wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:38:03 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

You mean, as in the Eisenhower era, when tax rates were so much higher?

People ignore the fact that there were a lot more loopholes in the
code that allowed anyone but game show winners and a few high salaried
people to shelter most of their income so that 90% rate did not affect
them that much. It is like Buffett (Warren or Jimmy) who pay a tax
rate around 12-15% in spite of a top rate of 39.6%.


Actually their tax rate is really a lot higher. All those dividends taxed
at the 20% capital gains rate were already taxed at the highest corporation
tax rate in the world. 39%. So that makes those double taxed dividends at
about 51%.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax
to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really
seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but
still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be
upside down on.


The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial.


Not if you own a California house.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent
"Progressive Liberal Party"?

Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are
the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest
ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have
on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can
down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar
bill.


Are you trashing the military again?


The military seems to be very productive to you. Helping rebuild PR.

On 9/28/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax
to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really
seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but
still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be
upside down on.


The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial.


Not if you own a California house.


The current deductible is about $6 million. When Trump claims that
cancellation of that estate tax won't benefit the rich (and himself), he
is full of ****. The GOP "plan" also calls for the elimination of the
Alternative Minimum Tax...something that also would have benefitted
Trump enormously in the past.

The GOP plan is little more than smoke and mirrors to put more $$$ in
the hands of the rich.

On 9/28/2017 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent
"Progressive Liberal Party"?

Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are
the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest
ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have
on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can
down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar
bill.



But now, in a change of heart, Dems like Pelosi are calling any tax
reform or reduction by Trump (because he's Trump) as being fiscally
irresponsible. She has suddenly become very frugal.

On 9/28/17 2:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/28/2017 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent
"Progressive Liberal Party"?

Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are
the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest
ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have
on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can
down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar
bill.



But now, in a change of heart, Dems like Pelosi are calling any tax
reform or reduction by Trump (because he's Trump) as being fiscally
irresponsible.Â* She has suddenly become very frugal.





I doubt this is "Trump's" tax reform. He doesn't have enough "wonkiness"
to even read such a plan. At the moment, all it is is bunch of topical
sentences and paragraphs that give its GOP authors and fans in congress
a hard-on. Reminds me of trickle down, that rain that doesn't create
jobs or end up in the pockets of the poor or middle class, but simple
results in pee being sprayed on them. Didn't George H.W. Bush call it
"voodoo" economics?

On 9/28/2017 2:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 1:35 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 11:59 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:28:50 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

The "super rich" are not getting a tax break.

What a laugh. For starters, total elimination of the Estate Tax.

I am not sure how many really rich people actually pay an estate tax
to begin with. Their money is usually buried in a trust. That really
seems to affect people who do not think of themselves as rich but
still have assets like land and equipment that they may actually be
upside down on.


The current deductible involving the estate tax is substantial.


Not if you own a California house.


The current deductible is about $6 million. When Trump claims that
cancellation of that estate tax won't benefit the rich (and himself), he
is full of ****. The GOP "plan" also calls for the elimination of the
Alternative Minimum Tax...something that also would have benefitted
Trump enormously in the past.



The GOP plan is little more than smoke and mirrors to put more $$$ in
the hands of the rich.

Funny. That's word for word, exactly what Pelosi said yesterday.
Seems the progressive liberal communication command center is hard at work.

On 9/28/2017 2:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 2:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/28/2017 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:11:21 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent
"Progressive Liberal Party"?

Call a spade a spade. We are talking about democrats. You folks are
the ones who tried to rebrand yourselves as "progressive". The biggest
ignorant belief is that we can continue to spend money we don't have
on the most nonproductive members of society and just kick the can
down the road about how our kids will pay that 20 trillion dollar
bill.



But now, in a change of heart, Dems like Pelosi are calling any tax
reform or reduction by Trump (because he's Trump) as being fiscally
irresponsible.Â* She has suddenly become very frugal.





I doubt this is "Trump's" tax reform. He doesn't have enough "wonkiness"
to even read such a plan. At the moment, all it is isÂ* bunch of topical
sentences and paragraphs that give its GOP authors and fans in congress
a hard-on. Reminds me of trickle down, that rain that doesn't create
jobs or end up in the pockets of the poor or middle class, but simple
results in pee being sprayed on them. Didn't George H.W. Bush call it
"voodoo" economics?




Worked for JFK. Worked for Reagan. Worked for GWB. Who else?

In article ,
says...


Yup. Been there, done that. More than once. Getting a kick out of
Trump's "tax plan," by the way, the plan without numbers that seems to
give even more relief to the super rich and drives up the deficit. What
have those morons running the GOP actually been doing the last nine months?

Repealing the ACA...oh, wait.

In article ,
says...

On 9/28/17 8:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/28/2017 7:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/28/17 7:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/27/2017 11:46 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/27/17 11:20 AM, Tim wrote:

8:24 AMKeyser Soze
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On 9/27/17 8:33 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 5:50:31 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze
wrote:
On 9/26/17 10:36 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry are you feeling the love now?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politi...nge/index.html



Are you talking about the love ignorant people feel for a
bible-thumping, revolver-flashing fool like Moore? And if the
other guy
had won, it wouldn't have made any difference...both candidates were
embarrassments, and perfectly suited to replace the racist, Jeff
Sessions.

Why, I'll bet you are pleased as punch Moore won. He's quite your
type, eh?

"They" are closing in on you, Harry. Like Nom-de-plume would say.
"be afraid, be very afraid." LOL


Keep your paranoia to yourself. It is scary, though, when ignorant,
racist bible-thumpers are elected to high political office.

----

You're sounding pretty paranoid to me...


Overly religious assholes who want to push their backwards,
ignorant, superstitious beliefs on the general public make me
nervous when they hold high political office. Moore fits that
description.


Many progressive liberal party members already holding office aren't
much different when you judge them based on their backwards, ignorant
beliefs that they are pushing on the general public.

What's the difference?





Progressive Liberal Party...hmm...not on my ballot in Maryland.* And
what "backwards, ignorant beliefs" do they hold? Equality? Disdain for
police murdering people? Access to decent health insurance? Disdain
for the rich getting even richer at the expense of the poor? Anti-war?
Anti-Trump?

All you recite here is the official party line and "facts" that although
*proven to be untrue continue to be repeated by you and your kind and
supported by the liberal media as if they *are* true.* It's really a
shame to see so many being brainwashed.




So, what are these "backwards, ignorant beliefs" of the non-existent
"Progressive Liberal Party"?

Don't expect an honest answer from a troller.