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tcoop October 26th 03 11:04 PM

warning horn
 
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn, and if so, is there a way I
can test it?
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm
This is on a Hydra pontoon boat, which they don't make any more.
Thanks,
Tom



Joe Blizzard October 27th 03 12:55 AM

warning horn
 
"tcoop" wrote
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm


Looks like a horn to me.

and if so, is there a way I can test it?


Apply 12VDC to the terminals. If it makes noise, it's working. (If it makes
smoke, maybe it wasn't a horn after all.)



Florida Keyz October 27th 03 01:04 AM

warning horn
 
Looks like the buzzer used to alert of Over heat, or low oil, etc,

Tony Thomas October 27th 03 02:09 AM

warning horn
 
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn). Not the
alarm for the engine. What is it wired to. I would assume the horn
switch/button. The warning alarm for the engine is usually a small black
round device about the size of a 1/2 dollar. Some are wired under the dash
and others are wired inside the control box. The alarm should operate when
the key is turned to the ignition position but prior to cranking the engine.
If it does not, have it checked or replaced.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn, and if so, is there a way I
can test it?
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm
This is on a Hydra pontoon boat, which they don't make any more.
Thanks,
Tom





tcoop October 27th 03 03:08 AM

warning horn
 
After looking a little closer, I think your right about it maybe being the
actual boat horn. I read that the warning horn maybe under the dash on some
boats and I was hoping that was it. I was told that going into some of the
control boxes can be a tricky job due to all the wires. I really couldn't
tell where the wires for that horn go, but i feel like it is indeed the boat
horn.
You said the alarm should work when the ignition is in the on position,
prior to the cranking position. I don't quite understand what you are
talking about. Wouldn't it sound off when the engine was started? Did i
mention that I was new to boating and this is my first boat? So sorry for
maybe not understanding everything that I should, but I will learn it...:-)
Thanks for your time and your help.
Tom


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn). Not the
alarm for the engine. What is it wired to. I would assume the horn
switch/button. The warning alarm for the engine is usually a small black
round device about the size of a 1/2 dollar. Some are wired under the

dash
and others are wired inside the control box. The alarm should operate

when
the key is turned to the ignition position but prior to cranking the

engine.
If it does not, have it checked or replaced.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn, and if so, is there a way

I
can test it?
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm
This is on a Hydra pontoon boat, which they don't make any more.
Thanks,
Tom







Clams Canino October 27th 03 03:31 AM

warning horn
 
Some outboards just had a "hot horn". That *could* be a hot horn.
It seems easy enough to trace the wire colors and see where they go.

-W

"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
After looking a little closer, I think your right about it maybe being the
actual boat horn. I read that the warning horn maybe under the dash on

some
boats and I was hoping that was it. I was told that going into some of the
control boxes can be a tricky job due to all the wires. I really couldn't
tell where the wires for that horn go, but i feel like it is indeed the

boat
horn.
You said the alarm should work when the ignition is in the on position,
prior to the cranking position. I don't quite understand what you are
talking about. Wouldn't it sound off when the engine was started? Did i
mention that I was new to boating and this is my first boat? So sorry for
maybe not understanding everything that I should, but I will learn

it...:-)
Thanks for your time and your help.
Tom


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn). Not

the
alarm for the engine. What is it wired to. I would assume the horn
switch/button. The warning alarm for the engine is usually a small

black
round device about the size of a 1/2 dollar. Some are wired under the

dash
and others are wired inside the control box. The alarm should operate

when
the key is turned to the ignition position but prior to cranking the

engine.
If it does not, have it checked or replaced.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn, and if so, is there a

way
I
can test it?
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm
This is on a Hydra pontoon boat, which they don't make any more.
Thanks,
Tom









Richard Malcolm October 27th 03 11:16 AM

warning horn
 
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn).


this may sound stupid, but why not put your ear there and blow your
horn and see if that is where the sound is comming from. that way you
can eliminate or confirm that it is the boat horn.
my experience with hot horns (and it is not worth much) is that on
some boats they go off for a second when you start the boat, like the
lights on your car dashboard to show that they still work, and on some
boats the hot horn only goes off when your engine is overheating.
my other question is, if you can not trace a colored wire back to it's
source, why do you want to know what it is? remember murphy's law
about if it ain't broke, don't fix it. you must be like me, I can't
help myself, always wanting to learn about things, but not really
there yet. good luck and enjoy boating along with the rest of us.

