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On 5/13/2017 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 May 2017 11:10:08 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 13 May 2017 08:22:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I didn't think about it but I suspect you are right about these offers. I'll bet they only apply if you finance it through them. It just starts the interest cycle over again. I haven't financed a car purchase in about 25 years. They dealerships don't like cash buyers. I was told that only 8 percent of buyers pay cash for a new car. When I bought my truck in 2008 the salesman tried hard to convince me to finance it through Ford but I told him I wasn't interested. He then tried to get me to finance it, even if I just paid it off in a month or two. They must get some kind of kickback if the vehicle is financed through the financing arm of the manufacturer. These deals are deals because people finance and don't look at the end date. "My payments are almost the same". They don't mention that it is the same for 5 more years. I suppose it is fine if you are consigned to dying with a car payment due. Like you, I have not really financed a car for decades but I did take the finance deal with Ford on my wife's Lincoln. You are right, I got the guy to admit I only had to keep the note for 90 days (by then they have sold the paper). I also had to finance a minimum of ~$10,000 to get a $1000 kick back so that is exactly what I did. I ended up making about $600 after all of the finance charges and that was only about 4 months. It was still worth doing. I wonder how many people read the "Z" form to see what the actual cost of a financed car is. BTW that "zero percent" money comes at a cost too. They will usually knock off 2 grand if you don't take "zero percent" money and there is another kickback for using their financing but you have to waive the cash at them before they offer it up. I usually spring the cash on them at the last minute and see how badly they want to sell the car. === And after making your best deal possible you still have too make it by the "closer" who is selling the extended warranty, undercoating, pin stripes, mud flaps, vinyl roof, etc. I once made a pretty good deal on a new Camry only to have my wife get sucked into the pin stripe deal for something like $200. As I've previously mentioned, we've bought several cars from the same dealership over the years including a couple of "company" cars that I had in the business. The owner and some of the people who have worked there for a while know us well. When we went into the financial guy's office to fill out all the paperwork I told him up front that we can save some time because we were not interested in all the extra stuff they try to sell you. He said he had to go through it anyway by policy. So, he did and we declined it all. I asked him how long he has been at the dealership and it turns out it was his first week on the job. So, I said, "In that case, we should be welcoming *you* here. |
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On 5/13/2017 1:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/13/17 11:10 AM, wrote: On Sat, 13 May 2017 08:22:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I didn't think about it but I suspect you are right about these offers. I'll bet they only apply if you finance it through them. It just starts the interest cycle over again. I haven't financed a car purchase in about 25 years. They dealerships don't like cash buyers. I was told that only 8 percent of buyers pay cash for a new car. When I bought my truck in 2008 the salesman tried hard to convince me to finance it through Ford but I told him I wasn't interested. He then tried to get me to finance it, even if I just paid it off in a month or two. They must get some kind of kickback if the vehicle is financed through the financing arm of the manufacturer. These deals are deals because people finance and don't look at the end date. "My payments are almost the same". They don't mention that it is the same for 5 more years. I suppose it is fine if you are consigned to dying with a car payment due. Like you, I have not really financed a car for decades but I did take the finance deal with Ford on my wife's Lincoln. You are right, I got the guy to admit I only had to keep the note for 90 days (by then they have sold the paper). I also had to finance a minimum of ~$10,000 to get a $1000 kick back so that is exactly what I did. I ended up making about $600 after all of the finance charges and that was only about 4 months. It was still worth doing. I wonder how many people read the "Z" form to see what the actual cost of a financed car is. BTW that "zero percent" money comes at a cost too. They will usually knock off 2 grand if you don't take "zero percent" money and there is another kickback for using their financing but you have to waive the cash at them before they offer it up. I usually spring the cash on them at the last minute and see how badly they want to sell the car. We got a $16,000 trade in, got $750 rebate back on the multi-year additional warranty wife bought with the 2016 but didn't buy with the 2017, got $2500 in "incentives" from Toyota and another $1000 for paying cash and not taking the 0% financing that was offered through the dealership. That made the value of the trade about $20,000. The 2017 on sale was $22,800 and change. So, in effect, the use of the 2016 for a full year (wife doesn't drive that much except to Florida and back twice a year), was under $3,000. Almost nothing considering she got a brand new car she likes. Hope you at least got power windows with the base model Camry. The trade in was the base model. It had power windows. The 2017 model is an upgrade. It has power windows, too, and more. Pretty much all cars come with power windows now-a-days. Power is cheaper to manufacture and install than the old crank type windows. |
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On 5/13/2017 2:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 May 2017 08:00:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 8:56 On Sat, 13 May 2017 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: - show quoted text - === Those things last forever with a little TLC. - show quoted text - ... Oh yes, Wayne. 236,000 out of my 1995 Lincoln town car till gobs of wired stuff went bad. I like the idea of sitting on a living room couch gliding smoothly down the road like sliding on oil. 25mpg highway isn't bad either... https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/m..._oem_1_500.jpg 10 million cops and cab driver can't be wrong ;-) That is just a Crown Vic with a trim package. It is probably the last of the big cars. Many cops were dismayed when Ford killed the Crown Vic. They were comfortable cars. I had a former cop Crown Vic for a while with the police interceptor package. High miles but it still ran great and strong. Still had the "cage" behind the front seat but all the fancy lights were disconnected by law. |
