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Husband--I'm gonna fill up before we hook up
Wife--can we stop at Valero? I like their coffee Husband--Nope, going to Flying J because I'm a Good Sam Card Carrying American and we are driving a diesel big rig baby..and the J is a diesel truck stop and we're gonna save us 8-cents a gallon..So Sorry Baby, you're gonna have to drink trucker coffee. And you might as well get used to it now that we are RV-er's and driving a diesel!!! Wife-- OK Husband--Pumping pure man diesel; sniffing fumes; watching 18-wheelers drive in; admiring brand spanking new first ever F250 6.7 Liter diesel monster....fighting urge to pound chest. Husband--mentally calculating massive fuel savings... $3.41 a gallon less 8-cents is $3.33....watching the pump read-out as the gallons keep ticking. Husband--jumps in truck with big grin and tells wife they got 28-gallons and saved a whopping $2.24 Wife--sipping coffee asks...so what was final price? Husband--$3.33 after our Good Sams discount...hits engine start and listens to diesel fire up.... Wife--sips coffee..looks over and softly says....Valero has diesel for $3.14 Husband--almost injures neck as he whips around to see the Valero sign. Husband--silent Wife--silent Husband--WHOLLY CRAP..how can Flying J be $3.41 a gallon and frigging Valero $3.14??? Husband--silent Wife--maybe it's a testosterone surcharge. Husband--silent Wife--so, how much did we save again??? |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:20:16 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote:
Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message: Husband--I'm gonna fill up before we hook up Wife--can we stop at Valero? I like their coffee Husband--Nope, going to Flying J because I'm a Good Sam Card Carrying American and we are driving a diesel big rig baby..and the J is a diesel truck stop and we're gonna save us 8-cents a gallon..So Sorry Baby, you're gonna have to drink trucker coffee. And you might as well get used to it now that we are RV-er's and driving a diesel!!! Wife-- OK Husband--Pumping pure man diesel; sniffing fumes; watching 18-wheelers drive in; admiring brand spanking new first ever F250 6.7 Liter diesel monster....fighting urge to pound chest. Husband--mentally calculating massive fuel savings... $3.41 a gallon less 8-cents is $3.33....watching the pump read-out as the gallons keep ticking. Husband--jumps in truck with big grin and tells wife they got 28-gallons and saved a whopping $2.24 Wife--sipping coffee asks...so what was final price? Husband--$3.33 after our Good Sams discount...hits engine start and listens to diesel fire up.... Wife--sips coffee..looks over and softly says....Valero has diesel for $3.14 Husband--almost injures neck as he whips around to see the Valero sign. Husband--silent Wife--silent Husband--WHOLLY CRAP..how can Flying J be $3.41 a gallon and frigging Valero $3.14??? Husband--silent Wife--maybe it's a testosterone surcharge. Husband--silent Wife--so, how much did we save again??? Sounds plausable. I paid $2.05at a Valero recently. The only caveat is that you can always count on being able to manouver your rig in and out of a Flying J. That's important if you can't back up while hooked up. You're right about that. My wife can look up the station and get a satellite view very quickly. Gives a good idea of the possibilities. I wish they'd all put a flashing green light on the diesel pump. Very often they're hard as hell to find. |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:03:56 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:20:16 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote: Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message: Husband--I'm gonna fill up before we hook up Wife--can we stop at Valero? I like their coffee Husband--Nope, going to Flying J because I'm a Good Sam Card Carrying American and we are driving a diesel big rig baby..and the J is a diesel truck stop and we're gonna save us 8-cents a gallon..So Sorry Baby, you're gonna have to drink trucker coffee. And you might as well get used to it now that we are RV-er's and driving a diesel!!! Wife-- OK Husband--Pumping pure man diesel; sniffing fumes; watching 18-wheelers drive in; admiring brand spanking new first ever F250 6.7 Liter diesel monster....fighting urge to pound chest. Husband--mentally calculating massive fuel savings... $3.41 a gallon less 8-cents is $3.33....watching the pump read-out as the gallons keep ticking. Husband--jumps in truck with big grin and tells wife they got 28-gallons and saved a whopping $2.24 Wife--sipping coffee asks...so what was final price? Husband--$3.33 after our Good Sams discount...hits engine start and listens to diesel fire up.... Wife--sips coffee..looks over and softly says....Valero has diesel for $3.14 Husband--almost injures neck as he whips around to see the Valero sign. Husband--silent Wife--silent Husband--WHOLLY CRAP..how can Flying J be $3.41 a gallon and frigging Valero $3.14??? Husband--silent Wife--maybe it's a testosterone surcharge. Husband--silent Wife--so, how much did we save again??? Sounds plausable. I paid $2.05at a Valero recently. The only caveat is that you can always count on being able to manouver your rig in and out of a Flying J. That's important if you can't back up while hooked up. You're right about that. My wife can look up the station and get a satellite view very quickly. Gives a good idea of the possibilities. I wish they'd all put a flashing green light on the diesel pump. Very often they're hard as hell to find. === With a long row of pumps they are usually on one end or the other. Of course if you're towing it's nice to avoid a lot of maneuvering. