12:45
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 13:11:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2017 12:23 PM, Bill wrote:

At 12 years old I drove a forklift. No big whoops. When I worked in a
pallet mill when 16-17 we all,drove forklifts. Did not require a forklift
license then.



Heh. I used to drive the two forklifts my business had sometimes. The
shop crew used to get a kick out of me buzzing around on them. Then,
one day, we had a site inspection by our insurance company. I was asked
if all the forklift operators were certified. That was the end of my
forklift driving career.

Interesting. I have never heard of that. Most of the operators I know
around here are Latino and barely speak english. They seem to be very
good with the machines tho. I did have an Anglo guy digging my septic
field but he was a school teacher who moonlighted as an operator using
rented equipment. I am sure none of them was certified by anyone.
When I rent machines, nobody asks me anything but how I will pay and
when I want it picked up.

.....

You were renting them personally. When I worked in a factory 35 years ago, I had to be certified to drive the forklifts. No big deal. Watch a funny little movie and take a written test. All company time and payed for too

Tim wrote:
12:45
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 13:11:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2017 12:23 PM, Bill wrote:

At 12 years old I drove a forklift. No big whoops. When I worked in a
pallet mill when 16-17 we all,drove forklifts. Did not require a forklift
license then.



Heh. I used to drive the two forklifts my business had sometimes. The
shop crew used to get a kick out of me buzzing around on them. Then,
one day, we had a site inspection by our insurance company. I was asked
if all the forklift operators were certified. That was the end of my
forklift driving career.

Interesting. I have never heard of that. Most of the operators I know
around here are Latino and barely speak english. They seem to be very
good with the machines tho. I did have an Anglo guy digging my septic
field but he was a school teacher who moonlighted as an operator using
rented equipment. I am sure none of them was certified by anyone.
When I rent machines, nobody asks me anything but how I will pay and
when I want it picked up.

....

You were renting them personally. When I worked in a factory 35 years
ago, I had to be certified to drive the forklifts. No big deal. Watch a
funny little movie and take a written test. All company time and payed for too


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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 11:04:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

12:45
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 13:11:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2017 12:23 PM, Bill wrote:

At 12 years old I drove a forklift. No big whoops. When I worked in a
pallet mill when 16-17 we all,drove forklifts. Did not require a forklift
license then.



Heh. I used to drive the two forklifts my business had sometimes. The
shop crew used to get a kick out of me buzzing around on them. Then,
one day, we had a site inspection by our insurance company. I was asked
if all the forklift operators were certified. That was the end of my
forklift driving career.

Interesting. I have never heard of that. Most of the operators I know
around here are Latino and barely speak english. They seem to be very
good with the machines tho. I did have an Anglo guy digging my septic
field but he was a school teacher who moonlighted as an operator using
rented equipment. I am sure none of them was certified by anyone.
When I rent machines, nobody asks me anything but how I will pay and
when I want it picked up.

....

You were renting them personally. When I worked in a factory 35 years ago, I had to be certified to drive the forklifts. No big deal. Watch a funny little movie and take a written test. All company time and payed for too

I guess I am just old and from a time when lawyers did not run the
world. In Illinois, I am surprised you did not need an Operating
Engineer's card. ;-)

On 10/4/2017 2:47 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 11:04:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

12:45
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 13:11:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2017 12:23 PM, Bill wrote:

At 12 years old I drove a forklift. No big whoops. When I worked in a
pallet mill when 16-17 we all,drove forklifts. Did not require a forklift
license then.



Heh. I used to drive the two forklifts my business had sometimes. The
shop crew used to get a kick out of me buzzing around on them. Then,
one day, we had a site inspection by our insurance company. I was asked
if all the forklift operators were certified. That was the end of my
forklift driving career.

Interesting. I have never heard of that. Most of the operators I know
around here are Latino and barely speak english. They seem to be very
good with the machines tho. I did have an Anglo guy digging my septic
field but he was a school teacher who moonlighted as an operator using
rented equipment. I am sure none of them was certified by anyone.
When I rent machines, nobody asks me anything but how I will pay and
when I want it picked up.

....

You were renting them personally. When I worked in a factory 35 years ago, I had to be certified to drive the forklifts. No big deal. Watch a funny little movie and take a written test. All company time and payed for too

I guess I am just old and from a time when lawyers did not run the
world. In Illinois, I am surprised you did not need an Operating
Engineer's card. ;-)


Like Tim pointed out, your personal use of rented equipment isn't the
same as being a business that employs people and carries insurance on them.