On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:25:33 -0400, Alex wrote:

He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though.



Harry's a lousy liar.

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Lousy but prolific.

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:36:38 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same....

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No wake speed on you boat is about 5 mph.

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True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more
than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that
I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet
of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course
they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video.
Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like
the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.

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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with
a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility
trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work.


I kayak fish the ocean. Actually fished my Outback this afternoon, while
wife used one,of the new boats. Caught a few spotted a bay bass. Here in
San Diego, Mission bay, the water is 70 degrees. Northern cAlifornia the
water is 48-55 and I wear a wetsuit.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/19/17 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:24:50 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Wrote in message:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind
more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting
something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a
few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized
lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond
like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean.
Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be
as stable as a low sitting position.

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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Ahhh, you've fallen into Canadian waters, or maybe Maine waters.

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Actually northern Lake Ontario in the early spring, about 25 miles
south of Canada.


When I was a kid, I accompanied my dad to a camp on a lake in New
Hampshire. He had sold them a truckload of rowboats. We got there and I
saw a bunch of kids swimming in the lake. I jumped in...cold doesn't
begin to describe it. On the other hand, I used to go swimming at Revere
Beach when I was a kid, and that water didn't feel that cold. I'm sure
it was, though.


About 1970, I took my race car to the GeorgeTown hill climb. Is near where
gold was originally discovered and the race was up a paved road. After car
broke, we went for a swim in the North Fork of the American River. Kids
said, it's warm. Only reason was not ice, was the water was moving to
fast.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/19/2017 9:36 AM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA

BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.



I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals
and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you
can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service
boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them.




I also have a plastic one. But with the new camper too tall for me to
climb on the roof to haul the yak. The new inflatable yak is a lot faster
than the plastic one. But my Outback weights about 80# fully rigged and
the I11s is about 65#.

True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:22:14 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.
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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work.

Ever price a decent RIB? What happened to the Bayliner?

The Bayliner...??
It's just fine but requires proper launch ramps etc. A bit of trouble to just frolic at the beach with.


Frolic? Donnie White Frolic at the beach? Really? If that doesn't
sound gay.
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On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 07:58:50 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:22:14 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.
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rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work.

Ever price a decent RIB? What happened to the Bayliner?

The Bayliner...??
It's just fine but requires proper launch ramps etc. A bit of trouble to just frolic at the beach with.


Frolic? Donnie White Frolic at the beach? Really? If that doesn't
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Y'all seem to have "gay" on your mind quite a bit, Justine.
Sure explains a lot.....

On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 01:06:54 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more
than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that
I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet
of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course
they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video.
Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like
the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.

==
Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with
a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility
trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work.


I kayak fish the ocean. Actually fished my Outback this afternoon, while
wife used one,of the new boats. Caught a few spotted a bay bass. Here in
San Diego, Mission bay, the water is 70 degrees. Northern cAlifornia the
water is 48-55 and I wear a wetsuit.

For what I want it for...a plain paddle style sit-on kayak might be the simplest.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:51:44 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though.


I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could
bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get
the taxes then. (same as here)

Do those damn things need to be registered?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/19/2017 2:45 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:06:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/19/2017 10:30 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA

BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.

https://www.ques****ersports.com/201...le--c-1010.htm

You could probably get Harry to drive it up to you and save the tax up there.



He'd have to "declare" at the border with customs. That's when they get
you.


Couldn't Harry say he was just going to go fishing with Don up in NS? Or do you think Harry would
have to pay something.



He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though.


He'd get caught in a heartbeat. Wouldn't take a sharp agent to do it.