On 8/15/2017 11:12 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:31:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 5:16 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Whatever you do do not give them a credit card number or they will renew your service at the full going rate.

When I first got the service I told them I did not have any credit cards and they would have to invoice me. Has worked well since.



Good advice. Some of these services are almost impossible to cancel. I
noticed on the last email they sent me to sign up there was an option
for credit card or invoice for the payment. I'll opt for the invoice.
That way, if I don't want to renew in a year, I'll just ignore it.

One other thing you need to know if you go the invoice route. Sirius will not stop service when the contract is up. They will let it go on as you accrue costs to them. In my case I marked on the calendar when my current subscription ends. Mine ends on November 16th. I will be calling them about a week prior to either extend if I get a price I like or end the service.



I noted on the latest offer that you have to call them to cancel. I
suppose you are put on hold for an hour and then have to listen to a
sales pitch to keep your account.

On 8/16/17 5:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 11:12 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:31:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 5:16 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Whatever you do do not give them a credit card number or they will
renew your service at the full going rate.

When I first got the service I told them I did not have any credit
cards and they would have to invoice me. Has worked well since.



Good advice. Some of these services are almost impossible to cancel. I
noticed on the last email they sent me to sign up there was an option
for credit card or invoice for the payment. I'll opt for the invoice.
That way, if I don't want to renew in a year, I'll just ignore it.

One other thing you need to know if you go the invoice route. Sirius
will not stop service when the contract is up. They will let it go on
as you accrue costs to them. In my case I marked on the calendar when
my current subscription ends. Mine ends on November 16th. I will be
calling them about a week prior to either extend if I get a price I
like or end the service.



I noted on the latest offer that you have to call them to cancel. I
suppose you are put on hold for an hour and then have to listen to a
sales pitch to keep your account.


Are you out of range of all the great FM stations in the Boston area,
including the non-commercial ones? I'm really at a loss to figure out
why SIRIUS is popular, especially since you have to pay for it and FM
radio is free to the listener. And I'm sure you have a iPod or iPhone or
similar device on which you can store the music you like. I have 20GB of
music on mine, about 4000 "songs," including all nine of Beethoven's
symphonies in orchestral and piano versions, a lot of Mozart, Schubert,
all sorts of folk and rock, even a little (forgive me) bluegrass. So,
what's the deal with SIRIUS?

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:46:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/16/17 5:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 11:12 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:31:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 5:16 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Whatever you do do not give them a credit card number or they will
renew your service at the full going rate.

When I first got the service I told them I did not have any credit
cards and they would have to invoice me. Has worked well since.



Good advice. Some of these services are almost impossible to cancel. I
noticed on the last email they sent me to sign up there was an option
for credit card or invoice for the payment. I'll opt for the invoice.
That way, if I don't want to renew in a year, I'll just ignore it.

One other thing you need to know if you go the invoice route. Sirius
will not stop service when the contract is up. They will let it go on
as you accrue costs to them. In my case I marked on the calendar when
my current subscription ends. Mine ends on November 16th. I will be
calling them about a week prior to either extend if I get a price I
like or end the service.



I noted on the latest offer that you have to call them to cancel. I
suppose you are put on hold for an hour and then have to listen to a
sales pitch to keep your account.


Are you out of range of all the great FM stations in the Boston area,
including the non-commercial ones? I'm really at a loss to figure out
why SIRIUS is popular, especially since you have to pay for it and FM
radio is free to the listener. And I'm sure you have a iPod or iPhone or
similar device on which you can store the music you like. I have 20GB of
music on mine, about 4000 "songs," including all nine of Beethoven's
symphonies in orchestral and piano versions, a lot of Mozart, Schubert,
all sorts of folk and rock, even a little (forgive me) bluegrass. So,
what's the deal with SIRIUS?

If you had it, you'd understand.

We understand you have more and better than anyone else. We're just willing to settle for a bit less
than the absolute finest of anything available, which you already possess.

How're those twin Volvo diesels running, eh Krause?

On 8/16/2017 6:52 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:46:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/16/17 5:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 11:12 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:31:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 5:16 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Whatever you do do not give them a credit card number or they will
renew your service at the full going rate.

When I first got the service I told them I did not have any credit
cards and they would have to invoice me. Has worked well since.



Good advice. Some of these services are almost impossible to cancel. I
noticed on the last email they sent me to sign up there was an option
for credit card or invoice for the payment. I'll opt for the invoice.
That way, if I don't want to renew in a year, I'll just ignore it.