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 00:24:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:03:56 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:20:16 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote: Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message: Husband--I'm gonna fill up before we hook up Wife--can we stop at Valero? I like their coffee Husband--Nope, going to Flying J because I'm a Good Sam Card Carrying American and we are driving a diesel big rig baby..and the J is a diesel truck stop and we're gonna save us 8-cents a gallon..So Sorry Baby, you're gonna have to drink trucker coffee. And you might as well get used to it now that we are RV-er's and driving a diesel!!! Wife-- OK Husband--Pumping pure man diesel; sniffing fumes; watching 18-wheelers drive in; admiring brand spanking new first ever F250 6.7 Liter diesel monster....fighting urge to pound chest. Husband--mentally calculating massive fuel savings... $3.41 a gallon less 8-cents is $3.33....watching the pump read-out as the gallons keep ticking. Husband--jumps in truck with big grin and tells wife they got 28-gallons and saved a whopping $2.24 Wife--sipping coffee asks...so what was final price? Husband--$3.33 after our Good Sams discount...hits engine start and listens to diesel fire up.... Wife--sips coffee..looks over and softly says....Valero has diesel for $3.14 Husband--almost injures neck as he whips around to see the Valero sign. Husband--silent Wife--silent Husband--WHOLLY CRAP..how can Flying J be $3.41 a gallon and frigging Valero $3.14??? Husband--silent Wife--maybe it's a testosterone surcharge. Husband--silent Wife--so, how much did we save again??? Sounds plausable. I paid $2.05at a Valero recently. The only caveat is that you can always count on being able to manouver your rig in and out of a Flying J. That's important if you can't back up while hooked up. You're right about that. My wife can look up the station and get a satellite view very quickly. Gives a good idea of the possibilities. I wish they'd all put a flashing green light on the diesel pump. Very often they're hard as hell to find. === With a long row of pumps they are usually on one end or the other. Of course if you're towing it's nice to avoid a lot of maneuvering. At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. |
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On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it |
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On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 12:06:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it Since it swivels at the ball hitch and at the plate the front tires sit on, any slight deviation from perfectly straight will jackknife the car and dolly. A pin that locked the plate in place would allow it, but the one I had didn't have one. That's one of the reasons RV'ers spend a bunch of money so they can tow a vehicle with all four down. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:27:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 6/27/2017 12:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it That would take a lot of practice. Trying to back up something with a much shorter wheel base than the towing vehicle is tricky. Conversely, the other way around, like backing up a 53' semi trailer is relatively easy. Even backing a little lawn trailer with a lawn tractor takes some practice. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Might try it with the whole car on a trailer, but not with a dolly. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:27:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 6/27/2017 12:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it That would take a lot of practice. Trying to back up something with a much shorter wheel base than the towing vehicle is tricky. Conversely, the other way around, like backing up a 53' semi trailer is relatively easy. Even backing a little lawn trailer with a lawn tractor takes some practice. It is just practice tho. Short things respond to small inputs faster but it is still the same geometry. |
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On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:27:38 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/27/2017 12:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it That would take a lot of practice. Trying to back up something with a much shorter wheel base than the towing vehicle is tricky. Conversely, the other way around, like backing up a 53' semi trailer is relatively easy. Even backing a little lawn trailer with a lawn tractor takes some practice. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Once rented a firewood splitter that was on it's own trailer. Went a couple of feet past the tricky entrance of the Tool Rental place and smashed out a taillight trying to back up the stubby little trailer that was too low to see. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 10:46:10 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:27:38 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/27/2017 12:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it That would take a lot of practice. Trying to back up something with a much shorter wheel base than the towing vehicle is tricky. Conversely, the other way around, like backing up a 53' semi trailer is relatively easy. Even backing a little lawn trailer with a lawn tractor takes some practice. