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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:25:33 -0400, Alex wrote:
He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though. Harry's a lousy liar. === Lousy but prolific. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:36:38 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same.... === No wake speed on you boat is about 5 mph. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Interesting! Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position. == Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work. I kayak fish the ocean. Actually fished my Outback this afternoon, while wife used one,of the new boats. Caught a few spotted a bay bass. Here in San Diego, Mission bay, the water is 70 degrees. Northern cAlifornia the water is 48-55 and I wear a wetsuit. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/19/2017 9:36 AM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote: Bill wrote: Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack, so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35 for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving overcharges. A video of the I11s https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here. I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them. I also have a plastic one. But with the new camper too tall for me to climb on the roof to haul the yak. The new inflatable yak is a lot faster than the plastic one. But my Outback weights about 80# fully rigged and the I11s is about 65#. |
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True North Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:22:14 UTC-3, Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Interesting! Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position. === Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work. Ever price a decent RIB? What happened to the Bayliner? The Bayliner...?? It's just fine but requires proper launch ramps etc. A bit of trouble to just frolic at the beach with. Frolic? Donnie White Frolic at the beach? Really? If that doesn't sound gay. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 07:58:50 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:22:14 UTC-3, Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Interesting! Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position. === Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work. Ever price a decent RIB? What happened to the Bayliner? The Bayliner...?? It's just fine but requires proper launch ramps etc. A bit of trouble to just frolic at the beach with. Frolic? Donnie White Frolic at the beach? Really? If that doesn't sound gay. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ Y'all seem to have "gay" on your mind quite a bit, Justine. Sure explains a lot..... |
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On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 01:06:54 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 12:15:36 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: Interesting! Seems to me that blow up boats would be pushed around by the wind more than heavier solid boats. I've been thinking of getting something that I could take to local beaches to float along within a few hundred feet of beaches and maybe occasionally on a medium sized lake. Of course they would be great on a smooth as glass mill pond like in the video. Let us know how those things work in the ocean. Gotta admit, I like the high comfortable seating although it can't be as stable as a low sitting position. == Hobie might disagree but in my opinion no canoe or kayak is safe in rough water, especially cold water. It doesn't take long to lose breathing abilty in those circumstances. Don't ask me how I know. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Maybe a more sensible option would be a 8' Zodiac type yacht tender with a 3 hp motor. I want something I can easily manhandle up onto my utility trailer and then remove onto a stand when the trailer does it's real work. I kayak fish the ocean. Actually fished my Outback this afternoon, while wife used one,of the new boats. Caught a few spotted a bay bass. Here in San Diego, Mission bay, the water is 70 degrees. Northern cAlifornia the water is 48-55 and I wear a wetsuit. For what I want it for...a plain paddle style sit-on kayak might be the simplest. |
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 9/19/2017 2:45 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:06:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 9/19/2017 10:30 AM, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:05:31 UTC-3, Bill wrote: Bill wrote: Decided my Hobie Outback was not going o ever be loaded on the camper rack, so today went out and bought two Hobie I11S inflatables kayaks. Test drove the demo and wife and I both liked it. One cool thing is the new Mirage drives have a reverse. Old Outback is about 75# and the inflatable is 35 for the kayak and 65 fully assembled. Can check the kayak in it's bag in an airplane. Without the pedals, and seat, is under the 50# limit saving overcharges. A video of the I11s https://youtu.be/8hjgTrKdgPA BTW..how much do they cost down there...I expect they'll be 50% more expensive here. https://www.ques****ersports.com/201...le--c-1010.htm You could probably get Harry to drive it up to you and save the tax up there. He'd have to "declare" at the border with customs. That's when they get you. Couldn't Harry say he was just going to go fishing with Don up in NS? Or do you think Harry would have to pay something. He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though. He'd get caught in a heartbeat. Wouldn't take a sharp agent to do it. |
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On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 09:35:40 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though. I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? If there is no trailer and the motor is less than 10 hp. I don't see any problem. |
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H
wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. |
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:53:45 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 09:35:40 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though. I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? If there is no trailer and the motor is less than 10 hp. I don't see any problem. Then Harry could buy it here and deliver it. Good deal. You wouldn't have to pay all the duties, and it would give you and Harry a good chance to deepen your relationship. |
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On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:28:23 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 05:53:45 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 09:35:40 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:51:44 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: He could try lying. Canadian Customs are pretty sharp though. I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? If there is no trailer and the motor is less than 10 hp. I don't see any problem. Then Harry could buy it here and deliver it. Good deal. You wouldn't have to pay all the duties, and it would give you and Harry a good chance to deepen your relationship. If the object is made in the US, there is little concern about duties anyway thanks to NAFTA. Now if the Trumpster Dumpster screws that up...... |
