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BW October 15th 03 12:31 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
I was searching through some past articles trying to answer the above
question and came across someone who wrote this:

"Part of racing's thrill is the danger. I believe, though, that
wearing a life vest doesn't reduce the thrill any more than wearing a
seat belt kills the thrill of driving a race car 200 mph."

What things have thrilled you about powerboats? Speed, motion, spray
in your face, winning, owning a boat, drinks and parties afterwards…

I'm a researcher in England and I'd really like to know about your
powerboat related thrills. I'm currently conducting interviews with
people about their personal experiences on the web-site
www.chromo11.com

If you've got something to say on the subject, please visit the site
and take an interview. You'll find a set of short, but carefully
crafted questions that you can download and answer at your leisure;
you'll also be able to read more about the project.

Thanks

Brendan
email: thrill@chromo11[dot]com
web: www.chromo11.com

Walt October 15th 03 02:21 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
BW wrote:

What things have thrilled you about powerboats? Speed, motion, spray
in your face, winning, owning a boat, drinks and parties afterwards…

I'm a researcher in England and I'd really like to know about your
powerboat related thrills. I'm currently conducting interviews with
people about their personal experiences...


rec.boats.racing.power is down the hall. You might want to ask there.

--
//-Walt
//
//

Gus Bringard October 15th 03 04:45 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Waaaaalllllllyyyyyyyyyyy!

Time for your bitch-slappin'

This n.g. IS for racing.

Take YOUR sale-bottin ass somewhere else.

"Walt" wrote in message
...
BW wrote:

What things have thrilled you about powerboats? Speed, motion, spray
in your face, winning, owning a boat, drinks and parties afterwards.

I'm a researcher in England and I'd really like to know about your
powerboat related thrills. I'm currently conducting interviews with
people about their personal experiences...


rec.boats.racing.power is down the hall. You might want to ask there.

--
//-Walt
//
//




BW October 18th 03 09:01 AM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
I'm not selling anything, just curious about what thrills people about
the things they do. I'm a researcher at the Royal Colege of Art in
England funded by an arts grant. When I work out how to engineer
thrill and bottle it - then I'll be rich! It's an interesting jouney,
finding that people who knit, or play chess are thrilled just as much
as F1 racing drivers.

Thanks for your comments. I do try and make an effort to revisit
conversations I started.

If you forget (please) that I clumsily stumbled into your group (I do
try and read the groups history to understand where you're coming
from). The question still stands, "what thrills you"

Don't bother visiting my site. I'm posting the interview right now, so
you can see that I'm just interested in your stories.

Thanks

Brendan Walker
+44 (0)20 8539 5837

++++++++++++ INTERVIEW FOLLOWS HERE +++++++++++++++
Hello again,

Thanks for agreeing to be interviewed. Answer as many questions as you
can (the more the better) then email your interview to me at
. If there's anything else you want to say just
add a note at the bottom of the email.

You're obviously sat at your computer, so we'll make a start...


ABOUT YOU
==========

Just to get the record straight, could please tell me your name, age,
sex and where you were born (I'll only publish your surname and
birthplace unless otherwise instructed)
name:
age:
sex:
birthplace:


YOUR BACKGROUND
==================

1.Q Tell me about the first time you remember being thrilled.
1.A


2.Q Which of your thrilling experiences has frightened you the most?
2.A


3.Q What's the smallest or slightest thing to have thrilled you?
3.A


4.Q Tell me why you're not a sensible person.
4.A


5.Q What were you doing the last time you were really bored?
5.A


6.Q What's the most uninhibited thing you've ever done?
6.A


7.Q What things have you considered doing for thrill, but were too
concerned about the risks?
7.A


8.Q I always dreamt about becoming a paramedic, speeding in an
ambulance and saving lives; what about you?
8.A



YOUR THRILL
============
To answer these next 15 questions, you should think about a particular
time you were thrilled.


