they don't take ads is one thing I really like about CR. You should read a 'Trailer Life' (RV Magazine) once. They 'review' RVs, and in a two or three page spread there may be one 'unpositive' comment. Total bull**** reviews. While true, the thing I don't like about CR is that they are workman-like, mechanical reviews, at least with cars. R&T and C&D have "car guys" who can drive and report on handling nuances, road feel, etc. more reliably than CR, at least IMO. They just sugarcoat the problems. I used to get a kick out of Audiophile magazine. They were audio snobs who would trash anything they didn't like, and I think sometimes that included decent gear that didn't cost enough to earn their respect. :) The ones that make me laugh are the ones trying to prove that "directional" interconnecting cables actually have a positive effect on sound quality. |
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John H wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 20:16:34 -0400, Alex wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:36:34 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? === Has Consumer Reports ever rated kitchen knives? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Yup, in order: Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Professional "S" Wusthof Classic Ikon #8347 Wusthof Classic #8418 kitchen Ginsu Chikara Zwilling J.A. Henckels Four Star Kershaw Shun Classic DMS300 I'd about settled on this set: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0016J4230...PHJ KYUD&th=1 But then saw that this set was actually cheaper even though it had more knives: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0011TRO80...PHJ KYUD&th=1 So, the Ginsu 12 piece is now on order! Unfortunately, they are made in China with Japanese steel. That's OK. The Zwilling Internationals are also made in China. But, I did cancel the order. After reading, I decided the 12-piece set was cheaper just so they could get rid of the steak knives which were not Ginsu but very cheap stuff. Went back to the eight-piece set. College kids don't be needin' no steak knives anyway. True. Romaine noodles are fork-tender! |
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On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? |
Simple Home Remedy #1
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? Godot. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On 10/19/2017 2:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? Godot. Had to look that up. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? Godot. Strange book. But as one person said. Russian novels. Bad. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? Godot. Strange book. But as one person said. Russian novels. Bad. Beckett was Irish. He wrote in French and English. Waiting for Godot is not a Russian novel. Beckett won the Nobel Prize for Literature. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
Keyser Söze wrote:
Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? Godot. Strange book. But as one person said. Russian novels. Bad. Beckett was Irish. He wrote in French and English. Waiting for Godot is not a Russian novel. Beckett won the Nobel Prize for Literature. I think the two tramps were supposed to be Russian. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
Keyser Soze wrote:
Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? Godot. Strange book. But as one person said. Russian novels. Bad. Beckett was Irish. He wrote in French and English. Waiting for Godot is not a Russian novel. Beckett won the Nobel Prize for Literature. I think the two tramps were supposed to be Russian. They were short on non-descript, ethnically, and the work is a play, not a novel. And just like the fracking boring Death of a Salesman every high school drama class does. Boring. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 00:06:32 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: And just like the fracking boring Death of a Salesman every high school drama class does. Boring. Our drama gang did The Caine Mutiny Court Marshal, a subset of Julius Caesar and an interesting spin on the Grapes of Wrath. (our original play based on the book). Harry would have had a hard on through the whole thing because they leaned heavily on the union organizer and his death. |
Simple Home Remedy #1
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:05:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/19/2017 1:45 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 5:47 PM, Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/18/2017 12:18 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:59:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:42 AM, Its Me wrote: On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:58:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/18/2017 6:41 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 18:23:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2017 4:16 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:24:20 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:51:59 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:39:18 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 07:50:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:19:11 -0400, wrote: There are a few of those TV cooking guys who do pretty knife work. Jeff Smith (Frugal Gourmet) was a great knife guy. I learned lots of things from watching that show. Too bad he was a pervert ;-) I have some Zwillings that even Harry would be proud to have. My cheap Zwilling Five Stars have served well for many years. But, I'm sure Harry would look down his nose at anything less than a set of Michel Bras knives to go in that fantastically perfect kitchen of his. This is my go to knife for general chopping and slicing. I think Judy paid a buck and a quarter for it. https://pim-cdn.zwilling.com/data/cdn/workarea/suppliers/zw_lieferant/documents/hotfolder/394/38408180_white.jpg I've tried the Santoku style, but it just never felt right. Been using this one too long: https://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/94648246769206p?$478$ Judy got a good buy! I also have a traditional 10" Chicago Cutlery chef knife and their 12" ham slicer (that I have had for decades) but I am getting pretty used to the Zwilling. The sharp edge is a little straighter and it is great for chopping. I'm in the market for a small knife set for a grandson getting into an apartment while going to Virginia Tech. CC has a nice looking set with Japanese steel, but then I saw it's made in China. I've had a couple CC knives, but could never get them to hold a decent edge. Am looking at these three sets now. This would be a Christmas present, so I've plenty of time to decide which. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0016J42...