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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:53:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/27/17 7:45 AM, True North wrote:
JohnnyMop swishes his head...

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.


Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.

"Everyone's held off for a long while."



I see one of your main turds, Justine, is still taking shots at me while hiding behind her mama's apron.
That's quite a motley crew y'all have. You must have been quite the leader in the US Army.


FlaJim doesn't have a boat. Herring allegedly bought a used boat last
year, but is too embarrassed about its looks to discuss it here. I'd
call them a pair of rat turds, but that would be insulting to decent
rats in every alley.

What questions do you have about my boat, Krause? I'm not too embarrassed to discuss anything,
unlike you. Perhaps it's because I've not told the lies you have?

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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:21:31 AM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:53:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/27/17 7:45 AM, True North wrote:
JohnnyMop swishes his head...

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.


Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.

"Everyone's held off for a long while."



I see one of your main turds, Justine, is still taking shots at me while hiding behind her mama's apron.
That's quite a motley crew y'all have. You must have been quite the leader in the US Army.


FlaJim doesn't have a boat. Herring allegedly bought a used boat last
year, but is too embarrassed about its looks to discuss it here. I'd
call them a pair of rat turds, but that would be insulting to decent
rats in every alley.

What questions do you have about my boat, Krause? I'm not too embarrassed to discuss anything,
unlike you. Perhaps it's because I've not told the lies you have?

Funny that Mr. Moobs, who allegedly has some mysterious boat he won't show or talk about here, would say that about someone else.

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On 4/27/17 9:21 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:53:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/27/17 7:45 AM, True North wrote:
JohnnyMop swishes his head...

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.


Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.

"Everyone's held off for a long while."



I see one of your main turds, Justine, is still taking shots at me while hiding behind her mama's apron.
That's quite a motley crew y'all have. You must have been quite the leader in the US Army.


FlaJim doesn't have a boat. Herring allegedly bought a used boat last
year, but is too embarrassed about its looks to discuss it here. I'd
call them a pair of rat turds, but that would be insulting to decent
rats in every alley.

What questions do you have about my boat, Krause? I'm not too embarrassed to discuss anything,
unlike you. Perhaps it's because I've not told the lies you have?


Where did you read that I had questions?

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On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?


What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.

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On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?


What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?


What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Flats boat with a propeller tearing up the grass and stirring up the
bottom.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 06:34:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?

It is pretty much both but they cite destruction of habitat.
It is all part of limiting motorized vehicles in national parks. They
started in Everglades Park and then expanded that to Big Cypress and
the other smaller tracts most people never heard of. The last I heard
that also expanded to picayune strand a state preserve. In some cases
they just limit engine size but in the case of an air boat that is a
distinction without a difference. There are no 9.9 HP air boats ;-)

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:40:02 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Flats boat with a propeller tearing up the grass and stirring up the
bottom.

Most of the places they let you run these days is deep enough for my
boat without touching the bottom, at least in the summer. Right now,
as dry as it is a Jeep might be the best choice.

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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:41:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?

Most of the ones we hear of who did not return happen in the gulf or
bay. I don't remember anyone paddling who was "eat by a gator" but I
suppose it happens. Most people in gator attacks were on the bank
leaning over the water, fishing or just screwing with the gator. The
guy at Judy's place who was bitten lured the gator up to the shore
chasing his bait and was surprised when it decided his leg might taste
better. It was still just a nip but the dumb snowbird SOB is suing
anyway.

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On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak or
flats boat.

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On 4/27/17 5:03 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak or
flats boat.


Most? In excess of 50% is good in your book, I suppose.


Not to worry. Since you are a piece of ****, you'll float.

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On 4/27/17 5:04 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak or
flats boat.


Flats boat? Is that like a Carolina skiff?

No, but a Carolina Skiff would do.

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On 4/27/2017 4:30 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak or
flats boat.


It was an attempt at humor Harry.

Down the street from the house we had in Florida there was a small
business that rented canoes. It was located on a small river, actually
more like a large brook, that wound it's way for over a mile through
heavy natural growth, trees with limbs that overhung the water and
loaded with wild life. The wild life included alligators that stared at
you as you floated by and snakes that were hanging in the tree branches.
They had never had any attacks but you had to sign a hold harmless
statement before renting the canoe.

We also had a man-made small lake directly behind one of the houses we
owned. The water line was about 20 yards from the deck on the back of
the house. The lake had a resident alligator who we saw everyday as it
made it's slow patrol around the lake. I had one of those 10 foot
plastic Jon boats with an electric motor on it and I often went fishing
on the little lake. Saw the alligator a few times eyeing me but he ..
it was actually a "she" .. never bothered me.

I've previously described the events that happened one day when another
alligator tried to move in with her. The intruder didn't last long and
it happened right before our eyes.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:28:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/27/17 9:21 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:53:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/27/17 7:45 AM, True North wrote:
JohnnyMop swishes his head...

