On 9/28/17 8:38 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/28/17 7:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/27/2017 6:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/27/17 4:45 PM, Bill wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:38:06 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze
wrote:
On 9/27/17 3:17 PM, Bill wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/27/17 11:20 AM, Tim wrote:

8:24 AMKeyser Soze
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On 9/27/17 8:33 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 5:50:31 AM UTC-5, Keyser
Soze wrote:
On 9/26/17 10:36 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry are you feeling the love now?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politi...nge/index.html



Are you talking about the love ignorant people feel for a
bible-thumping, revolver-flashing fool like Moore? And if the
other guy
had won, it wouldn't have made any difference...both
candidates were
embarrassments, and perfectly suited to replace the racist,
Jeff Sessions.

Why, I'll bet you are pleased as punch Moore won. He's quite
your type, eh?

"They" are closing in on you, Harry. Like Nom-de-plume would
say. "be
afraid, be very afraid." LOL


Keep your paranoia to yourself. It is scary, though, when
ignorant,
racist bible-thumpers are elected to high political office.

----

You're sounding pretty paranoid to me...


Overly religious assholes who want to push their backwards,
ignorant,
superstitious beliefs on the general public make me nervous when
they
hold high political office. Moore fits that description.


Better git while the gittins good. They have you in their sights.
Isn't there some athiest cult on a faraway island you can
join?

Actually, the ones who worry me are ultra liberal assholes who
push their
belief that those who work, should give most of their money to
those who
don't.


You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much
higher?

In that era, it was considered shameful to be on welfare, and folks
generally got off of it as quickly as they could. Today we have
generations of people gaming the system and seemingly proud of it.


My late fishing partner was a black guy from Harrisburg, PA. His
youngest
daughter collected welfare. Was an embarrassment to the family.
None had
ever been on welfare. Grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. all bitched
about
her going on welfare. She just did not want to work.




Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a
lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover
to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were
literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for
unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the
1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of
local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way -
there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor
factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty
good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was
easy to get a job. That's not true these days.

For an number of reasons. One thing you have to give to Trump. He's
trying to fix that.


He couldn't fix a flat tire.


Could you?


Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of
Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems to
give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit. What
have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last nine months?

On 9/28/2017 8:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 8:38 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/28/17 7:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/27/2017 6:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/27/17 4:45 PM, Bill wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:38:06 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze
wrote:
On 9/27/17 3:17 PM, Bill wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/27/17 11:20 AM, Tim wrote:

8:24 AMKeyser Soze
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On 9/27/17 8:33 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 5:50:31 AM UTC-5, Keyser
Soze wrote:
On 9/26/17 10:36 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry are you feeling the love now?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politi...nge/index.html




Are you talking about the love ignorant people feel for a
bible-thumping, revolver-flashing fool like Moore? And if the
other guy
had won, it wouldn't have made any difference...both
candidates were
embarrassments, and perfectly suited to replace the racist,
Jeff Sessions.

Why, I'll bet you are pleased as punch Moore won. He's quite
your type, eh?

"They" are closing in on you, Harry. Like Nom-de-plume would
say. "be
afraid, be very afraid." LOL


Keep your paranoia to yourself. It is scary, though, when
ignorant,
racist bible-thumpers are elected to high political office.

----

You're sounding pretty paranoid to me...


Overly religious assholes who want to push their backwards,
ignorant,
superstitious beliefs on the general public make me nervous when
they
hold high political office. Moore fits that description.


Better git while the gittins good. They have you in their sights.
Isn't* there some athiest cult on a faraway island you can
join?

Actually, the ones who worry me are ultra liberal assholes who
push their
belief that those who work, should give most of their money to
those who
don't.


You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much
higher?

In that era, it was considered shameful to be on welfare, and folks
generally got off of it as quickly as they could.* Today we have
generations of people gaming the system and seemingly proud of it.


My late fishing partner was a black guy from Harrisburg, PA.* His
youngest
daughter collected welfare.* Was an embarrassment to the family.
None had
ever been on welfare.* Grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. all bitched
about
her going on welfare.* She just did not want to work.




Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s. I'm a
lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper cover
to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were
literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for
unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the
1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of
local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way -
there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a razor
factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty
good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It was
easy to get a job. That's not true these days.

For an number of reasons.* One thing you have to give to Trump.* He's
trying to fix that.


He couldn't fix a flat tire.


Could you?


Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of
Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems to
give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit. What
have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last nine months?


This thing about "more relief to the super rich" continues to be spread
by the anti-Trump crowd despite the facts. Another example of dishonest
brainwashing.

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

On 9/28/17 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/28/2017 8:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 8:38 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/28/17 7:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/27/2017 6:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/27/17 4:45 PM, Bill wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:38:06 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze
wrote:
On 9/27/17 3:17 PM, Bill wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/27/17 11:20 AM, Tim wrote:

8:24 AMKeyser Soze
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On 9/27/17 8:33 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 5:50:31 AM UTC-5, Keyser
Soze wrote:
On 9/26/17 10:36 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry are you feeling the love now?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politi...nge/index.html




Are you talking about the love ignorant people feel for a
bible-thumping, revolver-flashing fool like Moore? And if
the
other guy
had won, it wouldn't have made any difference...both
candidates were
embarrassments, and perfectly suited to replace the racist,
Jeff Sessions.

Why, I'll bet you are pleased as punch Moore won. He's quite
your type, eh?

"They" are closing in on you, Harry. Like Nom-de-plume would
say. "be
afraid, be very afraid." LOL


Keep your paranoia to yourself. It is scary, though, when
ignorant,
racist bible-thumpers are elected to high political office.

----

You're sounding pretty paranoid to me...