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Once rented a firewood splitter that was on it's own trailer. Went a couple of feet past the tricky entrance of the Tool Rental place and smashed out a taillight trying to back up the stubby little trailer that was too low to see. Never back without a guide something you can't see. And, speaking of seeing, you must not have seen this: On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:21:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: Those are figurative comments, Timmy, not literal comments. Besides, shouldn't you be at church, helping the other elders poison the minds of the younger generations with religious bull****? All that religious bull**** you guys peddle and aim at kids ought to be labeled for what it is...child abuse. I can't wait to see Donnie's, "I whole heartedly agree with this post!" Lack of principle, Donnie, or just too cowardly to stick up for your beliefs? |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:27:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/27/2017 12:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it That would take a lot of practice. Trying to back up something with a much shorter wheel base than the towing vehicle is tricky. Conversely, the other way around, like backing up a 53' semi trailer is relatively easy. Even backing a little lawn trailer with a lawn tractor takes some practice. It is just practice tho. Short things respond to small inputs faster but it is still the same geometry. Naw. The problem, even flat tow, is the wheels of the car or dolly want to turn independently. Flat tow, the wheels go hard right or left and pretty much make like you are sliding wheels. Worse than old farm wagons ever thought of. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:25:17 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:27:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/27/2017 12:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it That would take a lot of practice. Trying to back up something with a much shorter wheel base than the towing vehicle is tricky. Conversely, the other way around, like backing up a 53' semi trailer is relatively easy. Even backing a little lawn trailer with a lawn tractor takes some practice. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Might try it with the whole car on a trailer, but not with a dolly. Never towed a dolly so I defer to you guys on that. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 18:33:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 12:27:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/27/2017 12:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. I bet if you had a camera on the RV that watched the car, you could learn how to do it That would take a lot of practice. Trying to back up something with a much shorter wheel base than the towing vehicle is tricky. Conversely, the other way around, like backing up a 53' semi trailer is relatively easy. Even backing a little lawn trailer with a lawn tractor takes some practice. It is just practice tho. Short things respond to small inputs faster but it is still the same geometry. Naw. The problem, even flat tow, is the wheels of the car or dolly want to turn independently. Flat tow, the wheels go hard right or left and pretty much make like you are sliding wheels. Worse than old farm wagons ever thought of. I've seen farmers who could back up *two* of those damn wagons loaded with hay and get it done with very little fuss. Just backing one was hard enough for me, 'course I was only a kid. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:04:45 -0400, John H
wrote: I've seen farmers who could back up *two* of those damn wagons loaded with hay and get it done with very little fuss. Just backing one was hard enough for me, 'course I was only a kid. I was always impressed watching guys backing up double bottom semis. They can get the back one up to the dock, then unhook and put the front one in the next bay with minimal lost motion. |
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On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) |
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On 6/27/2017 3:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:04:45 -0400, John H wrote: I've seen farmers who could back up *two* of those damn wagons loaded with hay and get it done with very little fuss. Just backing one was hard enough for me, 'course I was only a kid. I was always impressed watching guys backing up double bottom semis. They can get the back one up to the dock, then unhook and put the front one in the next bay with minimal lost motion. The summer after HS graduation and before starting college I worked for Bekins Moving and Storage. They used to let me drive the semi back to the warehouse when it was empty. They are *much* easier to control backing up than a little lawn trailer behind a lawn tractor. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) The Chevy spends most of its non-towing time sitting in the driveway. Motorcycle picks up most of the about-town stuff. Sometimes rain interferes a bit. |
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On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 5:27:49 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) The Chevy spends most of its non-towing time sitting in the driveway. Motorcycle picks up most of the about-town stuff. Sometimes rain interferes a bit. Yeah, that's probably the ideal situation. If you're not retired, that's not much of an option. Then you need the ca$h to have the tow vehicle and a car for everyday, or just drive the truck. A friend at work does exactly that. He has a 5th wheel trailer and a Silverado 2500. Fortunately his commute is reasonable so it's not too bad. We've toyed with the idea of selling the house when we retire and full-timing it for a year. Chase the nice weather and see the US. Then sell the RV and buy our retirement home. This place is too much for two people. We'll see. |