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.


Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.

"Everyone's held off for a long while."



I see one of your main turds, Justine, is still taking shots at me while hiding behind her mama's apron.
That's quite a motley crew y'all have. You must have been quite the leader in the US Army.


FlaJim doesn't have a boat. Herring allegedly bought a used boat last
year, but is too embarrassed about its looks to discuss it here. I'd
call them a pair of rat turds, but that would be insulting to decent
rats in every alley.

What questions do you have about my boat, Krause? I'm not too embarrassed to discuss anything,
unlike you. Perhaps it's because I've not told the lies you have?


Where did you read that I had questions?

Well, you stated I was too embarrassed to discuss it here. What would you like discussed? You're the
one who brought it up.

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justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!
In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.


Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?

What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Some people use jon boats with Go-Devil motors but they are limited to
very shallow water.

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Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!
In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.


Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?

What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?

Salt water kayak or flats boat.

Flats boat with a propeller tearing up the grass and stirring up the
bottom.



The bass fishermen use bass boats - I have one. You are limited to the
canals that were dredged by the USACE but there are hundreds of miles
you can travel. You won't find too many flats boats unless you go to
Florida Bay.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak
or flats boat.


That's in Florida Bay. Part of Everglades National Park but not the
REAL Everglades...

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/27/2017 4:30 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex
wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or
destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak or
flats boat.


It was an attempt at humor Harry.

Down the street from the house we had in Florida there was a small
business that rented canoes. It was located on a small river, actually
more like a large brook, that wound it's way for over a mile through
heavy natural growth, trees with limbs that overhung the water and
loaded with wild life. The wild life included alligators that stared
at you as you floated by and snakes that were hanging in the tree
branches. They had never had any attacks but you had to sign a hold
harmless statement before renting the canoe.

We also had a man-made small lake directly behind one of the houses we
owned. The water line was about 20 yards from the deck on the back of
the house. The lake had a resident alligator who we saw everyday as
it made it's slow patrol around the lake. I had one of those 10 foot
plastic Jon boats with an electric motor on it and I often went
fishing on the little lake. Saw the alligator a few times eyeing me
but he .. it was actually a "she" .. never bothered me.

I've previously described the events that happened one day when
another alligator tried to move in with her. The intruder didn't last
long and it happened right before our eyes.


They will run after your bait or lures.

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Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:28:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/27/17 9:21 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:53:13 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/27/17 7:45 AM, True North wrote:
JohnnyMop swishes his head...

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.

And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.

Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.
"Everyone's held off for a long while."



I see one of your main turds, Justine, is still taking shots at me while hiding behind her mama's apron.
That's quite a motley crew y'all have. You must have been quite the leader in the US Army.

FlaJim doesn't have a boat. Herring allegedly bought a used boat last
year, but is too embarrassed about its looks to discuss it here. I'd
call them a pair of rat turds, but that would be insulting to decent
rats in every alley.
What questions do you have about my boat, Krause? I'm not too embarrassed to discuss anything,
unlike you. Perhaps it's because I've not told the lies you have?

Where did you read that I had questions?
Well, you stated I was too embarrassed to discuss it here. What would you like discussed? You're the
one who brought it up.


He's not entitled to a response. You own a boat and he doesn't. That's
all he needs to know.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:47:39 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!
In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.


The park is less than 20% of the Everglades. There is plenty of public
access left.

That is not what the guys are saying around here. The amount of
unrestricted public land is rapidly approaching zero (the government
owns or controls more than just that one park).
There is certainly some privately owned land in the swamp that hasn't
been drained for sugar but it is not "public access". Even those
people are getting government pressure. ~10 years ago was the last
time I was on an airboat and even then they were complaining about how
few place we could go.

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On 4/27/2017 8:05 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/27/2017 4:30 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex
wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or
destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak or
flats boat.


It was an attempt at humor Harry.

Down the street from the house we had in Florida there was a small
business that rented canoes. It was located on a small river, actually
more like a large brook, that wound it's way for over a mile through
heavy natural growth, trees with limbs that overhung the water and
loaded with wild life. The wild life included alligators that stared
at you as you floated by and snakes that were hanging in the tree
branches. They had never had any attacks but you had to sign a hold
harmless statement before renting the canoe.

We also had a man-made small lake directly behind one of the houses we
owned. The water line was about 20 yards from the deck on the back of
the house. The lake had a resident alligator who we saw everyday as
it made it's slow patrol around the lake. I had one of those 10 foot
plastic Jon boats with an electric motor on it and I often went
fishing on the little lake. Saw the alligator a few times eyeing me
but he .. it was actually a "she" .. never bothered me.

