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On 10 Jul 2017 17:08:30 -0400, Harry Krause
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On 10 Jul 2017 18:48:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
What software? I am trying out a new usenet reader/writer on my iPad. I have been pretty happy with my 15 year old copy of Agent. It is not really dependent on the OS, it is not "installed", it is just an EXE. I am not even sure it uses Windows calls beyond the network drivers and certainly nothing that is registry dependent. I know this version works on W/95-8. |
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On 10 Jul 2017 19:34:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
I have been pretty happy with my 15 year old copy of Agent. It is not really dependent on the OS, it is not "installed", it is just an EXE. I am not even sure it uses Windows calls beyond the network drivers and certainly nothing that is registry dependent. I know this version works on W/95-8. Never liked Agent; doubt it would work on my iPad. :) Too much like having a computer huh? ;-) The only real trick with Agent is getting the options set the way you like it. After that it does everything I want to do. I can do Email, usenet, including binaries, up or down. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:58:28 -0400, John H
wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:14:54 -0400, wrote: On 10 Jul 2017 19:34:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I have been pretty happy with my 15 year old copy of Agent. It is not really dependent on the OS, it is not "installed", it is just an EXE. I am not even sure it uses Windows calls beyond the network drivers and certainly nothing that is registry dependent. I know this version works on W/95-8. Never liked Agent; doubt it would work on my iPad. :) Too much like having a computer huh? ;-) The only real trick with Agent is getting the options set the way you like it. After that it does everything I want to do. I can do Email, usenet, including binaries, up or down. I'm running 7.20/32.1218 now. Works as well with win10 as it did with XP. Like you say, hardest part is setting all the options. I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. |
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On 7/11/17 12:04 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:58:28 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:14:54 -0400, wrote: On 10 Jul 2017 19:34:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I have been pretty happy with my 15 year old copy of Agent. It is not really dependent on the OS, it is not "installed", it is just an EXE. I am not even sure it uses Windows calls beyond the network drivers and certainly nothing that is registry dependent. I know this version works on W/95-8. Never liked Agent; doubt it would work on my iPad. :) Too much like having a computer huh? ;-) The only real trick with Agent is getting the options set the way you like it. After that it does everything I want to do. I can do Email, usenet, including binaries, up or down. I'm running 7.20/32.1218 now. Works as well with win10 as it did with XP. Like you say, hardest part is setting all the options. I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. It's not a matter of "trouble," it's just that Agent is a pain in the ass to set up for the simple tasks for which I use email and usenet reading/posting. It's overkill by a factor of 100, at least. I don't download pieces and parts of audio or video files with Thunderbird...just plain email and usenet texts. If there is a file attached to an emails, Thunderbird handles the download...word files, xls files, et cetera. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:34:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/11/17 12:04 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:58:28 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:14:54 -0400, wrote: On 10 Jul 2017 19:34:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I have been pretty happy with my 15 year old copy of Agent. It is not really dependent on the OS, it is not "installed", it is just an EXE. I am not even sure it uses Windows calls beyond the network drivers and certainly nothing that is registry dependent. I know this version works on W/95-8. Never liked Agent; doubt it would work on my iPad. :) Too much like having a computer huh? ;-) The only real trick with Agent is getting the options set the way you like it. After that it does everything I want to do. I can do Email, usenet, including binaries, up or down. I'm running 7.20/32.1218 now. Works as well with win10 as it did with XP. Like you say, hardest part is setting all the options. I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. It's not a matter of "trouble," it's just that Agent is a pain in the ass to set up for the simple tasks for which I use email and usenet reading/posting. It's overkill by a factor of 100, at least. I don't download pieces and parts of audio or video files with Thunderbird...just plain email and usenet texts. If there is a file attached to an emails, Thunderbird handles the download...word files, xls files, et cetera. Good. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:04:21 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 06:58:28 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:14:54 -0400, wrote: On 10 Jul 2017 19:34:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I have been pretty happy with my 15 year old copy of Agent. It is not really dependent on the OS, it is not "installed", it is just an EXE. I am not even sure it uses Windows calls beyond the network drivers and certainly nothing that is registry dependent. I know this version works on W/95-8. Never liked Agent; doubt it would work on my iPad. :) Too much like having a computer huh? ;-) The only real trick with Agent is getting the options set the way you like it. After that it does everything I want to do. I can do Email, usenet, including binaries, up or down. I'm running 7.20/32.1218 now. Works as well with win10 as it did with XP. Like you say, hardest part is setting all the options. I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. 1.91 rings bells. That was a long time ago. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:43:45 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:04:21 -0400, wrote: I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. 