Paul October 27th 03 11:25 AM

warning horn
 
Well I would recommend that maybe you don't put your ear there. Just put
your finger on it, that should do. You'll feel the vibration.

In order to test the alarms on my engines I need to leave the keys in the on
positions but *not* start the engines. After a few minutes the alarm will
sound.



"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message

news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn).


this may sound stupid, but why not put your ear there and blow your
horn and see if that is where the sound is comming from. that way you
can eliminate or confirm that it is the boat horn.
my experience with hot horns (and it is not worth much) is that on
some boats they go off for a second when you start the boat, like the
lights on your car dashboard to show that they still work, and on some
boats the hot horn only goes off when your engine is overheating.
my other question is, if you can not trace a colored wire back to it's
source, why do you want to know what it is? remember murphy's law
about if it ain't broke, don't fix it. you must be like me, I can't
help myself, always wanting to learn about things, but not really
there yet. good luck and enjoy boating along with the rest of us.




Tony Thomas October 28th 03 12:07 AM

warning horn
 
When you first turn the ignition on, the engine warning horn should sound to
indicate it is working properly. If not, then it may not be working. What
engine do you have and what year.

--
Tony
My boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com



"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
After looking a little closer, I think your right about it maybe being the
actual boat horn. I read that the warning horn maybe under the dash on

some
boats and I was hoping that was it. I was told that going into some of the
control boxes can be a tricky job due to all the wires. I really couldn't
tell where the wires for that horn go, but i feel like it is indeed the

boat
horn.
You said the alarm should work when the ignition is in the on position,
prior to the cranking position. I don't quite understand what you are
talking about. Wouldn't it sound off when the engine was started? Did i
mention that I was new to boating and this is my first boat? So sorry for
maybe not understanding everything that I should, but I will learn

it...:-)
Thanks for your time and your help.
Tom


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn). Not

the
alarm for the engine. What is it wired to. I would assume the horn
switch/button. The warning alarm for the engine is usually a small

black
round device about the size of a 1/2 dollar. Some are wired under the

dash
and others are wired inside the control box. The alarm should operate

when
the key is turned to the ignition position but prior to cranking the

engine.
If it does not, have it checked or replaced.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn, and if so, is there a

way
I
can test it?
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm
This is on a Hydra pontoon boat, which they don't make any more.
Thanks,
Tom









Gould 0738 October 28th 03 06:13 AM

warning horn
 
The warning horns on my last three boats would go on only after the
ignition switch was on (engine not started) for 20-45 seconds or so.
Not right away.


Hmmm. If you lost all oil pressure, would it take 20-45 seconds for suich a
system to sound off? I think you'd be stopped dead in the water by or about
then.

JimL October 28th 03 06:55 AM

warning horn
 
Hmmm, I guess in this case, the warning horn would be sounding to let
you know why your engine is now hosed. :^)

-JimL


Gould 0738 wrote:

Hmmm. If you lost all oil pressure, would it take 20-45 seconds for suich a
system to sound off? I think you'd be stopped dead in the water by or about
then.



Capt. Frank Hopkins October 28th 03 10:54 AM

warning horn
 
looks like a hornie to me. Where do the wires lead to?

Capt. Frank

tcoop wrote:
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn, and if so, is there a way I
can test it?
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm
This is on a Hydra pontoon boat, which they don't make any more.
Thanks,
Tom




Paul October 28th 03 12:32 PM

warning horn
 
Mine have the same delay and that's as per the manual. I just figured it was
the "Mercruiser way", circa 1989.

My understanding is that it is the test circuit that has the delay built in.
I *assume* that the alarm would go off right away during a fault with the
engine running.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
The warning horns on my last three boats would go on only after the
ignition switch was on (engine not started) for 20-45 seconds or so.
Not right away.


