True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 11:23:21 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:

Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving
overcharges.

A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA
BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here.

There was a time Canadian $ were worth more than American $. What
happened
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I think it's a ploy to make our goods and services appear cheaper to y'all....to improve our trade balance with the US.

Where did you get your economics degree?

True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.
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Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work.

Ever price a decent RIB? What happened to the Bayliner?

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/19/2017 2:45 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:06:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/19/2017 10:30 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:


Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the
camper rack,
so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks.
Test drove
the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the
new Mirage
drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the
inflatable is 35
for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in
it's bag in
an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50#
limit saving
overcharges.


A video of the I11s
https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA

BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50%
more expensive here.

https://www.ques****ersports.com/201...le--c-1010.htm


You could probably get Harry to drive it up to you and save the tax
up there.



He'd have to "declare" at the border with customs. That's when they
get
you.


Couldn't Harry say he was just going to go fishing with Don up in NS?
Or do you think Harry would
have to pay something.



He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though.



Harry's a lousy liar.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:15:31 -0400,
wrote:

Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

The guides on white water raft trips use kayaks so that may not be
exactly true. They have the boots over the cockpit that tie around
their waist so the boat will not fill up and they will roll one for
the tourists for kicks.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:18:20 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work.

I lived with a 12' jon boat and a 7.5 merc here for the first few
months while I was finding my way around and it would fit inside my
van. I could move that around pretty easily by myself. I even got a
couple miles offshore to the reef in the keys with it and all around
the gulf side (accompanied by other boats). They also used it for a
platform for a hookah towed behind a bigger boat.
I still use it for maintenance on my pontoon when I am on the lift.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:29:46 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

I have something very close to what you describe. It's for sale
but unfortunately it's in Florida.

If he can wait until spring there should be plenty of Canadians who
could take it up there.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals
and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you
can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service
boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them.


Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do
slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a
minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and
I nail it.

On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:22:14 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Interesting!
Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position.
===

Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in
rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose
breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know.

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Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work.

Ever price a decent RIB? What happened to the Bayliner?

The Bayliner...??
It's just fine but requires proper launch ramps etc. A bit of trouble to just frolic at the beach with.

On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:16:41 UTC-3, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals
and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you
can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service
boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them.


Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do
slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a
minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and
I nail it.

I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same....

On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though.


I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could
bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get
the taxes then. (same as here)