1.91 rings bells. That was a long time ago. If it still works, why change? The one I have set up for text groups is pretty small and I can copy it to a thumb stick when I travel so it stays sync'ed to the groups I am following and I can just copy it back when I get home. You can plug that into any machine and run it without ever leaving a trace behind when you pull it out. Sort of like sex with a rubber. ;-) |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:58:15 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:43:45 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:04:21 -0400, wrote: I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. 1.91 rings bells. That was a long time ago. If it still works, why change? The one I have set up for text groups is pretty small and I can copy it to a thumb stick when I travel so it stays sync'ed to the groups I am following and I can just copy it back when I get home. You can plug that into any machine and run it without ever leaving a trace behind when you pull it out. Sort of like sex with a rubber. ;-) Hard drive blew up. I had wondered about using Agent while on the road, but figured it was impossible. Used Google Groups, which is a PITA. Hadn't thought about putting Agent on a thumb drive, or external drive of some sort. Is it possible to just copy and past the agent directory? Or is there a bit more entailed? |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:58:39 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:58:15 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:43:45 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:04:21 -0400, wrote: I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. 1.91 rings bells. That was a long time ago. If it still works, why change? The one I have set up for text groups is pretty small and I can copy it to a thumb stick when I travel so it stays sync'ed to the groups I am following and I can just copy it back when I get home. You can plug that into any machine and run it without ever leaving a trace behind when you pull it out. Sort of like sex with a rubber. ;-) Hard drive blew up. I had wondered about using Agent while on the road, but figured it was impossible. Used Google Groups, which is a PITA. Hadn't thought about putting Agent on a thumb drive, or external drive of some sort. Is it possible to just copy and past the agent directory? Or is there a bit more entailed? Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:48:54 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote:
John H Wrote in message: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:58:15 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:43:45 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:04:21 -0400, wrote: I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. 1.91 rings bells. That was a long time ago. If it still works, why change? The one I have set up for text groups is pretty small and I can copy it to a thumb stick when I travel so it stays sync'ed to the groups I am following and I can just copy it back when I get home. You can plug that into any machine and run it without ever leaving a trace behind when you pull it out. Sort of like sex with a rubber. ;-) Hard drive blew up. I had wondered about using Agent while on the road, but figured it was impossible. Used Google Groups, which is a PITA. Hadn't thought about putting Agent on a thumb drive, or external drive of some sort. Is it possible to just copy and past the agent directory? Or is there a bit more entailed? There used to be a piece of software that would allow you to make certain apps portable without having to install them and leave dribs and drabs of stuff all over your computer. Greg probably recalls the name. It might be portableapps.com Thanks. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:58:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:58:15 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:43:45 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:04:21 -0400, wrote: I have not actually screwed with the way mine is set up for well over a decade. I just keep cloning the original copy and fine tuning the target. All of the buttons and retrieval options stay the same. This is version 1.91 That was when it got the ability to handle yEnc and RAR files. I use a couple of plug ins to break open more exotic binary packing formats. I might be in as much trouble as Harry if I had to start over with a virgin version. 1.91 rings bells. That was a long time ago. If it still works, why change? The one I have set up for text groups is pretty small and I can copy it to a thumb stick when I travel so it stays sync'ed to the groups I am following and I can just copy it back when I get home. You can plug that into any machine and run it without ever leaving a trace behind when you pull it out. Sort of like sex with a rubber. ;-) Hard drive blew up. I had wondered about using Agent while on the road, but figured it was impossible. Used Google Groups, which is a PITA. Hadn't thought about putting Agent on a thumb drive, or external drive of some sort. Is it possible to just copy and past the agent directory? Or is there a bit more entailed? Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. External drive is always possible. |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H
wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. External drive is always possible. At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too many doodads hanging off of it. ;-) If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or whatever it maps to. I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything. We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected". |
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On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. External drive is always possible. At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too many doodads hanging off of it. ;-) If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or whatever it maps to. I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything. We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected". I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all. |
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote: On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. External drive is always possible. At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too many doodads hanging off of it. ;-) If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or whatever it maps to. I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything. We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected". I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all. They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:20:39 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. External drive is always possible. At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too many doodads hanging off of it. ;-) If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or whatever it maps to. I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything. We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected". I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all. They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Which mouse? Do you not need a dongle with that mouse? |
