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[email protected] July 12th 17 07:47 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400,
wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.


If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.


External drive is always possible.


At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".

John H[_2_] July 12th 17 09:27 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400,
wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.

If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.


External drive is always possible.


At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".


I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.

[email protected] July 13th 17 06:20 AM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400,
wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.

If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.

External drive is always possible.


At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".


I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.


They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



John H[_2_] July 13th 17 12:24 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:20:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400,
wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.

If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.

External drive is always possible.

At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".


I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.


They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)


Which mouse? Do you not need a dongle with that mouse?

Keyser Soze July 13th 17 12:34 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400,
wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.

If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.

External drive is always possible.

At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".


I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.


They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you? :)

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.


John H[_2_] July 13th 17 02:49 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400,
wrote:

Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying
it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies
the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it
really doesn't make that much difference.
I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed")


I may try that. Thanks.

It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug
it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are
launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the
other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text
groups.

Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text
groups.

If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching
and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a
safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C:
drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only
have one drive bay.

External drive is always possible.

At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too
many doodads hanging off of it. ;-)
If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb
drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or
whatever it maps to.
I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of
movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no
decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to
a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything.
We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected".

I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.


They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you? :)

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.


You mean like when you're not racing or sailing around Cape Horn?

[email protected] July 13th 17 04:34 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:24:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:20:39 -0400, wrote:

I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.


They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)


Which mouse? Do you not need a dongle with that mouse?


Nope, it is blue tooth and connects right to the built in blue tooth
on my Lenovo. There is a mating procedure in the blue tooth tab in
control panel.
I have become pretty partial to the Logitek "one dongle" 2.4 gz system
tho. You can connect up to 6 devices to one dongle. That lets you have
a keyboard, mouse and num pad in one port. I am not sure how you would
have 6 of anything.
The small form factor Logitek keyboard with a scratch pad is nice for
packing tho. When you have your laptop connected to the big screen in
the rental you can do everything from anywhere in the room. We still
like the num pad for running the music. The house in North Carolina
had speakers out on the deck from the entertainment center and by
putting the dongle on a USB extension cable, on the window sill we
could run the music from out there with the num pad.


[email protected] July 13th 17 04:44 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:


They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you? :)

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;)

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.


Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.

John H[_2_] July 13th 17 04:52 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:34:34 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:24:39 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:20:39 -0400,
wrote:

I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all.

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)


Which mouse? Do you not need a dongle with that mouse?


Nope, it is blue tooth and connects right to the built in blue tooth
on my Lenovo. There is a mating procedure in the blue tooth tab in
control panel.
I have become pretty partial to the Logitek "one dongle" 2.4 gz system
tho. You can connect up to 6 devices to one dongle. That lets you have
a keyboard, mouse and num pad in one port. I am not sure how you would
have 6 of anything.
The small form factor Logitek keyboard with a scratch pad is nice for
packing tho. When you have your laptop connected to the big screen in
the rental you can do everything from anywhere in the room. We still
like the num pad for running the music. The house in North Carolina
had speakers out on the deck from the entertainment center and by
putting the dongle on a USB extension cable, on the window sill we
could run the music from out there with the num pad.


That might be worth checking out. Thanks.

Keyser Soze July 13th 17 07:04 PM

This is a pain in the butt
 
On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/13/17 1:20 AM,
wrote:

They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick
out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the
laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices)



Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of
next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling
troglodyte like you? :)

Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;)

I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my
laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain
on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a
hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having
some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around.


Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the
computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large
form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are
plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching
movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker
in a laptop.
Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to
HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about
resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with
screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are
dealing with.


We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to
worry about it. Besides, most places have cable.


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