One other thing you need to know if you go the invoice route. Sirius
will not stop service when the contract is up. They will let it go on
as you accrue costs to them. In my case I marked on the calendar when
my current subscription ends. Mine ends on November 16th. I will be
calling them about a week prior to either extend if I get a price I
like or end the service.



I noted on the latest offer that you have to call them to cancel. I
suppose you are put on hold for an hour and then have to listen to a
sales pitch to keep your account.


Are you out of range of all the great FM stations in the Boston area,
including the non-commercial ones? I'm really at a loss to figure out
why SIRIUS is popular, especially since you have to pay for it and FM
radio is free to the listener. And I'm sure you have a iPod or iPhone or
similar device on which you can store the music you like. I have 20GB of
music on mine, about 4000 "songs," including all nine of Beethoven's
symphonies in orchestral and piano versions, a lot of Mozart, Schubert,
all sorts of folk and rock, even a little (forgive me) bluegrass. So,
what's the deal with SIRIUS?

If you had it, you'd understand.

We understand you have more and better than anyone else. We're just willing to settle for a bit less
than the absolute finest of anything available, which you already possess.

How're those twin Volvo diesels running, eh Krause?


I am out of range of any HD FM stations unless I am traveling somewhere
which isn't very often. I have little or no interest in spending the
time to copy and store gigs upon gigs of music on any kind of drive,
including my cell phone. In the past I've learned that I only listen to
my favorites most of the time anyway.

I have a USB powered hard drive that some friends put together for my
birthday that has just about every group, band and song ever recorded. I
think it's a 200 Gig drive and it's just about full. I listen to it
once in a great while.

I like Sirius mainly due to the variety of programing it offers. I can
listen to music from just about any decade or style of interest, talk
shows, baseball games, football and some comedy channels. It even has
the audio of MSNBC, CNN and FoxNews if you get the itch to tune in.

It offers variety which is what I like.

On 8/16/17 7:23 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/16/2017 6:52 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:46:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/16/17 5:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 11:12 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:31:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 5:16 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Whatever you do do not give them a credit card number or they will
renew your service at the full going rate.

When I first got the service I told them I did not have any credit
cards and they would have to invoice me. Has worked well since.



Good advice. Some of these services are almost impossible to
cancel. I
noticed on the last email they sent me to sign up there was an option
for credit card or invoice for the payment. I'll opt for the
invoice.
That way, if I don't want to renew in a year, I'll just ignore it.

One other thing you need to know if you go the invoice route. Sirius
will not stop service when the contract is up. They will let it go on
as you accrue costs to them. In my case I marked on the calendar when
my current subscription ends. Mine ends on November 16th. I will be
calling them about a week prior to either extend if I get a price I
like or end the service.



I noted on the latest offer that you have to call them to cancel. I
suppose you are put on hold for an hour and then have to listen to a
sales pitch to keep your account.


Are you out of range of all the great FM stations in the Boston area,
including the non-commercial ones? I'm really at a loss to figure out
why SIRIUS is popular, especially since you have to pay for it and FM
radio is free to the listener. And I'm sure you have a iPod or iPhone or
similar device on which you can store the music you like. I have 20GB of
music on mine, about 4000 "songs," including all nine of Beethoven's
symphonies in orchestral and piano versions, a lot of Mozart, Schubert,
all sorts of folk and rock, even a little (forgive me) bluegrass. So,
what's the deal with SIRIUS?

If you had it, you'd understand.

We understand you have more and better than anyone else. We're just
willing to settle for a bit less
than the absolute finest of anything available, which you already
possess.

How're those twin Volvo diesels running, eh Krause?


I am out of range of any HD FM stations unless I am traveling somewhere
which isn't very often. I have little or no interest in spending the
time to copy and store gigs upon gigs of music on any kind of drive,
including my cell phone. In the past I've learned that I only listen to
my favorites most of the time anyway.

I have a USB powered hard drive that some friends put together for my
birthday that has just about every group, band and song ever recorded. I
think it's a 200 Gig drive and it's just about full. I listen to it
once in a great while.

I like Sirius mainly due to the variety of programing it offers. I can
listen to music from just about any decade or style of interest, talk
shows, baseball games, football and some comedy channels. It even has
the audio of MSNBC, CNN and FoxNews if you get the itch to tune in.

It offers variety which is what I like.



OK. We get a few HD stations out of DC and Baltimore, and that works for
me. We got the same SIRIUS freebies with the truck and car, and I tried
it for a while and found nothing that interested me enough to want to
pay for the service, especially with two pretty good HD classical
stations within earshot. I don't watch much cable news on TV, so I don't
think listening to the audio feed in my car would do much for me.

