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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
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Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.

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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Ahhh, you've fallen into Canadian waters, or maybe Maine waters.
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:24:50 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
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Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.

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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Ahhh, you've fallen into Canadian waters, or maybe Maine waters.

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Actually northern Lake Ontario in the early spring, about 25 miles
south of Canada.

On 9/19/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.

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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.



Nope. One of my musician friends from when I had the guitar shop was an
avid kayaker. He'd often venture out in the ocean briefly off of
Scituate, MA but mostly stayed in the North River which during tide
changes can develop a very strong current.

One weekend he was missing in action. They found him (dead) near his
upturned kayak. His bag of weed was still dry though.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:15:31 -0400,
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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

The guides on white water raft trips use kayaks so that may not be
exactly true. They have the boots over the cockpit that tie around
their waist so the boat will not fill up and they will roll one for
the tourists for kicks.

True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA



Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more
than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I
could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of
beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they
would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us
know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high
comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.


These are the most stable Hobie kayak they make. 39" wide. They fish the
ocean here in the I11s. It may be out of your price range for floating the
local beaches.

On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA

BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.

True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA

BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.


There was a time Canadian $ were worth more than American $. What
happened
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On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:23:21 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA

BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.


There was a time Canadian $ were worth more than American $. What
happened
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I think it's a ploy to make our goods and services appear cheaper to y'all....to improve our trade balance with the US.

True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:23:21 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA

BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.


There was a time Canadian $ were worth more than American $. What
happened
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I think it's a ploy to make our goods and services appear cheaper to y'all....to improve our trade balance with the US.


To bad the goods and services you want come from the U.S. Oh well.
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True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:23:21 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:

Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.

A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA
BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.

There was a time Canadian $ were worth more than American $. What
happened
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I think it's a ploy to make our goods and services appear cheaper to y'all....to improve our trade balance with the US.

Where did you get your economics degree?