9.Q Describe this thrill in a nutshell, in one sentence. (there's time
to expand later)
9.A



the setting...
----------------
10.Q Where and when did it take place?
10.A


11.Q Tell me a bit about yourself around this time.
11.A


preparation...
------------------
12.Q How did the moment arise? Was it planned?
12.A


your feelings...
--------------------
13.Q List the sequence of events leading up to your thrill, and how
you felt at each stage. The smallest detail could be important (this
is your chance to expand).
13.A


14.Q At the exact moment of thrill, how did your mind and body feel?
14.A


15.Q What thoughts were going through your head?
15.A


16.Q What did you do immediately afterwards?
16.A


the risks...
-------------
17.Q What were the most likely things that could have put you off
going through with it?
17.A


other people...
--------------------
18.Q How were other people important to your thrill?
18.A


19.Q What do you imagine other people were thinking throughout your
thrilling episode?
19.A


20.Q Some people probably don't understand how such a thing can thrill
you; explain it to them.
20.A


equipment...
-----------------
21.Q Why were certain objects or equipment important to your thrill?
21.A


repeat performance...
-----------------------------
22.Q If you've done something like this before, how does the last time
compare to the first time you did it?
22.A


23.Q If you did it again, what things would you add or change to make
it even better?
23.A


finally...
-----------
Thanks for doing the interview. I'll let you know when it's on the
chromo11.com website. Is there anything you want to add?

DSK October 19th 03 01:46 AM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Gus Bringard wrote:

Waaaaalllllllyyyyyyyyyyy!

Time for your bitch-slappin'

This n.g. IS for racing.

Take YOUR sale-bottin ass somewhere else.


Excuse me, but considering that the discussions (as opposed to the spamming)
taking place in this newsgroup are about things like spinnakers, mark
roundings, IMS ratings, etc etc, then it would seem that this newsgroup is
about SAILBOAT racing.

Perhaps there is some new kind of motorboat racing that we don't know about?
Please tell us. Otherwise, shut up because you're a moron.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Inigo Montoya October 19th 03 02:10 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Gus Bringard wrote:

Waaaaalllllllyyyyyyyyyyy!

Time for your bitch-slappin'

This n.g. IS for racing.

Take YOUR sale-bottin ass somewhere else.


Excuse me, but considering that the discussions (as opposed to the

spamming)
taking place in this newsgroup are about things like spinnakers, mark
roundings, IMS ratings, etc etc, then it would seem that this newsgroup is
about SAILBOAT racing.

Perhaps there is some new kind of motorboat racing that we don't know

about?
Please tell us. Otherwise, shut up because you're a moron.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Dear Douggy,

Charter of this newsgroup is boat racing. Since there is no such thing as a
racing sailboat, you should look at: alt.sailing

Sticks, strings, and laundry do not a raceboat make...............




J Balk October 19th 03 06:50 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
"Inigo Montoya" wrote in message
...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Gus Bringard wrote:

Waaaaalllllllyyyyyyyyyyy!

Time for your bitch-slappin'

This n.g. IS for racing.

Take YOUR sale-bottin ass somewhere else.


Excuse me, but considering that the discussions (as opposed to the

spamming)
taking place in this newsgroup are about things like spinnakers, mark
roundings, IMS ratings, etc etc, then it would seem that this newsgroup

is
about SAILBOAT racing.

Perhaps there is some new kind of motorboat racing that we don't know

about?
Please tell us. Otherwise, shut up because you're a moron.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Dear Douggy,

Charter of this newsgroup is boat racing. Since there is no such thing as

a
racing sailboat, you should look at: alt.sailing

Sticks, strings, and laundry do not a raceboat make...............


What was the last powerboat race around the world? I must have
missed that one.

Actually, the newgroup's charter seems to be about boat racing,
not sailboat racing specifically. Perhaps someone knows more.
OTOH, most of the talk here is about racing sailboats.




BW October 19th 03 09:39 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
I have been a little confused, but I now see where I made my mistake.
Whilst doing background research into the group rec.boats.racing it
included the sub group rec.boats.racing.power. Most of articles I read
were about the thrill of powerboat racing. I subsequently posted my
power boat query into rec.boats.racing which I now know is about sail
boat racing.

Again, please accept my apology.

But as my research is still about thrill, sailboat racing is JUST as
interesting. I am revising my question to "what do you find thrilling
about sailboat racing"?

Any comments...

Brendan

Andy Champ October 19th 03 09:47 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
J Balk wrote:


What was the last powerboat race around the world? I must have
missed that one.

