On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.

If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.

External drive is always possible.

At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".

I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.

If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.

External drive is always possible.

At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".

I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

You mean like when you're not racing or sailing around Cape Horn?

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.

On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.


We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to
worry about it. Besides, most places have cable.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.


We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to
worry about it. Besides, most places have cable.

This is mostly for the evenings or an occasional rainy day. The main
use is for our tunes.
Cable pretty much sucks everywhere. I prefer a good movie if I am
looking at the TV and what they put out on the cable movie channels
are not that good. I certainly don't want to watch any cable news
channels on vacation. A am also not that interested in watching
commercials.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.


We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to
worry about it. Besides, most places have cable.

That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said:

"I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around."

Do you know what 'truth' is?

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:09 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.


We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to
worry about it. Besides, most places have cable.

That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said:

"I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around."

Do you know what 'truth' is?

Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist
elites.

On 7/13/17 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:09 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.


We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to
worry about it. Besides, most places have cable.

That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said:

"I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around."

Do you know what 'truth' is?

Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist
elites.


I thought I responded...maybe not. I watch some television, mostly
science, animal, nature, history programs, news on public television
stations, and once in a while, cable news shows.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:05:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/13/17 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:09 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you?

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.

Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.


We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to
worry about it. Besides, most places have cable.

That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said:

"I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around."

Do you know what 'truth' is?

Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist
elites.


I thought I responded...maybe not. I watch some television, mostly
science, animal, nature, history programs, news on public television
stations, and once in a while, cable news shows.

Then why do you load up with a bunch of movies?

Jeeeesh!

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:05:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist
elites.


I thought I responded...maybe not. I watch some television, mostly
science, animal, nature, history programs, news on public television
stations, and once in a while, cable news shows.

My problem with that is there is not that much history and animal
shows to watch. When the history channel decided there was more money
in reality shows about crab fishermen and junk dealers, they became
unwatchable. Occasional Nat Geo has something decent but not that
often and cable news is simply ridiculous. MSNBC and CNN are russia
all the time and Fox is mostly based on personality shows with people
who have no personality. These days their actual news broadcasts may
actually be more unbiased than their competitors tho. I know you
disagree because anything that is not calling Trump a traitor a liar
and a moron is fake news to you, even when it has nothing to do with
Trump.

BTW I really think the left missed an opportunity. Knowing how
malleable Trump's convictions are, if they had acted like they were
supporting him, they might have had him turning on the far right of
the GOP who don't like him anyway. At that point he may have actually
helped gays, abortion people, health care advocates and might even
push back a little against the NRA. He has a pretty good history of
supporting liberal causes but you folks just pushed him deeper into
the trenches with the hard right.

The real issue now is to be sure we pay better attention to what
Congress is doing while we are distracted with this bull****.