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On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? |
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True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:16:41 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them. Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and I nail it. I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same.... The wake from the Legend was likely due to parts falling off, eh? |
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. |
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On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, Â* wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA.Â* Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards)Â* but then governor Michael DukakisÂ* realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable. :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. |
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On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, Â* wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA.Â* Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards)Â* but then governor Michael DukakisÂ* realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable.Â* :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction. I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day) only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard. I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. |
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On 9/21/17 8:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA.Â* Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards)Â* but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable.Â* :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction.Â* I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day)Â* only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard.Â* I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. I remember Ted from the big New England sports/boat shows in Boston. Sears had him set up at a big indoor pool set up so he could demonstrate casting and flyfishing and, of course, plug their lines of fishing gear. Speaking of Boston, do you have any memory of the National Shawmut Bank, with the native American spokesperson? Active advertiser on TV. My dad did his floorplanning with them for at least a decade. A couple of days after we buried my dad, I was at the boat store with our family lawyer and accountant when the representative from Shawmut showed up. He wanted to close the floorplan and collect close to a million dollars for the boats and outboards in the showroom and storage building. My dad's lawyer, the son of old family friends, told the bankster he had until the weekend to send his trucks to pick up the boats and outboards, and after that he was going to charge the bank $1000 a day rent for storage. The bankster left, and a few days later, the lawyer got a letter from the bank offering us six months with no bank interest to sell off the merchandise. I "hired" our accountant, another old family friend, to supervise the sales of everything in the store, and he did it, in about three months. After that, the three of us, lawyer, accountant, and DC advertising guy, set up an entity to knock down the boat store, rebuild a strip mall, and rent out individual stores. The sad thing is, the three of us had been urging my dad to do the same thing for several years. He had health issues and didn't need the aggravation of running a retail operation. We were trying to get him to retire, sell out, and move to a nice, easy retirement in Florida with my mom. His partners in the separate marina operation in Milford made an offer to buy out his shares within a month after his death. My mom ended up moving to Florida and had a nice retirement for the 25 years left on her ticker. |
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On 9/21/2017 8:27 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/21/17 8:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA.Â* Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards)Â* but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable.Â* :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction.Â* I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day)Â* only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard.Â* I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. I remember Ted from the big New England sports/boat shows in Boston. Sears had him set up at a big indoor pool set up so he could demonstrate casting and flyfishing and, of course, plug their lines of fishing gear. Speaking of Boston, do you have any memory of the National Shawmut Bank, with the native American spokesperson? Active advertiser on TV. My dad did his floorplanning with them for at least a decade. A couple of days after we buried my dad, I was at the boat store with our family lawyer and accountant when the representative from Shawmut showed up. He wanted to close the floorplan and collect close to a million dollars for the boats and outboards in the showroom and storage building. My dad's lawyer, the son of old family friends, told the bankster he had until the weekend to send his trucks to pick up the boats and outboards, and after that he was going to charge the bank $1000 a day rent for storage. The bankster left, and a few days later, the lawyer got a letter from the bank offering us six months with no bank interest to sell off the merchandise. I "hired" our accountant, another old family friend, to supervise the sales of everything in the store, and he did it, in about three months. After that, the three of us, lawyer, accountant, and DC advertising guy, set up an entity to knock down the boat store, rebuild a strip mall, and rent out individual stores. The sad thing is, the three of us had been urging my dad to do the same thing for several years. He had health issues and didn't need the aggravation of running a retail operation. We were trying to get him to retire, sell out, and move to a nice, easy retirement in Florida with my mom. His partners in the separate marina operation in Milford made an offer to buy out his shares within a month after his death. My mom ended up moving to Florida and had a nice retirement for the 25 years left on her ticker. I do remember Shawmut Bank. My grandmother used to do her banking at a big, old Shawmut Bank in Quincy Center and I accompanied her there many times. This was in the 50's and I was just a small fry. "Shawmut" was the native American Indian name for the general area that is now Boston. The Shawmut Bank logo was an Indian with braided hair and a single feather. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/National_Shawmut_Bank_-_Stierch.jpg |