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On Sat, 13 May 2017 12:55:57 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: If I contract anything serious, I'll get myself kicked out of my union's health plan so it doesn't get stuck with high bills on my behalf and get into Medicare with the necessary supplements. Be aware that the "good" medicare gap plans come with underwriting so you may not be able to get them after the first year you were eligible. Don't wait too long and be sure you sign up before your ailment hits your medical record. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/13/2017 7:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/12/17 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My wife got an email earlier this year from Toyota, offering her a fantastic trade-in on her 2016 Toyota Camry, which had a grand total of 7,100 miles on it (which the dealer knew). So we went over to the dealership and voila!...left with a spanking new 2017 Camry and a step up in model and trim, too. I still have no idea how this happened, but the cost to her to do this was almost nothing. Funny thing is that for me I've pretty much lost interest in cars in general. As long as it runs well and is comfortable to drive I really don't care what it is. The days of styling differences and even performance differences are long over. The styling of cars today is determined by wind tunnel testing to optimize gas mileage ratings. As a result, the Toyotas, Nissans, Fords, Chevys, Hondas, etc., all look the same from 20 feet away. No question the engines have improved enormously. My brain is still stuck in the 60's and 70's when a car approaching 100k miles was ready for the junkyard. Today, it's considered "low mileage". My younger son just replaced a Saturn (one that I had for a while) with another Saturn called a "Vue". The Saturn he replaced it with had 198K miles on it and still ran fine, other than a small oil leak. The doors and side panels of Saturns are plastic, so there is no rust whatsoever on it. I bought a 2014 Volt first of March. Nicer to drive around town than the crew cab truck. Thanks to my fellow residents of the state for subsidizing my electric bill. Instead of 32 cents a KWh, I get an idea for peak rate of 11 cents. Even in gas it gets about 35 mpg. Sure easier to find a parking space. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/13/2017 8:47 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/13/17 8:22 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/13/2017 8:09 AM, amdx wrote: On 5/13/2017 6:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/12/17 8:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My wife got an email earlier this year from Toyota, offering her a fantastic trade-in on her 2016 Toyota Camry, which had a grand total of 7,100 miles on it (which the dealer knew). So we went over to the dealership and voila!...left with a spanking new 2017 Camry and a step up in model and trim, too. I still have no idea how this happened, but the cost to her to do this was almost nothing. Come on Keysor, have you done the math? Payment is the same? Did you pay anything to drive a way? Did you buy it on time? Did they add more time on to the payment program? Sheesh, I think you just wanted attention, Look at me I bought a new car too. And it didn't cost me anything. Those dealers sure are stupid. Look at me! Mikek I didn't think about it but I suspect you are right about these offers. I'll bet they only apply if you finance it through them. It just starts the interest cycle over again. I haven't financed a car purchase in about 25 years. They dealerships don't like cash buyers. I was told that only 8 percent of buyers pay cash for a new car. When I bought my truck in 2008 the salesman tried hard to convince me to finance it through Ford but I told him I wasn't interested. He then tried to get me to finance it, even if I just paid it off in a month or two. They must get some kind of kickback if the vehicle is financed through the financing arm of the manufacturer. Toyota was offering zero percent financing. As in 0%. I'm not saying the dealership doesn't get a kickback from that. Anything is possible. One way or another they are making money. It's either buried in the cost of the vehicle or some other voodoo economics but finance companies, even if an arm of the manufacturer, don't do stuff for free. When I bought my pickup in 2004, you could get reduced financing or $2500 cash back. Since I paid cash, the cash back was appreciated. Unfortunately, the People Republic of California charges sales tax on the whole amount. So you pay 9% of the rebate as sales tax. |
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On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. |
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Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. |
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On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. |
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. You can spend that kind of money for a loaded F-*50 but that will be a Lincoln with a truck bed in back. This is not Fred Sanford's F-1 |
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j |
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On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. |
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On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 12:24:06 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. The salesman can spot a sucker coming from a mile away. |
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justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. -- Posted with my iPhone 7+. |
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 12:16:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. And I thank God for small favors. |