I've previously described the events that happened one day when
another alligator tried to move in with her. The intruder didn't last
long and it happened right before our eyes.


They will run after your bait or lures.


This one was crafty. After three years it had become large ... about 8
feet and the Florida Fish and Wildlife department set traps to catch it.
The traps were hooks hanging on lines from low branches on which a
rotting chicken carcass was placed. I watched several times as the
alligator approached the chicken, stopped about 10 feet away from it and
just laid there in the water eyeing it. Then, after about 15-20 minutes
it would submerge and I thought for sure it was closing in for an
attack. Instead, it would just swim away, ignoring it. This went on
for a month or so. The chicken was replaced every few days.

They finally got it however but not by using a trap.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:06:29 -0400, Alex wrote:

He's not entitled to a response. You own a boat and he doesn't. That's
all he needs to know.

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And we know from past experience that any information you provide to
Harree can, and will, be used against you. That's his modus operandi,
sick, twisted, **** that he is.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:42:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I had one of those 10 foot
plastic Jon boats with an electric motor on it and I often went fishing
on the little lake. Saw the alligator a few times eyeing me but he ..
it was actually a "she" .. never bothered me.

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I'd be interested in knowing how you determined the gender of the
gator?

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On 4/28/2017 10:42 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:42:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I had one of those 10 foot
plastic Jon boats with an electric motor on it and I often went fishing
on the little lake. Saw the alligator a few times eyeing me but he ..
it was actually a "she" .. never bothered me.

===

I'd be interested in knowing how you determined the gender of the
gator?

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One day we noticed a whole bunch of little baby alligators. Actually
heard them first. I think the resident female alligator must have snuck
out at some point for a one night stand.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:03:37 -0400, Alex wrote:

I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak
or flats boat.


That's in Florida Bay. Part of Everglades National Park but not the
REAL Everglades...

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Our main experience with the Everglades has been via Little Shark
River inlet and the backcountry beyond. There are quite a few flats
boats fishing that area, not many kayaks however since there's no
nearby place to launch them. We were exploring in our dinghy once and
came upon a disabled flats boat who was unable to make contact with
his buddy in another boat. We ended up towing him several miles back
to the chickee hut where his friend was. SeaTow took him out the next
day. You can get in real trouble back there since there is virtually
no cell phone service and marine VHF reception is spotty unless you
have a very good antenna.

Another time we were headed north on the big boat, 3 or 4 miles
offshore from that area, when we heard a mayday call on the VHF. A
group of people with a Boston Whaler had run themselves hard agound in
the backcountry and couldn't get unstuck. They couldn't reach USCG or
the park service because their radio was a small handheld. We were in
no position to help them but relayed their plight and location to USCG
in the Keys.

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:47:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

One day we noticed a whole bunch of little baby alligators. Actually
heard them first. I think the resident female alligator must have snuck
out at some point for a one night stand.

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Interesting. Do the female gators care for their young?

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On 4/28/17 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:47:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

One day we noticed a whole bunch of little baby alligators. Actually
heard them first. I think the resident female alligator must have snuck
out at some point for a one night stand.

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They're only pro-life until the eggs hatch... :)

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On 4/28/2017 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:47:36 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

One day we noticed a whole bunch of little baby alligators. Actually
heard them first. I think the resident female alligator must have snuck
out at some point for a one night stand.

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I have no idea. I've heard that the male (if he's around) will eat the
young. Maybe the female does also. We saw and heard them (they make
an unmistakable sound) for a few days and then they were gone.

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:55:57 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 5:03 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a kayak or
flats boat.


Most? In excess of 50% is good in your book, I suppose.


Not to worry. Since you are a piece of ****, you'll float.


My goodness. That mouth of yours is as disgusting as Slammer's.
Aparently your thin skin causes you to erupt with vulgarities. If
you'd lose a hundred pounds or so you might not get so many fat
jokes thrown at you.

He did do a lot of complaining about his pustules...or was that about his CZ pistols?

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 05:29:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


This one was crafty. After three years it had become large ... about 8
feet and the Florida Fish and Wildlife department set traps to catch it.
The traps were hooks hanging on lines from low branches on which a
rotting chicken carcass was placed. I watched several times as the
alligator approached the chicken, stopped about 10 feet away from it and
just laid there in the water eyeing it. Then, after about 15-20 minutes
it would submerge and I thought for sure it was closing in for an
attack. Instead, it would just swim away, ignoring it. This went on
for a month or so. The chicken was replaced every few days.

They finally got it however but not by using a trap.

They still have not been able to catch the one that bit the guy at my
wife's place but they are not really trying that hard. If they sent an
old redneck in there at night he would be gone.

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:03:01 -0400,
wrote:

You can get in real trouble back there since there is virtually
no cell phone service and marine VHF reception is spotty unless you
have a very good antenna.

If you had a marine antenna on an old AMPS66 phone you had pretty good
service all over that area. My Pine Island buddy was limping home from
Marathon in his 23' Rabalo with a banged up prop (coral head in the
keys) He got into trouble in the Florida bay and tried to raise
someone on the VHF 16 with no joy. Then his phone rang. It was his
neighbor asking if he was OK since he was running late. He was still
underway so it was not a 911 thing. They stayed in contact on the
phone regularly until he cleared the Naples fishing pier. At that
point he knew I could come get him if things went south.

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:07:23 -0400,
wrote:


Interesting. Do the female gators care for their young?


.... like a Jewish mother. Dad might eat them tho.

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In article , says...

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 05:29:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


This one was crafty. After three years it had become large ... about 8
feet and the Florida Fish and Wildlife department set traps to catch it.
The traps were hooks hanging on lines from low branches on which a
rotting chicken carcass was placed. I watched several times as the
alligator approached the chicken, stopped about 10 feet away from it and
just laid there in the water eyeing it. Then, after about 15-20 minutes
it would submerge and I thought for sure it was closing in for an
attack. Instead, it would just swim away, ignoring it. This went on
for a month or so. The chicken was replaced every few days.

They finally got it however but not by using a trap.

They still have not been able to catch the one that bit the guy at my
wife's place but they are not really trying that hard. If they sent an
old redneck in there at night he would be gone.

Better load him up with hooch first, just to be sure.

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/27/2017 8:05 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/27/2017 4:30 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/27/17 3:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/27/17 11:25 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 10:28 AM, justan wrote:

On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex
wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel
off
of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

In the park itself there are not many places you can use an
airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour
operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is
done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or
destructive?



What would be your boat of choice for navigating the Everglades?


Salt water kayak or flats boat.


Go for it, dummy.

Lots of people do.

How many return?


I presume most of them. I still get a Florida fishing magazine, and
there are plenty of articles about fishing the everglades off a
kayak or
flats boat.


It was an attempt at humor Harry.

Down the street from the house we had in Florida there was a small
business that rented canoes. It was located on a small river, actually
more like a large brook, that wound it's way for over a mile through
heavy natural growth, trees with limbs that overhung the water and
loaded with wild life. The wild life included alligators that stared
at you as you floated by and snakes that were hanging in the tree
branches. They had never had any attacks but you had to sign a hold
harmless statement before renting the canoe.

We also had a man-made small lake directly behind one of the houses we
owned. The water line was about 20 yards from the deck on the back of
the house. The lake had a resident alligator who we saw everyday as
it made it's slow patrol around the lake. I had one of those 10 foot
plastic Jon boats with an electric motor on it and I often went
fishing on the little lake. Saw the alligator a few times eyeing me
but he .. it was actually a "she" .. never bothered me.

I've previously described the events that happened one day when
another alligator tried to move in with her. The intruder didn't last
long and it happened right before our eyes.


They will run after your bait or lures.


This one was crafty. After three years it had become large ... about
8 feet and the Florida Fish and Wildlife department set traps to catch
it.
The traps were hooks hanging on lines from low branches on which a
rotting chicken carcass was placed. I watched several times as the
alligator approached the chicken, stopped about 10 feet away from it
and just laid there in the water eyeing it. Then, after about 15-20
minutes it would submerge and I thought for sure it was closing in for
an attack. Instead, it would just swim away, ignoring it. This went
on for a month or so. The chicken was replaced every few days.

They finally got it however but not by using a trap.


He was probably fed by people. That is a big problem and led to the
death of a kid at Disney. Their in-house fire department allegedly fed
them and they became used to people as a food source - one way or another...

The tourist airboat captains have routinely fed the alligators to give
their customers a better experience and, of course, bigger tips. They
have busted a few fairly recently. Seems tourists record video of
everything!

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:56:12 -0700, Boating All Out
wrote:

They still have not been able to catch the one that bit the guy at my
wife's place but they are not really trying that hard. If they sent an
old redneck in there at night he would be gone.

Better load him up with hooch first, just to be sure.

Absolutely.

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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:44:19 -0400, Alex wrote:


The park is less than 20% of the Everglades. There is plenty of public
access left.
That is not what the guys are saying around here. The amount of
unrestricted public land is rapidly approaching zero (the government
owns or controls more than just that one park).
There is certainly some privately owned land in the swamp that hasn't
been drained for sugar but it is not "public access". Even those
people are getting government pressure. ~10 years ago was the last
time I was on an airboat and even then they were complaining about how
few place we could go.


EGNP is owned by the US government. The rest is owned by the state
except for some that is owned/controlled by the Native Americans.

The state is becoming as restrictive as the feds. Big Cypress,
Fakahatchee strand and Picayune strand are all limiting ORVs of all
types