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On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. External drive is always possible. At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too many doodads hanging off of it. ;-) If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or whatever it maps to. I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything. We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected". I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all. They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. |
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:27:43 -0700 (PDT), John H wrote: On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:15:51 -0400, John H wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:45:09 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:59:24 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 20:18:38 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:05:43 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:25:31 -0400, wrote: Nothing more than simply copying the directory over and then copying it back when I get home. I use my file sync software that only copies the files that changed. but the only big file is the data file so it really doesn't make that much difference. I assume newer versions still work the same way (not "installed") I may try that. Thanks. It is easy enough to try. Just copy the directory to a thumb and plug it in somewhere. The only place you might have trouble if you are launching or storing a file in a directory that is not present on the other machine. That is not really an issue if you are only using text groups. Will give it a shot with the laptop. Too many good books and music out there to use only text groups. If you are using a binary group, just be sure the target for launching and saving is present on your host machine. C:/downloads is always a safe bet although I don't normally advise storing data on the C: drive. Usually in a laptop you do not have a choice because most only have one drive bay. External drive is always possible. At a certain point you defeat the purpose of a lap top if you have too many doodads hanging off of it. ;-) If you really need to do binaries on vacation use a big enough thumb drive to handle it and set the output drive to E:\downloads or whatever it maps to. I have a little box of thumb drives I take on vacation with lots of movies, music and whatever. It helps if you are in a place with no decent broadband and you catch a rainy day. It is seldom that we go to a place with fast enough broadband to stream anything. We decided last month that N.C. stands for "Not Connected". I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all. They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. You mean like when you're not racing or sailing around Cape Horn? |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:24:39 -0400, John H
wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:20:39 -0400, wrote: I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all. They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Which mouse? Do you not need a dongle with that mouse? Nope, it is blue tooth and connects right to the built in blue tooth on my Lenovo. There is a mating procedure in the blue tooth tab in control panel. I have become pretty partial to the Logitek "one dongle" 2.4 gz system tho. You can connect up to 6 devices to one dongle. That lets you have a keyboard, mouse and num pad in one port. I am not sure how you would have 6 of anything. The small form factor Logitek keyboard with a scratch pad is nice for packing tho. When you have your laptop connected to the big screen in the rental you can do everything from anywhere in the room. We still like the num pad for running the music. The house in North Carolina had speakers out on the deck from the entertainment center and by putting the dongle on a USB extension cable, on the window sill we could run the music from out there with the num pad. |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:34:34 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:24:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 01:20:39 -0400, wrote: I bring an external hard drive anyway. That and a mouse receiver get plugged into the laptop at a campsite, if I use the laptop at all. They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Which mouse? Do you not need a dongle with that mouse? Nope, it is blue tooth and connects right to the built in blue tooth on my Lenovo. There is a mating procedure in the blue tooth tab in control panel. I have become pretty partial to the Logitek "one dongle" 2.4 gz system tho. You can connect up to 6 devices to one dongle. That lets you have a keyboard, mouse and num pad in one port. I am not sure how you would have 6 of anything. The small form factor Logitek keyboard with a scratch pad is nice for packing tho. When you have your laptop connected to the big screen in the rental you can do everything from anywhere in the room. We still like the num pad for running the music. The house in North Carolina had speakers out on the deck from the entertainment center and by putting the dongle on a USB extension cable, on the window sill we could run the music from out there with the num pad. That might be worth checking out. Thanks. |
This is a pain in the butt
On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to worry about it. Besides, most places have cable. |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to worry about it. Besides, most places have cable. This is mostly for the evenings or an occasional rainy day. The main use is for our tunes. Cable pretty much sucks everywhere. I prefer a good movie if I am looking at the TV and what they put out on the cable movie channels are not that good. I certainly don't want to watch any cable news channels on vacation. A am also not that interested in watching commercials. |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to worry about it. Besides, most places have cable. That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said: "I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around." Do you know what 'truth' is? |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:09 -0400, John H
wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to worry about it. Besides, most places have cable. That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said: "I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around." Do you know what 'truth' is? Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist elites. |
This is a pain in the butt
On 7/13/17 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:09 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to worry about it. Besides, most places have cable. That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said: "I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around." Do you know what 'truth' is? Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist elites. I thought I responded...maybe not. I watch some television, mostly science, animal, nature, history programs, news on public television stations, and once in a while, cable news shows. |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:05:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 7/13/17 3:34 PM, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:09 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to worry about it. Besides, most places have cable. That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said: "I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around." Do you know what 'truth' is? Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist elites. I thought I responded...maybe not. I watch some television, mostly science, animal, nature, history programs, news on public television stations, and once in a while, cable news shows. Then why do you load up with a bunch of movies? Jeeeesh! |
This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:05:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist elites. I thought I responded...maybe not. I watch some television, mostly science, animal, nature, history programs, news on public television stations, and once in a while, cable news shows. My problem with that is there is not that much history and animal shows to watch. When the history channel decided there was more money in reality shows about crab fishermen and junk dealers, they became unwatchable. Occasional Nat Geo has something decent but not that often and cable news is simply ridiculous. MSNBC and CNN are russia all the time and Fox is mostly based on personality shows with people who have no personality. These days their actual news broadcasts may actually be more unbiased than their competitors tho. I know you disagree because anything that is not calling Trump a traitor a liar and a moron is fake news to you, even when it has nothing to do with Trump. BTW I really think the left missed an opportunity. Knowing how malleable Trump's convictions are, if they had acted like they were supporting him, they might have had him turning on the far right of the GOP who don't like him anyway. At that point he may have actually helped gays, abortion people, health care advocates and might even push back a little against the NRA. He has a pretty good history of supporting liberal causes but you folks just pushed him deeper into the trenches with the hard right. The real issue now is to be sure we pay better attention to what Congress is doing while we are distracted with this bull****. |
This is a pain in the butt
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:09 -0400, John H wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:04:52 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 11:44 AM, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:34:12 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 7/13/17 1:20 AM, wrote: They make some tiny little "thumb drives" these days that barely stick out of the port. My mouse is blue tooth that talks directly to the laptop with a 30' range. (same as the 2.4 gz RF devices) Gosharoonie, you have a bluetooth mouse? Whatever will they think of next? But wait, isn't that a bit too *modern* for a tiki-bar dwelling troglodyte like you? :) Blue tooth is over 20 years old, right in my wheel house ;) I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop. Nothing sticks out to catch on the computer bag, and less drain on the laptop battery. We've found that you can't really tell how fast a hotel's wi-fi availability might be by the price of the hotel, so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around. Those shortie USB drives are not an issue when you are putting the computer back in the bag but it is not that hard to plug in a large form factor thumb drive once you take it out of the bag. You are plugging in cables and such anyway unless you really like watching movies on that tiny screen or listening to music on that tinny speaker in a laptop. Most big screens have a VGA port but if they don't, I have a VGA to HDMI dongle. I just prefer the VGA because it is not as picky about resolutions. It is plug and play. Sometimes you have to diddle with screen resolution to get the HDMI going depending on what TV you are dealing with. We don't spend enough time while on a vacation looking at television to worry about it. Besides, most places have cable. That doesn't jibe too well with your last paragraph, Krause. You just said: "I just load up a mem card with a bunch of movies and stick it in my laptop...so having some flicks on the laptop is a good deal when you just want to flop around." Do you know what 'truth' is? Nobody likes to admit they watch television, particularly leftist elites. I watch TV but not that much of it. I do like nature, history, and science programs. -- Posted with my iPad Pro |
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This is a pain in the butt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:19:15 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: Getting back to take along movies,the ones I like the best are from the 30's, 40's, and 50's, some of it avant garde stuff. Mostly black and white. In terms of digital space, they're fairly small...not like the technicolor, surround sound products. :) We like our old favorite movies too but they may be a little more modern than yours. Movies are not that big anyway. These days thumb drives are pretty big. My new to me Lenovo has a 500g drive in it and it is mostly empty right now so I could load a bunch there if I wanted I suppose. I did load our tunes out there but that is not really that much space on a 500g drive. |
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