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 07:23:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/16/2017 6:52 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:46:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/16/17 5:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 11:12 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:31:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 5:16 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Whatever you do do not give them a credit card number or they will
renew your service at the full going rate.

When I first got the service I told them I did not have any credit
cards and they would have to invoice me. Has worked well since.



Good advice. Some of these services are almost impossible to cancel. I
noticed on the last email they sent me to sign up there was an option
for credit card or invoice for the payment. I'll opt for the invoice.
That way, if I don't want to renew in a year, I'll just ignore it.

One other thing you need to know if you go the invoice route. Sirius
will not stop service when the contract is up. They will let it go on
as you accrue costs to them. In my case I marked on the calendar when
my current subscription ends. Mine ends on November 16th. I will be
calling them about a week prior to either extend if I get a price I
like or end the service.



I noted on the latest offer that you have to call them to cancel. I
suppose you are put on hold for an hour and then have to listen to a
sales pitch to keep your account.


Are you out of range of all the great FM stations in the Boston area,
including the non-commercial ones? I'm really at a loss to figure out
why SIRIUS is popular, especially since you have to pay for it and FM
radio is free to the listener. And I'm sure you have a iPod or iPhone or
similar device on which you can store the music you like. I have 20GB of
music on mine, about 4000 "songs," including all nine of Beethoven's
symphonies in orchestral and piano versions, a lot of Mozart, Schubert,
all sorts of folk and rock, even a little (forgive me) bluegrass. So,
what's the deal with SIRIUS?

If you had it, you'd understand.

We understand you have more and better than anyone else. We're just willing to settle for a bit less
than the absolute finest of anything available, which you already possess.

How're those twin Volvo diesels running, eh Krause?


I am out of range of any HD FM stations unless I am traveling somewhere
which isn't very often. I have little or no interest in spending the
time to copy and store gigs upon gigs of music on any kind of drive,
including my cell phone. In the past I've learned that I only listen to
my favorites most of the time anyway.

I have a USB powered hard drive that some friends put together for my
birthday that has just about every group, band and song ever recorded. I
think it's a 200 Gig drive and it's just about full. I listen to it
once in a great while.

I like Sirius mainly due to the variety of programing it offers. I can
listen to music from just about any decade or style of interest, talk
shows, baseball games, football and some comedy channels. It even has
the audio of MSNBC, CNN and FoxNews if you get the itch to tune in.

It offers variety which is what I like.


Yesterday I came back from Gettysburg, about 100 miles. It wasn't until I got within about 80 miles
that I could pick up the FM news station I listen to regularly broadcasting from DC. It's for damn
sure I couldn't get any Boston FM stations, like, I'm sure, Harry does.

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:58:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

Yesterday I came back from Gettysburg, about 100 miles. It wasn't until I got within about 80 miles
that I could pick up the FM news station I listen to regularly broadcasting from DC. It's for damn
sure I couldn't get any Boston FM stations, like, I'm sure, Harry does.

FM is pretty much line of sight. I know that even here in Florida
where there are no real hills FM is tough. On a clear night I can get
the FM station out of Marathon (Fl Keys) but that is across the water
about 100 miles. I start losing the Tampa stations and FT Myers
stations about 70 miles away. There is a dead zone around Venice where
I don't get either of them.
Now if you are talking AM, the clear channel 50KW stations can be
heard 1000 miles away at night. There used to only be a handful of
them but the last time I looked there are a **** load of them. I guess
as AM popularity faded, they started allowing more big ones.
Unfortunately it seems most AM is either sports, news or Spanish.

On 8/16/2017 11:24 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:58:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

Yesterday I came back from Gettysburg, about 100 miles. It wasn't until I got within about 80 miles
that I could pick up the FM news station I listen to regularly broadcasting from DC. It's for damn
sure I couldn't get any Boston FM stations, like, I'm sure, Harry does.

FM is pretty much line of sight. I know that even here in Florida
where there are no real hills FM is tough. On a clear night I can get
the FM station out of Marathon (Fl Keys) but that is across the water
about 100 miles. I start losing the Tampa stations and FT Myers
stations about 70 miles away. There is a dead zone around Venice where
I don't get either of them.
Now if you are talking AM, the clear channel 50KW stations can be
heard 1000 miles away at night. There used to only be a handful of
them but the last time I looked there are a **** load of them. I guess
as AM popularity faded, they started allowing more big ones.
Unfortunately it seems most AM is either sports, news or Spanish.


HD FM range is much less than regular FM.

