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A Look At Officer Training In The US Navy and Merchant Marine
On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 12:01:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 8/23/2017 11:02 AM, wrote: This article offers some interesting insights into some of the issues behind the recent naval collisions: http://gcaptain.com/separate-equal-look-officer-training-us-navy-merchant-marine/ They make the point that many, if not most, US naval officers regard sea duty as something that must be endured on the way to higher rank, as opposed to a career goal in and of itself. My wife and I once met a recently promoted US Coast Guard admiral who expressed exactly those sentiments in a conversation with us. We were surprised by both the attitude and the candor but that was probably a reflection of our inexperience with such things. I don't know of anyone who was in the Navy, officer or enlisted, who relished sea duty. === It's easy to understand why, especially for the married guys with families. I know people who are merchant marine officers however who have rotated on and off sea duty for their entire careers and seem to do OK with it. Of course they are very well compensated and completely off duty when not at sea. Maybe the navy should consider having something similar for a couple of officers on every ship who would be career watch standers. If our current navy deck officers are spending most of their time in open water they really aren't getting enough practice with traffic avoidance. Of course a career watch stander would have the same issue to a certain extent. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 07:17:29 -0400, John H
wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:49:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:09:08 -0400, wrote: I don't know of anyone who was in the Navy, officer or enlisted, who relished sea duty. === It's easy to understand why, especially for the married guys with families I believe the military is best suited to single people. Otherwise there is always going to be a conflict. I agree if you have a nice Pentagon, Meade or Andrews billet, you are just another commuter but like I said, why bother with the military at that point, just get a job with a DoD contractor. Don't know about Meade or Andrews, but most Pentagon billets are not nice unless you're a junior enlisted. The only nice thing about it is not fighting rush hour traffic 'cause you're going in at o-dark-thirty and coming home well after sunset. Like I said, a commuter. Andrews or Meade were a pretty good gig because there was plenty of housing nearby that a GI could afford and the traffic was easy. I assume Belvior is the same but I really never knew anyone there. We also knew a lot of Navy guys at NAS, NRC (Anacostia) and Indian Head. Bolling had people from all of the services doing something. One guy we knew was in the Marines working there but I also knew a few Air Force guys there. If you lived in SE DC or "near in" PG county, everyone either worked for USCS or the military. At places like the gun factory (now the Washington navy yard) there were far more civilians than military. The last actual "gun" activity was re sleeving the 16" guns on the Iowa. That was in the early 60s. My father was working some kind of intelligence job there but he never elaborated beyond saying he did "planning". |
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A Look At Officer Training In The US Navy and Merchant Marine
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 11:22:10 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 07:17:29 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 19:49:39 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:09:08 -0400, wrote: I don't know of anyone who was in the Navy, officer or enlisted, who relished sea duty. === It's easy to understand why, especially for the married guys with families I believe the military is best suited to single people. Otherwise there is always going to be a conflict. I agree if you have a nice Pentagon, Meade or Andrews billet, you are just another commuter but like I said, why bother with the military at that point, just get a job with a DoD contractor. Don't know about Meade or Andrews, but most Pentagon billets are not nice unless you're a junior enlisted. The only nice thing about it is not fighting rush hour traffic 'cause you're going in at o-dark-thirty and coming home well after sunset. Like I said, a commuter. Andrews or Meade were a pretty good gig because there was plenty of housing nearby that a GI could afford and the traffic was easy. I assume Belvior is the same but I really never knew anyone there. We also knew a lot of Navy guys at NAS, NRC (Anacostia) and Indian Head. Bolling had people from all of the services doing something. One guy we knew was in the Marines working there but I also knew a few Air Force guys there. If you lived in SE DC or "near in" PG county, everyone either worked for USCS or the military. At places like the gun factory (now the Washington navy yard) there were far more civilians than military. The last actual "gun" activity was re sleeving the 16" guns on the Iowa. That was in the early 60s. My father was working some kind of intelligence job there but he never elaborated beyond saying he did "planning". Well, now you know someone. I was stationed at Belvoir for four years, 1972-1976, not counting OCS there in '67. |
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