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On 5/17/17 12:27 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. You can spend that kind of money for a loaded F-*50 but that will be a Lincoln with a truck bed in back. This is not Fred Sanford's F-1 I just remembered my dad's boatyard truck, an actual Ford V8 Model A truck with a crane he built welded onto the frame that he used to lift boats off the delivery truck. I started driving that truck around the boatyard right after I "mastered" the jeep. Truck was painted red and white and actually was kind of cool. Did you do anything but play in your youth? Maybe that's why your dad didn't put you through a decent college. He knew you wouldn't amount to anything. I worked Saturdays at the boatyard or sales showroom. You are in no position to criticize anyone's college education, as you couldn't figure out your way through an open admissions community college. |
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 09:22:03 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 12:24:06 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. The salesman can spot a sucker coming from a mile away. How much did you pay for that Bayliner again? |
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On 5/17/17 1:02 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 17 May 2017 12:16:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. And I thank God for small favors. Why? You don't do camping, either. You haul around a motel room. |
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On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 12:22:04 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 12:24:06 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. The salesman can spot a sucker coming from a mile away. You shouldn't talk about harree like that. :) |
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11:57 AMKeyser Soze .. Perhaps you, Herring, and Tim should comment only on those topics where you actually know something. , why? You don't. Greg and Richard prove you wrong in practically a daily basis. Wayne can too |
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 12:57:13 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: And yes, I know I am "mixing" average and median. Making comparisons meaningless. Nobody doubts the places that hang off the DC tit have very high incomes. You also need to look the cost of living to put all of that in perspective. $100k in DC is nothing like $100k in Ft Myers or Tampa. You would also have to compare the quality of life, commute time and other factors. |
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justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:27 PM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. You can spend that kind of money for a loaded F-*50 but that will be a Lincoln with a truck bed in back. This is not Fred Sanford's F-1 I just remembered my dad's boatyard truck, an actual Ford V8 Model A truck with a crane he built welded onto the frame that he used to lift boats off the delivery truck. I started driving that truck around the boatyard right after I "mastered" the jeep. Truck was painted red and white and actually was kind of cool. Did you do anything but play in your youth? Maybe that's why your dad didn't put you through a decent college. He knew you wouldn't amount to anything. I worked Saturdays at the boatyard or sales showroom. You are in no position to criticize anyone's college education, as you couldn't figure out your way through an open admissions community college. What sort of chores did you do? When I was really little, I washed and waxed boats and picked up the trash that found iits way to the boatyard. At around 12, I started helping out on boat rigging and boat deliveries and working the gas dock. I also sold paints and accessories in the showroom and bathed and fed the dog and pet raccoons. -- Posted with my iPhone 7+. |
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On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 3:21:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/17 2:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 12:57:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: And yes, I know I am "mixing" average and median. Making comparisons meaningless. Nobody doubts the places that hang off the DC tit have very high incomes. You also need to look the cost of living to put all of that in perspective. $100k in DC is nothing like $100k in Ft Myers or Tampa. You would also have to compare the quality of life, commute time and other factors. Yeah, well, I wouldn't want to live in SW Florida. Been to Tampa many times because of a relative there. Nice beaches. Nothing else So? I'll bet he wouldn't want to live in or near DC. I know I wouldn't. Yet go as far away from Tampa as you are from DC, and you can be in some nice country. I |
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Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j No camper. Diesel, LT crew cab. Leather, navigation, air, etc. |
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True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 12:24:06 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. The salesman can spot a sucker coming from a mile away. Referring to yourself? Window sticker on my 2004 duramax, LT was $45k. Add 9% sales tax, $1000 registration. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. Sounds like a racist comment. |
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On 5/17/17 6:52 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. Sounds like a racist comment. Really? Liking tacos is racist? Actually, here I was referring to the nickname of a Toyota Tacoma..."taco." |
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On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 6:14:17 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/17 6:52 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. Sounds like a racist comment. Really? Liking tacos is racist? Actually, here I was referring to the nickname of a Toyota Tacoma..."taco." sure its racist Harry. You got all bent out of shape when the guy talked about trumps anti-illegal stance when he said something about a 'taco truck on every corner" Don't you remember that? |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/17/17 6:52 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. Sounds like a racist comment. Really? Liking tacos is racist? Actually, here I was referring to the nickname of a Toyota Tacoma..."taco." Taco truck just s racist! |