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:27:09 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/21/17 8:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA.* Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards)* but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable.* :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction.* I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day)* only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard.* I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. I remember Ted from the big New England sports/boat shows in Boston. Sears had him set up at a big indoor pool set up so he could demonstrate casting and flyfishing and, of course, plug their lines of fishing gear. Speaking of Boston, do you have any memory of the National Shawmut Bank, with the native American spokesperson? Active advertiser on TV. My dad did his floorplanning with them for at least a decade. A couple of days after we buried my dad, I was at the boat store with our family lawyer and accountant when the representative from Shawmut showed up. He wanted to close the floorplan and collect close to a million dollars for the boats and outboards in the showroom and storage building. My dad's lawyer, the son of old family friends, told the bankster he had until the weekend to send his trucks to pick up the boats and outboards, and after that he was going to charge the bank $1000 a day rent for storage. The bankster left, and a few days later, the lawyer got a letter from the bank offering us six months with no bank interest to sell off the merchandise. I "hired" our accountant, another old family friend, to supervise the sales of everything in the store, and he did it, in about three months. After that, the three of us, lawyer, accountant, and DC advertising guy, set up an entity to knock down the boat store, rebuild a strip mall, and rent out individual stores. The sad thing is, the three of us had been urging my dad to do the same thing for several years. He had health issues and didn't need the aggravation of running a retail operation. We were trying to get him to retire, sell out, and move to a nice, easy retirement in Florida with my mom. His partners in the separate marina operation in Milford made an offer to buy out his shares within a month after his death. My mom ended up moving to Florida and had a nice retirement for the 25 years left on her ticker. Gosh. Why didn't you just buy that Maryland Red Barn with all your money rather than lie about it? |
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On 21 Sep 2017 01:39:32 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:
Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:16:41 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them. Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and I nail it. I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same.... The wake from the Legend was likely due to parts falling off, eh? Fourth grade Alex is back. No, just providing Donnee the results from what he's sowed. |
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On Thursday, 21 September 2017 10:12:47 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On 21 Sep 2017 01:39:32 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:16:41 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them. Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and I nail it. I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same.... The wake from the Legend was likely due to parts falling off, eh? Fourth grade Alex is back. No, just providing Donnee the results from what he's sowed. If y'all and your ilk are the results of what I sow....I'd best leave the farming to others. |
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True North Wrote in message:
On Thursday, 21 September 2017 10:12:47 UTC-3, John H wrote: On 21 Sep 2017 01:39:32 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:16:41 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them. Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and I nail it. I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same.... The wake from the Legend was likely due to parts falling off, eh? Fourth grade Alex is back. No, just providing Donnee the results from what he's sowed. If y'all and your ilk are the results of what I sow....I'd best leave the farming to others. You got manure under your fingernails. It ain't going away till you fire Krause as your front man. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 06:43:18 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Thursday, 21 September 2017 10:12:47 UTC-3, John H wrote: On 21 Sep 2017 01:39:32 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote: Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:16:41 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them. Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and I nail it. I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same.... The wake from the Legend was likely due to parts falling off, eh? Fourth grade Alex is back. No, just providing Donnee the results from what he's sowed. If y'all and your ilk are the results of what I sow....I'd best leave the farming to others. That's a pretty good idea, Don. Either let someone else do your farming or change the seed you sow. |
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:24:59 -0400, wrote:
Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. === Most states it's any mechanical propulsion at all. It's another tax and imposition of official bureaucracy. Many years ago my wife and I had a 7 ft dinghy with a 2 hp Evinrude. It strongly resembled a little bathtub kiddy boat. We once left it tied to the riverbank below Gillette Castle in Connecticut while we went for a hike and visit to tthe castle. When we came back, two Connecticut Fish and Wildlife officers jumped out from behind trees and gave us a very stern lecture about the rules. We were caught in their stakeout of our nefarious craft. http://www.ct.gov/deep/cwp/view.asp?a=2716&q=325204&deepNav_GID=1650%20 --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Alex wrote: True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 22:16:41 UTC-3, wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:04:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I had a Hobie rigid hull (plastic) version of this. It had the pedals and "flippers". It was amazing how fast you can get them going if you can pedal hard, fast and long enough. I used to race the launch service boats in the harbor with mine and could often keep up with them. Those things can keep up with "hull speed" on my pontoon and when I do slow down to give them a break they act like I want to race. After a minute of trying to get by them without rocking them, "Surf's up" and I nail it. I find the reverse chine hull on my Bayliner kicks up a bigger wake when I try to go by slowly at 8 to 10 mph. Even my Legend did the same.... The wake from the Legend was likely due to parts falling off, eh? Fourth grade Alex is back. Coming from you, that is hilarious. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA. Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards) but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable. :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction. I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day) only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard. I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. As a kid, I learned to water ski behind a 9.9HP. I was a few pounds lighter then. |