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Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 5:27:49 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) The Chevy spends most of its non-towing time sitting in the driveway. Motorcycle picks up most of the about-town stuff. Sometimes rain interferes a bit. Yeah, that's probably the ideal situation. If you're not retired, that's not much of an option. Then you need the ca$h to have the tow vehicle and a car for everyday, or just drive the truck. A friend at work does exactly that. He has a 5th wheel trailer and a Silverado 2500. Fortunately his commute is reasonable so it's not too bad. We've toyed with the idea of selling the house when we retire and full-timing it for a year. Chase the nice weather and see the US. Then sell the RV and buy our retirement home. This place is too much for two people. We'll see. I bought a 2014 Volt in March for a non truck driving day car. Much nicer when it came to parking. Couple trips to Los Angeles. 35-38 mpg instead of 18.5 in the diesel truck, or 23-24 in wife's Venza. Does cost me. Time value of the $15k and $800 insurance. I am impressed with the car. Quiet. Very quiet even with the gas motor running. Also I get the EV home electric rate, which in high priced California electric, is nice. 11pm to 6 am 11 cents a kWh instead of 42 cents. Offpeak rate is somewhere in the middle. So overall electric bill has gone down. |
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On 6/27/2017 6:57 PM, Bill wrote:
Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 5:27:49 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) The Chevy spends most of its non-towing time sitting in the driveway. Motorcycle picks up most of the about-town stuff. Sometimes rain interferes a bit. Yeah, that's probably the ideal situation. If you're not retired, that's not much of an option. Then you need the ca$h to have the tow vehicle and a car for everyday, or just drive the truck. A friend at work does exactly that. He has a 5th wheel trailer and a Silverado 2500. Fortunately his commute is reasonable so it's not too bad. We've toyed with the idea of selling the house when we retire and full-timing it for a year. Chase the nice weather and see the US. Then sell the RV and buy our retirement home. This place is too much for two people. We'll see. I bought a 2014 Volt in March for a non truck driving day car. Much nicer when it came to parking. Couple trips to Los Angeles. 35-38 mpg instead of 18.5 in the diesel truck, or 23-24 in wife's Venza. Does cost me. Time value of the $15k and $800 insurance. I am impressed with the car. Quiet. Very quiet even with the gas motor running. Also I get the EV home electric rate, which in high priced California electric, is nice. 11pm to 6 am 11 cents a kWh instead of 42 cents. Offpeak rate is somewhere in the middle. So overall electric bill has gone down. I can see something like a Volt where you are. Can't even imagine driving on around here, especially in mid-February. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 17:12:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 6/27/2017 3:21 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:04:45 -0400, John H wrote: I've seen farmers who could back up *two* of those damn wagons loaded with hay and get it done with very little fuss. Just backing one was hard enough for me, 'course I was only a kid. I was always impressed watching guys backing up double bottom semis. They can get the back one up to the dock, then unhook and put the front one in the next bay with minimal lost motion. The summer after HS graduation and before starting college I worked for Bekins Moving and Storage. They used to let me drive the semi back to the warehouse when it was empty. They are *much* easier to control backing up than a little lawn trailer behind a lawn tractor. That gets a little trickier when you hook the second trailer on. You may not even have double bottom trucks up there. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:57:11 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: I bought a 2014 Volt in March for a non truck driving day car. Much nicer when it came to parking. Couple trips to Los Angeles. 35-38 mpg instead of 18.5 in the diesel truck, or 23-24 in wife's Venza. Does cost me. Time value of the $15k and $800 insurance. I am impressed with the car. Quiet. Very quiet even with the gas motor running. Also I get the EV home electric rate, which in high priced California electric, is nice. 11pm to 6 am 11 cents a kWh instead of 42 cents. Offpeak rate is somewhere in the middle. So overall electric bill has gone down. Yikes 42 cents? My bill averages about 11.5 cents top to bottom number. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/27/2017 6:57 PM, Bill wrote: Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 5:27:49 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) The Chevy spends most of its non-towing time sitting in the driveway. Motorcycle picks up most of the about-town stuff. Sometimes rain interferes a bit. Yeah, that's probably the ideal situation. If you're not retired, that's not much of an option. Then you need the ca$h to have the tow vehicle and a car for everyday, or just drive the truck. A friend at work does exactly that. He has a 5th wheel trailer and a Silverado 2500. Fortunately his commute is reasonable so it's not too bad. We've toyed with the idea of selling the house when we retire and full-timing it for a year. Chase the nice weather and see the US. Then sell the RV and buy our retirement home. This place is too much for two people. We'll see. I bought a 2014 Volt in March for a non truck driving day car. Much nicer when it came to parking. Couple trips to Los Angeles. 35-38 mpg instead of 18.5 in the diesel truck, or 23-24 in wife's Venza. Does cost me. Time value of the $15k and $800 insurance. I am impressed with the car. Quiet. Very quiet even with the gas motor running. Also I get the EV home electric rate, which in high priced California electric, is nice. 11pm to 6 am 11 cents a kWh instead of 42 cents. Offpeak rate is somewhere in the middle. So overall electric bill has gone down. I can see something like a Volt where you are. Can't even imagine driving on around here, especially in mid-February. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com It has a heater. Nice thing is a hybrid, so if dead battery, gas motor generates the energies required. Not like a Leaf or Tesla where you need a long stop on a long trip. |
