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[email protected] April 26th 17 03:46 AM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 22:54:26 -0400,
wrote:

Well, it's finally finished and it looks great. In the last episode
Lou takes it out and sea trials it with a Yamaha 50, runs great.

It's now listed for sale on EBAY (without outboard), and bidding is up
to $17,000 as we speak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcFv9SO_8lQ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-16-wooden-work-skiff-built-by-Louis-Sauzedde-on-Tips-from-a-Shipwright-/201900564523?hash=item2f0236202b:g:3QoAAOSw5UZY-ngE&vxp=mtr

I'd like to see it with a small center console and helm seat but then
it wouldn't be a work boat. It's too pretty for hauling crab pots or
oyster tonging in any case.


===

Bidding on EBAY is up to $20,100, probably a fair price considering
the labor and materials that went into it.

[email protected] April 26th 17 05:12 AM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:04:27 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/25/17 11:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/25/2017 10:51 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 7:08:41 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/25/17 9:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:00:35 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/25/17 6:59 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:49:48 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/24/17 8:12 PM, Alex wrote:
wrote:
Well, it's finally finished and it looks great. In the last
episode
Lou takes it out and sea trials it with a Yamaha 50, runs great.

It's now listed for sale on EBAY (without outboard), and
bidding is up
to $17,000 as we speak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcFv9SO_8lQ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-16-wooden-work-skiff-built-by-Louis-Sauzedde-on-Tips-from-a-Shipwright-/201900564523?hash=item2f0236202b:g:3QoAAOSw5UZY-ngE&vxp=mtr



I'd like to see it with a small center console and helm seat
but then
it wouldn't be a work boat. It's too pretty for hauling crab
pots or
oyster tonging in any case.


It's nice but I would rather have this:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/622597157

My $45,000 bid didn't do it and I would have been surprised if
it did!


I remember the Sunday mornings we'd be awakened by the noise of a
pair
of airboats driven by assholes tearing up the marshlands along the
ICW...and I mean "tearing up." I'm sure you would have been among
them,
given the opportunity. Their persona non grata status was made
official
somehow as a result of excessive noise. I was hopeful their
running over
an oyster bed might perforate the bottoms of their boats but,
alas, as
far as I know, it didn't happen.

Why do you find it necessary to be so assholish? Do you think
that's endearing to someone?

You write a paragraph like the above, assholish, and then add a
paragraph like below. I suppose the
paragraph below is to show that you're 'one of the guys'. But,
when I read it I see 'bull****'
written all over the last few sentences.

This company:

http://stur-deeboat.com/amesbury-dory/

makes very nice dory style small boats that can be equipped with
seats
and a console. My dad bought and sold dozens and dozens of these
boats
when they were made of wood. We knew the original owner, who died
a few
years ago. I crossed LI Sound in one of these boats with a 15 hp
Evinrude on the stern. I think I was about 10 or 11, something like
that. Straight over to Port Jeff.

Bullahit.Sounds like another Cape Horn story. Did you get a
fireboat welcome at Port Jeff?


It's not my fault you spent your childhood shooting tree rats so you
could have dinner at night.

As for Port Jeff, it was about 12 miles max from our beach cottage. In
that range, maybe a bit less. You could see where to go because there
were large smokestacks just east of the harbor, and if you steered
just
a hair west of them, you'd end up in Port Jefferson. The harbor
entrance
was really small, so once you got over to long island, you'd have to
search a bit.

But, of course, you didn't do much boating as a kid.

And I don't have to make up kid stories in the hopes of getting
attention.


Port Jeff from Milford was an easy trip on a decent day, not much
farther than the western side of the eastern shore from Solomons. Of
course, you wouldn't know that...you had to hunt squirrels for dinner.

Should of gone around LI to meet this guy, He crossed the Atlantic
ocean with a outboard powered boat, Setting a world record.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/compo.../295445/295445



That story is strangely familiar. :-)



Different decades, different kinds of outboard boats.