Hmmm. If you lost all oil pressure, would it take 20-45 seconds for suich

a
system to sound off? I think you'd be stopped dead in the water by or

about
then.




Gould 0738 October 28th 03 04:26 PM

warning horn
 
Let's all hope your assumption is correct and we won't ever need to find
out.


Back when my engine used to run :-(,
the warning buzzer for low oil pressure (and overheat) would come on as soon as
the key was turned. It would remain on for a second after the start button was
activated until the oil pressure climbed to about 40 pounds (enroute to 60-70)
and then shut off. I think this is a better system, only because it
demonstrates that it is working every time the engine starts.

Who waits 30-45 seconds after turning the key part way to crank an engine?
Probably nobody. The entire system could be gunny sack and you wouldn't know
it.



tcoop October 29th 03 12:07 AM

warning horn
 
I have a 40 hp 1995 Force on a pontoon. I know, the engine isn't much worth
anything, but I got it and have to make the best of it. It has been raining
here and I haven't had the chance to check out the horn. However, I don't
recall hearing anytjhing when I turned the ignition key.
Thanks for the help.
Tom

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:Pqinb.44787$e01.105545@attbi_s02...
When you first turn the ignition on, the engine warning horn should sound

to
indicate it is working properly. If not, then it may not be working.

What
engine do you have and what year.

--
Tony
My boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com



"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
After looking a little closer, I think your right about it maybe being

the
actual boat horn. I read that the warning horn maybe under the dash on

some
boats and I was hoping that was it. I was told that going into some of

the
control boxes can be a tricky job due to all the wires. I really

couldn't
tell where the wires for that horn go, but i feel like it is indeed the

boat
horn.
You said the alarm should work when the ignition is in the on position,
prior to the cranking position. I don't quite understand what you are
talking about. Wouldn't it sound off when the engine was started? Did i
mention that I was new to boating and this is my first boat? So sorry

for
maybe not understanding everything that I should, but I will learn

it...:-)
Thanks for your time and your help.
Tom


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn). Not

the
alarm for the engine. What is it wired to. I would assume the horn
switch/button. The warning alarm for the engine is usually a small

black
round device about the size of a 1/2 dollar. Some are wired under the

dash
and others are wired inside the control box. The alarm should operate

when
the key is turned to the ignition position but prior to cranking the

engine.
If it does not, have it checked or replaced.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
Can someone tell me if this is a warning horn, and if so, is there a

way
I
can test it?
http://coopscorner.com/takealook/warninghorn.htm
This is on a Hydra pontoon boat, which they don't make any more.
Thanks,
Tom











tcoop October 29th 03 12:18 AM

warning horn
 
I will go out and work some more when it quits raining. I had thought about
sounding the horn, but I do think that what i have the picture of is the
boat horn.
I havn't heard any horns when i turn the ignition on, but I did try the boat
horn when i bought the boat. It worked, but I didn;t really pay any
attention as to where the sound came from. I will find out more when the
weather clears up.
Thanks for your help and thoughts...
Tom


"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message

news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn).


this may sound stupid, but why not put your ear there and blow your
horn and see if that is where the sound is comming from. that way you
can eliminate or confirm that it is the boat horn.
my experience with hot horns (and it is not worth much) is that on
some boats they go off for a second when you start the boat, like the
lights on your car dashboard to show that they still work, and on some
boats the hot horn only goes off when your engine is overheating.
my other question is, if you can not trace a colored wire back to it's
source, why do you want to know what it is? remember murphy's law
about if it ain't broke, don't fix it. you must be like me, I can't
help myself, always wanting to learn about things, but not really
there yet. good luck and enjoy boating along with the rest of us.