Actually, the newgroup's charter seems to be about boat racing,
not sailboat racing specifically. Perhaps someone knows more.
OTOH, most of the talk here is about racing sailboats.



.... possibly because there is a seperate rec.boats.racing.power

Andy


Andy Champ October 21st 03 12:02 AM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
BW wrote:
I have been a little confused, but I now see where I made my mistake.
Whilst doing background research into the group rec.boats.racing it
included the sub group rec.boats.racing.power. Most of articles I read
were about the thrill of powerboat racing. I subsequently posted my
power boat query into rec.boats.racing which I now know is about sail
boat racing.

Again, please accept my apology.


In my view, not really necessary.

But as my research is still about thrill, sailboat racing is JUST as
interesting. I am revising my question to "what do you find thrilling
about sailboat racing"?

Any comments...

Brendan



Hmm... not sure "thrill" is quite the right word. When you're speeding
across the water at 2mph on a light day, trying to find the gusts and
shifts, watching what the opponents are doing, "thrill" is not the word
that would spring to mind. However it is the kind of thing where you
cannot be thinking about anything else. You just have to "switch off"
from the world of work and concentrate on what you're doing.

Then there was yesterday, where thrill might have been the right word.
Like the end of one race where i was hanging off the side of the boat, 6
inches off the water, with the bow wave from the next boat trying to get
down the back of my neck (after an hours racing we were that close -
shame we weren't winning....) and concentrating absolutely on what I was
doing.

Then there's the fitness side of it. Today I can hardly climb stairs,
my quadriceps muscles are so stiff... There are few sports which engage
your mind and your body, keep you fit with little risk of injury, and
which are suitable for anyone from 5 to 75. Though I must admit in the
wind the age range was down to 10 to 60.

HTH

Andy


Gus Bringard October 21st 03 12:41 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Dear Chum (or is it Chump?)

Told you before that blow-bots aren't racing.
*Speeding* at 2 MPH ?????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Racing thrills: Being able to maintain your concentration for up to two
hours or so, when traveling at 120 MPH in 4-6' swells, while at the same
time - navigating - keeping an eye on the gauges - keeping tabs on the
competition, etc.

Speeding sail-bot........HA........like trying to race turtles against
snails................


"Andy Champ" wrote in message
...

Hmm... not sure "thrill" is quite the right word. When you're speeding
across the water at 2mph on a light day, trying to find the gusts and
shifts, watching what the opponents are doing, "thrill" is not the word
that would spring to mind. However it is the kind of thing where you
cannot be thinking about anything else. You just have to "switch off"
from the world of work and concentrate on what you're doing.

Then there was yesterday, where thrill might have been the right word.
Like the end of one race where i was hanging off the side of the boat, 6
inches off the water, with the bow wave from the next boat trying to get
down the back of my neck (after an hours racing we were that close -
shame we weren't winning....) and concentrating absolutely on what I was
doing.

Then there's the fitness side of it. Today I can hardly climb stairs,
my quadriceps muscles are so stiff... There are few sports which engage
your mind and your body, keep you fit with little risk of injury, and
which are suitable for anyone from 5 to 75. Though I must admit in the
wind the age range was down to 10 to 60.

HTH

Andy




Bumper7 October 21st 03 05:23 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
As an ex fighter pilot replied in rec.aviation, "The thrill is avoiding
thrills!" at least in sailboat racing.
I'm not sure why people race power boats, nor what they do with the time
they save.

Good luck,
Bumper7


BW wrote:
I have been a little confused, but I now see where I made my mistake.
Whilst doing background research into the group rec.boats.racing it
included the sub group rec.boats.racing.power. Most of articles I read
were about the thrill of powerboat racing. I subsequently posted my
power boat query into rec.boats.racing which I now know is about sail
boat racing.

Again, please accept my apology.

But as my research is still about thrill, sailboat racing is JUST as
interesting. I am revising my question to "what do you find thrilling
about sailboat racing"?

Any comments...

Brendan



Wim October 21st 03 06:39 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Go the bar and have a drink ;-)
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Bumper7" wrote in message
...
: As an ex fighter pilot replied in rec.aviation, "The thrill is avoiding
: thrills!" at least in sailboat racing.
: I'm not sure why people race power boats, nor what they do with the time
: they save.
:
: Good luck,
: Bumper7
:
:
: BW wrote:
: I have been a little confused, but I now see where I made my mistake.
: Whilst doing background research into the group rec.boats.racing it
: included the sub group rec.boats.racing.power. Most of articles I read
: were about the thrill of powerboat racing. I subsequently posted my
: power boat query into rec.boats.racing which I now know is about sail
: boat racing.
:
: Again, please accept my apology.
:
: But as my research is still about thrill, sailboat racing is JUST as
: interesting. I am revising my question to "what do you find thrilling
: about sailboat racing"?
:
: Any comments...
:
: Brendan
:



Gus Bringard October 21st 03 07:44 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 

"Bumper7" wrote in message
...
As an ex fighter pilot replied in rec.aviation, "The thrill is avoiding
thrills!" at least in sailboat racing.
I'm not sure why people race power boats, nor what they do with the time
they save.


We have sex with your women while you're still trying to find your way to
the dock.
(By the way, tell them to shave more often......)



Andy Champ October 21st 03 10:21 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Gus Bringard wrote:
Dear Chum (or is it Chump?)

Told you before that blow-bots aren't racing.
*Speeding* at 2 MPH ?????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Dear Gus,
If you find a dictionary you may be able to find a definition of the
word "sarcasm". Try applying it to my previous post.

Then grow up and go away.

Andy


Matt/Meribeth Pedersen October 22nd 03 05:51 AM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Never understood the attraction of burning a bunch of gas
to get someplace fast and spend even more money on
marked up booze at a bar when you can be drinking
with good friends on the boat while you're out
sailing to your destination. ;=)

"Wim" wrote in message
...
Go the bar and have a drink ;-)
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Bumper7" wrote in message
...
: As an ex fighter pilot replied in rec.aviation, "The thrill is avoiding
: thrills!" at least in sailboat racing.
: I'm not sure why people race power boats, nor what they do with the time
: they save.
:
: Good luck,
: Bumper7
:
:
: BW wrote:
: I have been a little confused, but I now see where I made my mistake.
: Whilst doing background research into the group rec.boats.racing it
: included the sub group rec.boats.racing.power. Most of articles I read
: were about the thrill of powerboat racing. I subsequently posted my
: power boat query into rec.boats.racing which I now know is about sail
: boat racing.
:
: Again, please accept my apology.
:
: But as my research is still about thrill, sailboat racing is JUST as
: interesting. I am revising my question to "what do you find thrilling
: about sailboat racing"?
:
: Any comments...
:
: Brendan
:





Matt/Meribeth Pedersen October 22nd 03 05:57 AM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
"Gus Bringard" wrote in message
...

"Bumper7" wrote in message
...
I'm not sure why people race power boats, nor what they do with the time
they save.


We have sex with your women while you're still trying to find your way to
the dock.
(By the way, tell them to shave more often......)



I don't know which women you're talking about. The
good ones are out on the water sailing, not hanging around
some tiki bar.




BW October 22nd 03 10:41 AM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Hugely contrasting opinions from two very different water sports -
both using the same user-group...

Think about replacing the word "thrill" with exhilaration, pleasure or
delight. Sometimes the word "thrill" is interpreted as always needing
an element of danger.

My aim isn't to come up with sweeping conclusion about the thrills of
your sport, or the people who do it. My research is interested in
personal experiences. I think you can understand more by reading
personal accounts, rather than writing "sailing is thrilling because
of X, Y and Z", the latter approach is too analytical.

If you could take the time to answer the following questions, it might
give a good idea about the real differences between the two sports.
I'm posing they same questions to knitters as well as skydivers - so
try and think how they apply to your experiences.

Either do it online, or in the privacy of email. But please email a
copy to me at interview@chromo11[dot]com whatever. I'll post the
results nicely formatted on my website www.chromo11[dot]com along with
pictures.

It'll be a real eye opener for me, and hopefully you'll find it
interesting too. If you don't want to do it, then please take a step
back from the discussion.

Thanks

Brendan

==========
ABOUT YOU
==========

1.Q Tell me about the first time you remember being thrilled.
1.A

2.Q What's the slightest thing to have thrilled you?
2.A

3.Q What's the most frightening yet thrilling thing you've done?
3.A

4.Q Tell me why you're not completely sensible.
4.A

5.Q What's the most uninhibited thing you've ever done?
5.A

6.Q What have you considered doing for pleasure but were too concerned
about the risks?
6.A


YOUR THRILL
============
To answer these next 10 questions, you should think about a particular
time you were thrilled.

7.Q Describe the event in one sentence (there's time to expand later)
7.A

8.Q Tell me a bit about yourself around this time.
8.A

9.Q List the sequence of events leading up to your thrill. Try to
remember how you felt at each stage. The smallest detail could be
important (this is your chance to expand).
9.A

10.Q What were your thoughts and feelings at the precise moment of
thrill?
10.A

11.Q What did you do afterwards?
11.A

12.Q What were the risks?
12.A

13.Q What did you imagine other people thought of you during and after
the event?
13.A

14.Q How often do you think about the event, and why?
14.A

15.Q Some people probably don't understand how such a thing can thrill
you; explain it to them.
15.A

16.Q What three changes could have made the experience better?
16.A

Just to get the record straight, could please tell me your name, age,
sex and where you were born (I'll only publish your surname and
birthplace unless otherwise instructed)

name:
age:
sex:
birthplace:

Wim October 22nd 03 07:47 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
: when you can be drinking
with good friends on the boat while you're out
sailing to your destination. ;=)

Not here in Ontario! No open liquor allowed while "under way"!

--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Matt/Meribeth Pedersen" wrote in message
. net...
: Never understood the attraction of burning a bunch of gas
: to get someplace fast and spend even more money on
: marked up booze at a bar when you can be drinking
: with good friends on the boat while you're out
: sailing to your destination. ;=)
:
: "Wim" wrote in message
: ...
: Go the bar and have a drink ;-)
: --
: c ya Wim
: www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html
:
:
: "Bumper7" wrote in message
: ...
: : As an ex fighter pilot replied in rec.aviation, "The thrill is
avoiding
: : thrills!" at least in sailboat racing.
: : I'm not sure why people race power boats, nor what they do with the
time
: : they save.
: :
: : Good luck,
: : Bumper7
: :
: :
: : BW wrote:
: : I have been a little confused, but I now see where I made my
mistake.
: : Whilst doing background research into the group rec.boats.racing it
: : included the sub group rec.boats.racing.power. Most of articles I
read
: : were about the thrill of powerboat racing. I subsequently posted my
: : power boat query into rec.boats.racing which I now know is about
sail
: : boat racing.
: :
: : Again, please accept my apology.
: :
: : But as my research is still about thrill, sailboat racing is JUST as
: : interesting. I am revising my question to "what do you find
thrilling
: : about sailboat racing"?
: :
: : Any comments...
: :
: : Brendan
: :
:
:

:



Gus Bringard October 22nd 03 08:19 PM

what the THRILL with racing?
 
Only assholes or morons with a death wish drink and drive.
ESPECIALLY shipboard.
You're probably the dumbass that doesn't know the rules of the road
either........


"Matt/Meribeth Pedersen" wrote in message
. net...
Never understood the attraction of burning a bunch of gas
to get someplace fast and spend even more money on
marked up booze at a bar when you can be drinking
with good friends on the boat while you're out
sailing to your destination. ;=)

"Wim" wrote in message
...
Go the bar and have a drink ;-)
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Bumper7" wrote in message
...
: As an ex fighter pilot replied in rec.aviation, "The thrill is

avoiding
: thrills!" at least in sailboat racing.
: I'm not sure why people race power boats, nor what they do with the

time
: they save.
:
: Good luck,
: Bumper7
:
:
: BW wrote:
: I have been a little confused, but I now see where I made my

mistake.
: Whilst doing background research into the group rec.boats.racing it
: included the sub group rec.boats.racing.power. Most of articles I

read
: were about the thrill of powerboat racing. I subsequently posted my
: power boat query into rec.boats.racing which I now know is about

sail
: boat racing.
:
: Again, please accept my apology.
:
: But as my research is still about thrill, sailboat racing is JUST as
: interesting. I am revising my question to "what do you find

thrilling
: about sailboat racing"?
:
: Any comments...
:
: Brendan
:








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