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Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 6:52 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. Sounds like a racist comment. Really? Liking tacos is racist? Actually, here I was referring to the nickname of a Toyota Tacoma..."taco." Taco truck just s racist! Maybe you need a nap. -- Posted with my iPhone 7+. |
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On 5/17/17 8:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 6:14:17 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 6:52 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. Sounds like a racist comment. Really? Liking tacos is racist? Actually, here I was referring to the nickname of a Toyota Tacoma..."taco." sure its racist Harry. You got all bent out of shape when the guy talked about trumps anti-illegal stance when he said something about a 'taco truck on every corner" Don't you remember that? Maybe you should go see the wizard of oz, Tim. |
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8:36 PMKeyser Soze
: - show quoted text - Maybe you should go see the wizard of oz, Tim. ----- Don't know what's that to do with anything but I do have it on DVD If you wanna borrow it... |
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 15:21:39 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 5/17/17 2:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 12:57:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: And yes, I know I am "mixing" average and median. Making comparisons meaningless. Nobody doubts the places that hang off the DC tit have very high incomes. You also need to look the cost of living to put all of that in perspective. $100k in DC is nothing like $100k in Ft Myers or Tampa. You would also have to compare the quality of life, commute time and other factors. Yeah, well, I wouldn't want to live in SW Florida. Been to Tampa many times because of a relative there. Nice beaches. Nothing else I guess it depends on what you like but 11,000 northerners move to Florida every day. Personally I like the idea of beaches without sea nettles, a 12 month boating season, better weather, less pollution, less crime and less traffic but you do what you want. |
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On Wed, 17 May 2017 13:02:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 3:21:42 PM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 2:44 PM, wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 12:57:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: And yes, I know I am "mixing" average and median. Making comparisons meaningless. Nobody doubts the places that hang off the DC tit have very high incomes. You also need to look the cost of living to put all of that in perspective. $100k in DC is nothing like $100k in Ft Myers or Tampa. You would also have to compare the quality of life, commute time and other factors. Yeah, well, I wouldn't want to live in SW Florida. Been to Tampa many times because of a relative there. Nice beaches. Nothing else So? I'll bet he wouldn't want to live in or near DC. I know I wouldn't. Yet go as far away from Tampa as you are from DC, and you can be in some nice country. I I was in DC for 38 years. The happiest day of my life was seeing it in my rear view mirror. |
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Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 6:14:17 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 6:52 PM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 5/17/17 12:10 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:24:03 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/17/17 11:09 AM, Bill wrote: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:02:08 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/12/2017 6:18 PM, True North wrote: Funny you say that. One Site said the Quest was manufactured from around 2008? Until 2016. That seemed odd to me but maybe Mrs E got a good deal on a leftover 2016 model. I'm sure Richard knows the story. BTW..Toyota sent me a form letter today saying how special I am owning a 2013 Highlander and living in this geographic area. Due to high demand for my model they have a special promotions on to enable be to upgrade to a 2017 model. Aren't those car salesmen thoughtful. It is a 2016 model. Had 3K miles on it as a dealer "demo" but is warranted and titled as "new". Peppy little sucker though and quiet. All that matters is that "she" likes it. Don't know if they still make them or not. I got a similar letter about the Nissan Altima I bought just about a year ago. "Due to a shortage of clean, previously owned autos we can offer you 125% of the current market value of your 2016 Nissan Altima towards the purchase of any new Nissan product. Geeze. Gimme a chance to put a few miles on it first, will ya? My buddy went to the GMC dealer for some new tires on his 2015 diesel pickup. Came home with a 2017. They gave him $43k for the truck, $10k off the new one, a $700 Costco gift card and some other stuff. So instead of spending a grand for new tires, got a new truck for not a lot more. I keep getting these cards for the 2009 Silverado 250HD with the Duramax/Allison combo. But, I don't think I'd want to mess with the DEF crap. With mine, I don't. My son in law has a newer RAM diesel. DEF does not seem to be a problem. Put a gallon in the tank and good to go for 5000 miles or so I think. The new Trucks are nice. I am looking to replace my camper on the truck, but my 2004 will bring about $25k, so only $55k more for a new truck. I think I will stay with mine and the 160k miles. $25K + $55K more for a new truck? $80K for a pickup truck? Wowser! And I thought I was slightly nuts for dropping what I did plus a beat-up Altima for a 4WD Taco. That could include a camper. It's not hard getting a *decent* pickup up to the $70K range. http://tinyurl.com/n6wvb5j I suppose. I use mine for light hauling, mostly landscape stuff for my wife, and pulling a landscape trailer on occasion. We don't *do* camping. Why do you have a taco truck? A car can pull a landscape trailer. I like tacos. Sounds like a racist comment. Really? Liking tacos is racist? Actually, here I was referring to the nickname of a Toyota Tacoma..."taco." sure its racist Harry. You got all bent out of shape when the guy talked about trumps anti-illegal stance when he said something about a 'taco truck on every corner" Don't you remember that? Besides, other than Harry I have never heard of a a Toyota truck referred to as a Taco. |
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