WBZ in Boston is one of the original clear channel stations. I picked
it up in Denver Colorado at night. Obviously skip.

wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:58:37 -0400, John H
wrote:

Yesterday I came back from Gettysburg, about 100 miles. It wasn't until
I got within about 80 miles
that I could pick up the FM news station I listen to regularly
broadcasting from DC. It's for damn
sure I couldn't get any Boston FM stations, like, I'm sure, Harry does.

FM is pretty much line of sight. I know that even here in Florida
where there are no real hills FM is tough. On a clear night I can get
the FM station out of Marathon (Fl Keys) but that is across the water
about 100 miles. I start losing the Tampa stations and FT Myers
stations about 70 miles away. There is a dead zone around Venice where
I don't get either of them.
Now if you are talking AM, the clear channel 50KW stations can be
heard 1000 miles away at night. There used to only be a handful of
them but the last time I looked there are a **** load of them. I guess
as AM popularity faded, they started allowing more big ones.
Unfortunately it seems most AM is either sports, news or Spanish.



I like the comedy channels on Sirius, and driving to Los Angeles there is a
very good 40-60's station, but only for part of the way. Other than that
it is talk stations and Spanish language stations. But being thrifty,
looking for a good deal for the renewal.

On 8/16/17 10:47 AM, justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 07:23:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/16/2017 6:52 AM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 06:46:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/16/17 5:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 11:12 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:31:55 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/15/2017 5:16 PM, RGrew176 wrote:
Whatever you do do not give them a credit card number or they will
renew your service at the full going rate.

When I first got the service I told them I did not have any credit
cards and they would have to invoice me. Has worked well since.



Good advice. Some of these services are almost impossible to cancel. I
noticed on the last email they sent me to sign up there was an option
for credit card or invoice for the payment. I'll opt for the invoice.
That way, if I don't want to renew in a year, I'll just ignore it.

One other thing you need to know if you go the invoice route. Sirius
will not stop service when the contract is up. They will let it go on
as you accrue costs to them. In my case I marked on the calendar when
my current subscription ends. Mine ends on November 16th. I will be
calling them about a week prior to either extend if I get a price I
like or end the service.



I noted on the latest offer that you have to call them to cancel. I
suppose you are put on hold for an hour and then have to listen to a
sales pitch to keep your account.


Are you out of range of all the great FM stations in the Boston area,
including the non-commercial ones? I'm really at a loss to figure out
why SIRIUS is popular, especially since you have to pay for it and FM
radio is free to the listener. And I'm sure you have a iPod or iPhone or
similar device on which you can store the music you like. I have 20GB of
music on mine, about 4000 "songs," including all nine of Beethoven's
symphonies in orchestral and piano versions, a lot of Mozart, Schubert,
all sorts of folk and rock, even a little (forgive me) bluegrass. So,
what's the deal with SIRIUS?

If you had it, you'd understand.

We understand you have more and better than anyone else. We're just willing to settle for a bit less
than the absolute finest of anything available, which you already possess.

How're those twin Volvo diesels running, eh Krause?


I am out of range of any HD FM stations unless I am traveling somewhere
which isn't very often. I have little or no interest in spending the
time to copy and store gigs upon gigs of music on any kind of drive,
including my cell phone. In the past I've learned that I only listen to
my favorites most of the time anyway.

I have a USB powered hard drive that some friends put together for my
birthday that has just about every group, band and song ever recorded. I
think it's a 200 Gig drive and it's just about full. I listen to it
once in a great while.

I like Sirius mainly due to the variety of programing it offers. I can
listen to music from just about any decade or style of interest, talk
shows, baseball games, football and some comedy channels. It even has
the audio of MSNBC, CNN and FoxNews if you get the itch to tune in.

It offers variety which is what I like.


Yesterday I came back from Gettysburg, about 100 miles. It wasn't until I got within about 80 miles
that I could pick up the FM news station I listen to regularly broadcasting from DC. It's for damn
sure I couldn't get any Boston FM stations, like, I'm sure, Harry does.


I am almost convinced that Baldy has, is, does, knows, the best of
everything except he's missing a thing or two or three; a full
head of hair, and probably some strong bones and healthy teeth,
and a sound mind. Other than that he's perrrrrfect.


My hair is thinner on top than I'd like, but it's not bothersome. I
certainly have more natural teeth than Herring has, and my hearing is
pretty good...no hearing aids needed. Plus, I have 20/20 distance vision
in each eye, though I do need reading glasses. No bone problems, either.
But, hey, we know what you look like, from this snapshot of you:

http://tinyurl.com/y9swug9j