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBI...=EEOGPHJ KYUD https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00CK8UG...=EEOGPHJ KYUD Suggestions anyone? When I hear Ginsu I think of those cheap stamped steel things with the rough serrated edge. Ginsu knives were made my a vacuum cleaner company. Name slips me the moment. Was a canister vac. Mom had one. Was an Asian demo guy, so they named it Ginsu. Douglas Redivac owns Ginsu now. The original name for the knives was "Quiccut" but it was determined that the name had no marketing appeal so it was changed to "Ginsu", alluding to Japanese samurai swords. Ginsu knives are most famous for the marketing campaign used to sell them. From Wiki: "The resulting Ginsu ads copied the hard sell direct marketing techniques of carnival hawkers pioneering TV pitchman Ron Popeil had adapted to the medium in the 1960s. In the process, they helped solidify the formula for the modern infomercial. The energetic and verbose ads were ubiquitous in the late 1970s on U.S. television. Advertisements for the "amazing" Ginsu knife asked, "How much would you pay? Don't answer!", urged viewers to "Call now! Operators are standing by!" and included the signature "But wait! There's more!", which became a popular infomercial catch phrase ever since." Funny. Here's CRs take: "For some, the name Ginsu is synonymous with hammy 1970s-era infomercials, but this a serious cutlery company. Its 8-piece set offers incredible value, providing the cutting performance and handle comfort of knives costing three and four times as much. The set includes a chef’s and santoku knife, but not a slicer." And: "There are two basic types of steel knives on the market—stamped and forged. Ultra cheap knives, like the $40 Ronco Showtime Six Star+, with its 26 pieces, are usually made out of stamped steel. Even at the Ronco's bargain price, cutting performance isn't enough to make it a smart purchase. You're better off spending more on knives forged from a single piece of steel, as they typically result in a sturdier blade that's less likely to bend. Of the eight steel-knife sets we recommend, all are forged. Five of them cost at least $300, and the priciest of the bunch, the Zwilling J.A. Henckels Twin Profection #33049, sells for $600. Along with fellow German manufacturer Wusthof, Zwilling is a regular leader in our Ratings (the two brands currently claim the top four spots). There is one CR Best Buy in our winner's circle, and it's the exception to the rule about spending top dollar for quality knives. If you grew up in the late 1970s, you might remember the Ginsu as-seen-on-TV ads featuring a blade sawing through a soda can and then delicately carving a ripe tomato. But Ginsu is a serious cutlery company, as evidenced by the Ginsu Chikara, an eight-piece set that sells for $75 and delivers excellent cutting performance." The original Ginsu knives sold on television were all made in Fremont Ohio by Quikut. They're now made in China using Japanese 420J stainless steel. They ought to be good enough for a college kid! You're showing our age! Maybe they are being made better than back in the 70's. Searching for a Christmas present for Mrs.E., I fell for the TV ads and bought a set of Ginsu knives. As I recall, at first they seemed fine and were sharp but they didn't last long in that condition. It wasn't long before they were replaced. You seem to put a lot of faith in Consumer Reports. I don't, although I admit I don't read many of their reviews and those I do are usually on cars or trucks. They've given high scores and recommended a few that later turned out to be pure junk over the years. I'll readily admit that CR has made a few boo-boos. But that would happen to any organization. They provide a lot of concise information, decent comparisons, and make a starting point. On the internet they also provide reviews, which I've found to be worthwhile. Then I'll go to Amazon, for example, and look at reviews. If over 80% of many hundred reviews are 4-5 stars, I'm thinking the product may be worthwhile. Be aware that Amazon reviews are "seeded" in many cases by suppliers giving away free product in exchange for reviews, and in some cases just fake reviews to boost the product's ratings. One of the most useful CR reports is the vehicle reliability ratings gathered from the questionnaire they sent their readers. These were compiled from real people and their experience with vehicles they bought. Even those may be skewed a bit by the type of people that read CR, and by people who naturally complain about bad experiences but may not be as vocal about the good. I guess they still do those surveys. I think finding truthful reviews, especially for vehicles, is scarce. Human nature is such that good reviews are more the norm by people who recently purchased the vehicle and are subconsciously justifying their purchase. The bad reviews come later after many miles on the odometer. I like my truck, but I've not found it hard to be honest about the problems I've had while doing the CR survey. But, there may be a bit of truth to what you say. Off subject a bit but I like the GMC I bought however the climate control system drives me nuts sometimes. It's too "smart" for it's own good. If the relative humidity is above about 60 percent, the AC compressor runs, even though the display says it's off and I've manually made sure it is turned off. Then, when heating the truck, when the temp approaches the desired setpoint, the damn thing starts blowing ice cold air to prevent an overshoot. If the humidity is below 60 percent, it seems to work just fine. Never see that on my GM products, but we did not see much more than 35% humidity. Wife’s Venza automatic mode never gets close to a steady temperature. I have a friend who has a Silverado that is a few years old. His climate control system does not behave like mine. I did some Google reading and I am not the only one complaining about it. Apparently the system now has more input sensors than just temperature. It also senses humidity and the temperature of the windshield and automatically controls the AC compressor, even if you have turned it "off". I can understand turning the compressor on when the windshield defrost mode is selected like most cars used to do. But, I'd like to be able to control it's operation when just heating the cabin. I don't think it's only a GM thing. The 2016 Nissan Altima had a climate control system that operated similarly although the proportional band didn't seem as tight as the Canyon's. Don't know about the briefly owned 2017 Nissan Pathfinder because it never had heat to begin with. :-) ...waiting... For what? For Harry or Don White to jump on that mistake. Surprised they haven't done so yet. |
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