Overly religious assholes who want to push their backwards,
ignorant,
superstitious beliefs on the general public make me nervous
when
they
hold high political office. Moore fits that description.


Better git while the gittins good. They have you in their
sights.
Isn't* there some athiest cult on a faraway island you can
join?

Actually, the ones who worry me are ultra liberal assholes who
push their
belief that those who work, should give most of their money to
those who
don't.


You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much
higher?

In that era, it was considered shameful to be on welfare, and folks
generally got off of it as quickly as they could.* Today we have
generations of people gaming the system and seemingly proud of it.


My late fishing partner was a black guy from Harrisburg, PA.* His
youngest
daughter collected welfare.* Was an embarrassment to the family.
None had
ever been on welfare.* Grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. all bitched
about
her going on welfare.* She just did not want to work.




Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s.
I'm a
lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper
cover
to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were
literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for
unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the
1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of
local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way -
there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a
razor
factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty
good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers. It
was
easy to get a job. That's not true these days.

For an number of reasons.* One thing you have to give to Trump.* He's
trying to fix that.


He couldn't fix a flat tire.


Could you?


Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of
Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems to
give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit.
What have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last
nine months?


This thing about "more relief to the super rich"* continues to be spread
by the anti-Trump crowd despite the facts.* Another example of dishonest
brainwashing.

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

8:28 AMKeyser Soze
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What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

----

Why should anybody be financially robbed because a family member died?

"You owe us because they left it to you..,"

Great! Glad to see it go.

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 9:37:00 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
8:28 AMKeyser Soze
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What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

----

Why should anybody be financially robbed because a family member died?

"You owe us because they left it to you..,"

Great! Glad to see it go.

Taxes were already paid on the money used to accumulate the estate. It is double taxation.

Its Me
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On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 9:37:00 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
8:28 AMKeyser Soze
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What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

----

Why should anybody be financially robbed because a family member died?

"You owe us because they left it to you..,"

Great! Glad to see it go.

Taxes were already paid on the money used to accumulate the estate. It is double taxation.
....

Yep!

On 9/28/2017 9:28 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/28/2017 8:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 8:38 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/28/17 7:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/27/2017 6:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/27/17 4:45 PM, Bill wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:38:06 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze
wrote:
On 9/27/17 3:17 PM, Bill wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/27/17 11:20 AM, Tim wrote:

8:24 AMKeyser Soze
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On 9/27/17 8:33 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 5:50:31 AM UTC-5, Keyser
Soze wrote:
On 9/26/17 10:36 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry are you feeling the love now?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politi...nge/index.html




Are you talking about the love ignorant people feel for a
bible-thumping, revolver-flashing fool like Moore? And
if the
other guy
had won, it wouldn't have made any difference...both
candidates were
embarrassments, and perfectly suited to replace the racist,
Jeff Sessions.

Why, I'll bet you are pleased as punch Moore won. He's
quite
your type, eh?

"They" are closing in on you, Harry. Like Nom-de-plume would
say. "be
afraid, be very afraid." LOL


Keep your paranoia to yourself. It is scary, though, when
ignorant,
racist bible-thumpers are elected to high political office.

----

You're sounding pretty paranoid to me...


Overly religious assholes who want to push their backwards,
ignorant,
superstitious beliefs on the general public make me nervous
when
they
hold high political office. Moore fits that description.


Better git while the gittins good. They have you in their
sights.
Isn't* there some athiest cult on a faraway island you can
join?

Actually, the ones who worry me are ultra liberal assholes who
push their
belief that those who work, should give most of their money to
those who
don't.


You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much
higher?

In that era, it was considered shameful to be on welfare, and
folks
generally got off of it as quickly as they could.* Today we have
generations of people gaming the system and seemingly proud of it.


My late fishing partner was a black guy from Harrisburg, PA.* His
youngest
daughter collected welfare.* Was an embarrassment to the family.
None had
ever been on welfare.* Grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. all
bitched
about
her going on welfare.* She just did not want to work.




Life is far more complicated than it was in the 1950s and 1960s.
I'm a
lifelong fan of newspapers and I used to read our hometown paper
cover
to cover every night, including the classifieds, and there were
literally hundreds of jobs available and advertised every night for
unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers. This continued in the
1960s...I got summer jobs my first years in college via a couple of
local unions, because they couldn't fill the jobs any other way -
there was a shortage of workers. I worked at a boiler factory, a
razor
factory, and a brewery over three successive summers, and for pretty
good pay. These companies were always looking for more workers.
It was
easy to get a job. That's not true these days.

For an number of reasons.* One thing you have to give to Trump.* He's
trying to fix that.


He couldn't fix a flat tire.


Could you?


Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of
Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems
to give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit.
What have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last
nine months?


This thing about "more relief to the super rich"* continues to be
spread by the anti-Trump crowd despite the facts.* Another example of
dishonest brainwashing.

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.


As it should ... for everyone.

Meanwhile, the proposed Trump tax plan eliminates virtually all tax
loopholes enjoyed by the "rich" other than mortgage interest and
charitable contributions.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:42:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.


As it should ... for everyone.

Meanwhile, the proposed Trump tax plan eliminates virtually all tax
loopholes enjoyed by the "rich" other than mortgage interest and
charitable contributions.


I would not be upset if they revisited the mortgage interest deduction
too, particularly for the "second home" that could be a yacht.
Unfortunately that is another "jobs" program. When they imposed the
short lived "luxury tax", the people most affected were the workers
who built those luxuries.
I do agree the mortgage deduction is just a subsidy for the housing
industry but it is so deeply imbedded in our economy I doubt it is
going anywhere.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax
to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really
seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but
still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be
upside down on.

On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax
to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really
seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but
still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be
upside down on.


The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial.