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On 5/26/17 8:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/26/2017 8:36 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 8:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Politics is a blood sucking sport, full of innuendo, false claims and
flat out deception, all designed to confuse the public.

Here's a current example:

Leaks to the WashPost and NYTimes recently identified a person "close
to Trump" is under investigation for issues related to "Russia,
Russia, Russia".

They didn't name the "person" ... but gave plenty of hints that it was
Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law.

Now, Jared Kushner has been identified as a "person of interest", a
term that has absolutely no legal significance. All it does is
create a negative image of Kushner.

Here's the problem:

Jared Kushner unilaterally *volunteered* to appear before the Senate
Intelligence Committee last month to respond to any questions the
Committee had regarding his involvement in the Trump campaign and/or
administration.

Despite his offer, the Committee never bothered to ask him to testify.

Instead, they wait until the right moment, then leaked to the press that
Kushner is now a "person of interest" and the FBI wants to talk to him.
All this does is create suspicion of wrongdoing that has absolutely
no basis in evidence.

Political games, that's all.


The news reports I saw stated several times that there was "no
suspicion of wrongdoing" in Jared Kushner's political activities
on behalf of his father in law. He is, however, just as sleazy as
Donald Trump in his private business dealings and is, among other
things, a notorious slumlord. Perhaps the FBI is only interested in
what Jared heard when he attended those meetings with the Russians
with Mike Flynn.



You are, as usual, jumping to conclusions that have no basis in fact.
In addition, your comments have nothing to do with what I posted. I was
attempting to point out the sleazy political games that are played in
order to paint a negative image of someone before any testimony or
evidence is collected. He *volunteered* last March to testify but
nobody was interested at the time apparently or felt it was important.
But, leak it out to the liberal media and press and suddenly he's a
"person of interest".



The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings
with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a
sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we
have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah.
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On 5/26/2017 8:49 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 8:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/26/2017 8:36 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/26/17 8:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Politics is a blood sucking sport, full of innuendo, false claims
and flat out deception, all designed to confuse the public.

Here's a current example:

Leaks to the WashPost and NYTimes recently identified a person
"close to Trump" is under investigation for issues related to
"Russia, Russia, Russia".

They didn't name the "person" ... but gave plenty of hints that it was
Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law.

Now, Jared Kushner has been identified as a "person of interest", a
term that has absolutely no legal significance. All it does is
create a negative image of Kushner.

Here's the problem:

Jared Kushner unilaterally *volunteered* to appear before the Senate
Intelligence Committee last month to respond to any questions the
Committee had regarding his involvement in the Trump campaign and/or
administration.

Despite his offer, the Committee never bothered to ask him to testify.

Instead, they wait until the right moment, then leaked to the press
that
Kushner is now a "person of interest" and the FBI wants to talk to him.
All this does is create suspicion of wrongdoing that has absolutely
no basis in evidence.

Political games, that's all.


The news reports I saw stated several times that there was "no
suspicion of wrongdoing" in Jared Kushner's political activities
on behalf of his father in law. He is, however, just as sleazy as
Donald Trump in his private business dealings and is, among other
things, a notorious slumlord. Perhaps the FBI is only interested in
what Jared heard when he attended those meetings with the Russians
with Mike Flynn.



You are, as usual, jumping to conclusions that have no basis in fact.
In addition, your comments have nothing to do with what I posted. I
was attempting to point out the sleazy political games that are played
in order to paint a negative image of someone before any testimony or
evidence is collected. He *volunteered* last March to testify but
nobody was interested at the time apparently or felt it was important.
But, leak it out to the liberal media and press and suddenly he's a
"person of interest".



The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings
with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a
sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we
have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah.



Then they should have put him under oath and questioned him when he
volunteered to testify. Playing games, that's all.



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On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
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The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings
with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a
sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we
have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah.


Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows
something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric?
Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too?
I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC
contractors what a debt from Trump is worth.
You folks can't have it both ways.
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In article , says...

On Fri, 26 May 2017 12:04:19 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/26/17 11:10 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings
with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a
sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we
have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah.

Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows
something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric?
Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too?
I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC
contractors what a debt from Trump is worth.
You folks can't have it both ways.


During the campaign and after the election, it was at the very least
inappropriate, and it builds from there.


I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that
is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to
register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it
ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill


How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it?
Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't.
Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations.
It's our intelligence agencies. Let the chips fall where they may.
Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans.
He only has the support of the deplorables.


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On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...

On Fri, 26 May 2017 12:04:19 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/26/17 11:10 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2017 08:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:


The DOJ made Kushner a "person of interest." "Have you had any meetings
with the Russians, Jared?" Oh, I forgot I met with the CEO of a
sanctioned bank in Russia. Oh, and so did Sessions and Flynn. Should we
have put that on the disclosure forms? Nah.

Why is it such a horrible thing that the administration actually knows
something about the Russians beyond the cold war rhetoric?
Do you really think Trump was not trying to **** them over too?
I keep hearing that Trump must owe Putin something. Ask those NYC
contractors what a debt from Trump is worth.
You folks can't have it both ways.


During the campaign and after the election, it was at the very least
inappropriate, and it builds from there.


I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that
is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to
register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it
ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill


How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it?
Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't.
Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations.
It's our intelligence agencies. Let the chips fall where they may.
Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans.
He only has the support of the deplorables.


Would you like some wine with your whine?
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On Fri, 26 May 2017 09:22:29 -1100, Boating All Out
wrote:

I bet after spending 100 million on all of these investigations, that
is also where it stops. Flynn may have to cop to a "failure to
register" charge (assuming he doesn't get immunity) but I doubt it
ever gets back to Trump and that is who you want to kill


How much was spent investigating HRC? It worked for the GOP, didn't it?

Certainly did with Bill. Copped a plea on the same charge they allege
against Trump with an additional perjury charge and he paid Paula
$850k. Was disbarred.

Made her into a super-villain to the gullable. She never faced a charge, and won't.

Just because she removed herself from the field and nobody gives a
**** anymore

Thing is, it's not the Dems making false charges and conducting these investigations.
It's our intelligence agencies.


The same ones who are leaking UK investigative information in the
middle of an active investigation into a terror attack. They should be
ashamed.

Let the chips fall where they may.
Trump is already a dead man walking to decent Americans.
He only has the support of the deplorables.


The deplorables seem to be almost half of the US electorate.




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