Tony Thomas October 29th 03 01:23 AM

warning horn
 
The only engine horn it would have would be an overheat horn and to be
honest I don't recall that engine having an overheat horn. Someone else may
remember different.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
.. .
I will go out and work some more when it quits raining. I had thought

about
sounding the horn, but I do think that what i have the picture of is the
boat horn.
I havn't heard any horns when i turn the ignition on, but I did try the

boat
horn when i bought the boat. It worked, but I didn;t really pay any
attention as to where the sound came from. I will find out more when the
weather clears up.
Thanks for your help and thoughts...
Tom


"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message

news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn).


this may sound stupid, but why not put your ear there and blow your
horn and see if that is where the sound is comming from. that way you
can eliminate or confirm that it is the boat horn.
my experience with hot horns (and it is not worth much) is that on
some boats they go off for a second when you start the boat, like the
lights on your car dashboard to show that they still work, and on some
boats the hot horn only goes off when your engine is overheating.
my other question is, if you can not trace a colored wire back to it's
source, why do you want to know what it is? remember murphy's law
about if it ain't broke, don't fix it. you must be like me, I can't
help myself, always wanting to learn about things, but not really
there yet. good luck and enjoy boating along with the rest of us.






tcoop October 29th 03 02:51 AM

warning horn
 
The manual says there is a warning horn, but says it could be under the
dash, or in the control box. I will look for it later this week when it
quits raining. I just want to find it and make sure it is working to be on
the safe side.
Thanks Tom


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:FEEnb.53678$HS4.250915@attbi_s01...
The only engine horn it would have would be an overheat horn and to be
honest I don't recall that engine having an overheat horn. Someone else

may
remember different.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
.. .
I will go out and work some more when it quits raining. I had thought

about
sounding the horn, but I do think that what i have the picture of is the
boat horn.
I havn't heard any horns when i turn the ignition on, but I did try the

boat
horn when i bought the boat. It worked, but I didn;t really pay any
attention as to where the sound came from. I will find out more when the
weather clears up.
Thanks for your help and thoughts...
Tom


"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message

news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn).

this may sound stupid, but why not put your ear there and blow your
horn and see if that is where the sound is comming from. that way you
can eliminate or confirm that it is the boat horn.
my experience with hot horns (and it is not worth much) is that on
some boats they go off for a second when you start the boat, like the
lights on your car dashboard to show that they still work, and on some
boats the hot horn only goes off when your engine is overheating.
my other question is, if you can not trace a colored wire back to it's
source, why do you want to know what it is? remember murphy's law
about if it ain't broke, don't fix it. you must be like me, I can't
help myself, always wanting to learn about things, but not really
there yet. good luck and enjoy boating along with the rest of us.








Clams Canino October 29th 03 03:04 AM

warning horn
 
Like I said............ it's prolly a "hot horn".

-W

"tcoop" wrote in message
. ..
The manual says there is a warning horn, but says it could be under the
dash, or in the control box. I will look for it later this week when it
quits raining. I just want to find it and make sure it is working to be on
the safe side.
Thanks Tom


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:FEEnb.53678$HS4.250915@attbi_s01...
The only engine horn it would have would be an overheat horn and to be
honest I don't recall that engine having an overheat horn. Someone else

may
remember different.

--
Tony
my boats and autos - http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"tcoop" wrote in message
.. .
I will go out and work some more when it quits raining. I had thought

about
sounding the horn, but I do think that what i have the picture of is

the
boat horn.
I havn't heard any horns when i turn the ignition on, but I did try

the
boat
horn when i bought the boat. It worked, but I didn;t really pay any
attention as to where the sound came from. I will find out more when

the
weather clears up.
Thanks for your help and thoughts...
Tom


"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:47%mb.38895$e01.85121@attbi_s02...
Looks to me like the horn for the boat itself (like a car horn).

this may sound stupid, but why not put your ear there and blow your
horn and see if that is where the sound is comming from. that way

you
can eliminate or confirm that it is the boat horn.
my experience with hot horns (and it is not worth much) is that on
some boats they go off for a second when you start the boat, like

the
lights on your car dashboard to show that they still work, and on

some
boats the hot horn only goes off when your engine is overheating.
my other question is, if you can not trace a colored wire back to

it's
source, why do you want to know what it is? remember murphy's law
about if it ain't broke, don't fix it. you must be like me, I can't
help myself, always wanting to learn about things, but not really
there yet. good luck and enjoy boating along with the rest of us.










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