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wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:57:11 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: I bought a 2014 Volt in March for a non truck driving day car. Much nicer when it came to parking. Couple trips to Los Angeles. 35-38 mpg instead of 18.5 in the diesel truck, or 23-24 in wife's Venza. Does cost me. Time value of the $15k and $800 insurance. I am impressed with the car. Quiet. Very quiet even with the gas motor running. Also I get the EV home electric rate, which in high priced California electric, is nice. 11pm to 6 am 11 cents a kWh instead of 42 cents. Offpeak rate is somewhere in the middle. So overall electric bill has gone down. Yikes 42 cents? My bill averages about 11.5 cents top to bottom number. Well, we have to pay for all the deadbeats. Among most expensive electricity in the nation. Lots of taxes most likely. And the environmental nuts just got them to close San Onofre nuke plant. 20% of the electric generation in the state. |
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 01:24:23 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: It has a heater. Nice thing is a hybrid, so if dead battery, gas motor generates the energies required. Not like a Leaf or Tesla where you need a long stop on a long trip. I guess the gas motor would be running most of the time in the winter. Even then it better be a hot water heater, not toaster wire. I remember the old VWs had that "carbon monoxide" heater. Once it got going it was OK but it did not have a separate blower so if you were stuck in traffic you did not get much heat out of it. |
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:50:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 5:27:49 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) The Chevy spends most of its non-towing time sitting in the driveway. Motorcycle picks up most of the about-town stuff. Sometimes rain interferes a bit. Yeah, that's probably the ideal situation. If you're not retired, that's not much of an option. Then you need the ca$h to have the tow vehicle and a car for everyday, or just drive the truck. A friend at work does exactly that. He has a 5th wheel trailer and a Silverado 2500. Fortunately his commute is reasonable so it's not too bad. We've toyed with the idea of selling the house when we retire and full-timing it for a year. Chase the nice weather and see the US. Then sell the RV and buy our retirement home. This place is too much for two people. We'll see. My Silverado gets 22mpg on the highway and about 17 all around, without the trailer. I can live with that. |
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John H wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:50:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 5:27:49 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 1:23:20 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:18:58 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 05:56:43 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: At the bigger places, that's generally true. I once went inside to ask where the diesel pump was. Answer, "Oh, it's around back." Most definitely wouldn't try to take a 33' trailer 'around back'. Not without looking anyway. ;-) I have been in some tough spots towing my pontoon, behind a stretch E-150. Haven't had to unhook it and take another swing at it tho. A few years ago we had a 25' Winnebago, and I towed my wife's car with it on a tow dolly a few times. There's no backing up with a tow dolly, at least not for more than a few feet. One time I made a wrong turn, got into a tight spot, and had to unstrap and unload the car, get the rig turned around, and load everything back up. What a pain. Having to pull a toad is the main reason I won't consider a motorhome. Well, it's either that or having a big tow vehicle that you end up driving even when you don't need it for towing. Pick your poison. Unlike the dolly, you can back the toad up. :) The Chevy spends most of its non-towing time sitting in the driveway. Motorcycle picks up most of the about-town stuff. Sometimes rain interferes a bit. Yeah, that's probably the ideal situation. If you're not retired, that's not much of an option. Then you need the ca$h to have the tow vehicle and a car for everyday, or just drive the truck. A friend at work does exactly that. He has a 5th wheel trailer and a Silverado 2500. Fortunately his commute is reasonable so it's not too bad. We've toyed with the idea of selling the house when we retire and full-timing it for a year. Chase the nice weather and see the US. Then sell the RV and buy our retirement home. This place is too much for two people. We'll see. My Silverado gets 22mpg on the highway and about 17 all around, without the trailer. I can live with that. I do not mind the Silverado mileage. Mine is a 2004 and the later ones get about a mile per gallon more as they added another gear to the tranny. |
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