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John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:27:09 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 8:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA. Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards) but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable. :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction. I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day) only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard. I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. I remember Ted from the big New England sports/boat shows in Boston. Sears had him set up at a big indoor pool set up so he could demonstrate casting and flyfishing and, of course, plug their lines of fishing gear. Speaking of Boston, do you have any memory of the National Shawmut Bank, with the native American spokesperson? Active advertiser on TV. My dad did his floorplanning with them for at least a decade. A couple of days after we buried my dad, I was at the boat store with our family lawyer and accountant when the representative from Shawmut showed up. He wanted to close the floorplan and collect close to a million dollars for the boats and outboards in the showroom and storage building. My dad's lawyer, the son of old family friends, told the bankster he had until the weekend to send his trucks to pick up the boats and outboards, and after that he was going to charge the bank $1000 a day rent for storage. The bankster left, and a few days later, the lawyer got a letter from the bank offering us six months with no bank interest to sell off the merchandise. I "hired" our accountant, another old family friend, to supervise the sales of everything in the store, and he did it, in about three months. After that, the three of us, lawyer, accountant, and DC advertising guy, set up an entity to knock down the boat store, rebuild a strip mall, and rent out individual stores. The sad thing is, the three of us had been urging my dad to do the same thing for several years. He had health issues and didn't need the aggravation of running a retail operation. We were trying to get him to retire, sell out, and move to a nice, easy retirement in Florida with my mom. His partners in the separate marina operation in Milford made an offer to buy out his shares within a month after his death. My mom ended up moving to Florida and had a nice retirement for the 25 years left on her ticker. Gosh. Why didn't you just buy that Maryland Red Barn with all your money rather than lie about it? Or the Ducati? Or the twin-engine trawler? |
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On 9/21/2017 8:12 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA.Â* Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards)Â* but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable.Â* :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction.Â* I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day)Â* only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard.Â* I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. As a kid, I learned to water ski behind a 9.9HP.Â* I was a few pounds lighter then. Yup. I was able to get a friend (lightweight girl) up using the 12 foot aluminum boat with the 5 horse Johnson. She plowed a lot, but was technically skiing. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/21/2017 8:12 PM, Alex wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA.Â* Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards)Â* but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable.Â* :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction.Â* I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day)Â* only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard.Â* I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. As a kid, I learned to water ski behind a 9.9HP.Â* I was a few pounds lighter then. Yup. I was able to get a friend (lightweight girl) up using the 12 foot aluminum boat with the 5 horse Johnson. She plowed a lot, but was technically skiing. We were high performance. 30 hp on a 14' wooden boat. I actually learned to ski behind a Cadillac powered ski boat. My dad's good buddy ran a boat shop and raced boats. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/21/2017 8:12 PM, Alex wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 7:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/21/17 7:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/21/2017 2:24 AM, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:16:24 UTC-3, wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:40 -0400, John H wrote: I am not sure why customs would care. If you were visiting you could bring a boat and if Don tried to register it up there they would get the taxes then. (same as here) Do those damn things need to be registered? I see canoes down here with Canadian numbers on them. Maybe it is just if you ever want to hang a motor on one tho. Who would want to put a 10hp or greater outboard on a canoe? Dunno, I have just seen them with numbers. I assumed it was *any* motor. That is true here. I had to put numbers on my jon boat and I only had a 7.5 on it. Same here in MA. Any size motor, even an electric trolling motor, on a boat or canoe requires it to be registered and display numbers. I think years ago anything under 10 hp was exempt (Thus the popularity of 9.9 hp outboards) but then governor Michael Dukakis realized how much revenue they were losing and pushed the MA legislature to change the laws. Another reason for the "under 10 hp" popularity, at least in Connecticut, back in the day, a 10 hp outboard was the max allowed on some small lakes. Mercury Outboards, naturally, came up with a 10 hp outboard that was closer to 20 hp, but it was labeled 10 hp and was lake acceptable. :) That same outboard was used to power small racing hydroplanes and "utility" boats. Many of the smaller lakes and ponds still have that hp restriction. I remember reading that many of the 9.9hp outboards (I always think of Ted Williams and the Sears outboards of the day) only required a change of the jets in the carburetor to produce 15 or more hp. As a kid I had the most fun on a 12 foot aluminum boat from Sears and a 5hp Johnson outboard. I made a tiller extension so I could drive from the middle seat because that's what made it go the fastest. As a kid, I learned to water ski behind a 9.9HP. I was a few pounds lighter then. Yup. I was able to get a friend (lightweight girl) up using the 12 foot aluminum boat with the 5 horse Johnson. She plowed a lot, but was technically skiing. Same thing and I was able to drop a ski and slalom behind that little motor. I never learned how to slalom from the shore or deep water but I didn't have many opportunities to try it. |
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