Do tell, Set the record straight.

If my Dad did something like what you claim I'd be proud and the 1st one to brag about it.
You lie like a rug constantly, Have no remorse about it, Then when caught in a lie try to bull**** your way out of it everytime.

I will grant you this, The only reason this NG is still alive is because of liars like you, Albeit politics or just your lies.

Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.

Like Father Like Son!











Keyser Soze April 26th 17 11:35 AM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM, wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

[email protected] April 26th 17 01:51 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM, wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.


Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.




Keyser Soze April 26th 17 02:00 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.


Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?

[email protected] April 26th 17 02:44 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.


Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?


You really are a one trick pony.


Keyser Soze April 26th 17 02:49 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On 4/26/17 9:44 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?


You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.

[email protected] April 26th 17 03:14 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:49:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 9:44 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?


You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


Correct, I'd **** myself laughing if I met you, and if I did meet you face to face you'd just lie your way out of it anyway.

Hows the broken wrist, Still a bit limp?


Keyser Soze April 26th 17 03:19 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On 4/26/17 10:12 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/26/17 9:44 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?

You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


Did you **** your pants as you stalked Peggie at the boat show?


No, **** for brains. As I stated years ago, there was a line of people
waiting to talk to her, so I just moved on. But it is fine with me if
you want to keep on doing your usual **** here...making up tales about
other posters. Oh, and you certainly would be among those who ****ed
their pants before you'd insult them face to face.

Keyser Soze April 26th 17 03:21 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On 4/26/17 10:14 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:49:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 9:44 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?

You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


Correct, I'd **** myself laughing if I met you, and if I did meet you face to face you'd just lie your way out of it anyway.

Hows the broken wrist, Still a bit limp?


How's your dick? Still a limp bizkit?



[email protected] April 26th 17 03:45 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 7:21:15 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 10:14 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:49:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 9:44 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?

You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


Correct, I'd **** myself laughing if I met you, and if I did meet you face to face you'd just lie your way out of it anyway.

Hows the broken wrist, Still a bit limp?


How's your dick? Still a limp bizkit?


Sorry Harry, I'm not gay, not that I hold it against you.

Seems I'm the pround new owner of a One Trick Pony, Now I just need to give it a name, Suggestions anyone? Remember to keep it simple so it can keep up.


[email protected] April 26th 17 05:02 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.

Keyser Soze April 26th 17 05:14 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On 4/26/17 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.

[email protected] April 26th 17 05:29 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:14:43 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/26/17 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.


I imagine if we had a big rec.boats party most of us would leave
friends. That may just be me but it is my philosophy here as the HOA
point man. When we have some kind of feud, I get the people talking to
each other face to face. We have a pretty calm community compared to
the ones I hear of. My "community biz" on Tuesday morning is getting
the president of an HOA across the river having breakfast with the
boating chairman of the other gated community next door. They share a
fence but they never talked, they just had a feud going on that was
affecting the whole river.

Keyser Soze April 26th 17 05:44 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On 4/26/17 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:14:43 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/26/17 12:02 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.

I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.


I imagine if we had a big rec.boats party most of us would leave
friends. That may just be me but it is my philosophy here as the HOA
point man. When we have some kind of feud, I get the people talking to
each other face to face. We have a pretty calm community compared to
the ones I hear of. My "community biz" on Tuesday morning is getting
the president of an HOA across the river having breakfast with the
boating chairman of the other gated community next door. They share a
fence but they never talked, they just had a feud going on that was
affecting the whole river.


I'm still a member of a BBS from the late 1980s that at its peak had 32
incoming phone lines and more than 2000 active members. No more
dialup...it moved to "the internets." It was a strictly social operation
with lots of gatherings and parties. The snarkies were kicked off. We
had a reunion in which 150+ showed up for a private party at a clubhouse
and, sadly, a big turnout two months ago for a funeral service for a
member who lost a long battle with cancer. The first of several
Connecticut shoreline gatherings and parties is coming up shortly. These
groups have a lot of diversity in everything that matters, and there are
large numbers of...imagine it...Republicans, though I only know of three
who voted for The Orange Menace.






Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 05:44 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 9:44 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?


You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar.

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 05:44 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:12:28 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/26/17 9:44 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?

You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


Did you **** your pants as you stalked Peggie at the boat show?


Good question.

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 05:46 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:19:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 10:12 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/26/17 9:44 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 6:00:44 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 8:51 AM,
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35:35 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/26/17 12:12 AM,
wrote:


Oh and BTW your Dad was well known as a deadbeat in the marine business, never paid his bills.


I heard yo mama was so skanky, she had to wear two pairs of rubber
gloves to give handjobs for a quarter each under the boardwalk, and even
then she only brought home a dollar a day to support the drinking habits
of your many daddys.

As usual for your behavior here, you're just blowing a foul stench out
your ass.

Lol, Hit a nerve did I Krause?

Your anger here is misdirected, Google outed you and the lies you spew here years ago, You're nothing but a 1st rate liar that slings 3rd grade insults.



Nope, no nerve hit. You're just another of rec.boat's many loud-mouthed
right-wing assholes who try to hide behind a layer of anonymity. You've
got nothing to offer. So, did yo mama find a salve to cure those open
sores?

You really are a one trick pony.


Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


Did you **** your pants as you stalked Peggie at the boat show?


No, **** for brains. As I stated years ago, there was a line of people
waiting to talk to her, so I just moved on. But it is fine with me if
you want to keep on doing your usual **** here...making up tales about
other posters. Oh, and you certainly would be among those who ****ed
their pants before you'd insult them face to face.


You say that as though you and your little buddy don't make up lies about other posters.


Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 05:47 PM

TotalBoat Work Skiff Completed - Last Episode
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:14:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.


I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.


If one who knows you met you and didn't insult you, he'd be living a lie.

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 06:13 PM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:29:53 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:14:43 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/26/17 12:02 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.

I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.


I imagine if we had a big rec.boats party most of us would leave
friends. That may just be me but it is my philosophy here as the HOA
point man. When we have some kind of feud, I get the people talking to
each other face to face. We have a pretty calm community compared to
the ones I hear of. My "community biz" on Tuesday morning is getting
the president of an HOA across the river having breakfast with the
boating chairman of the other gated community next door. They share a
fence but they never talked, they just had a feud going on that was
affecting the whole river.


'Most' is probably the right choice of word.

True North[_2_] April 26th 17 07:02 PM

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Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.

Mr. Luddite April 26th 17 07:26 PM

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On 4/26/2017 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:14:43 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/26/17 12:02 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.

I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.


I imagine if we had a big rec.boats party most of us would leave
friends. That may just be me but it is my philosophy here as the HOA
point man. When we have some kind of feud, I get the people talking to
each other face to face. We have a pretty calm community compared to
the ones I hear of. My "community biz" on Tuesday morning is getting
the president of an HOA across the river having breakfast with the
boating chairman of the other gated community next door. They share a
fence but they never talked, they just had a feud going on that was
affecting the whole river.



I listened to a guy the other night who posed an interesting theory.
He said that so many people, especially young people, get a major part
of their social interaction with others via texting on cell phones.
Due to the lack of a human to human interface the cell phone
relationships can be more violent in tone, insulting, etc., because
there's no threat of physical retribution like there is in a face to
face argument that goes too far. He suggested that some of the student
riots that have occurred (like those at Berkeley) are because the people
involved don't know how to control their emotions or anger when meeting
face to face.



Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 07:56 PM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:31:36 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:14:43 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.

I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.


If one who knows you met you and didn't insult you, he'd be living a lie.


You may be the only person in rec.boats who has ever laid eyes on
Harry Krause. Now, doesn't that make you feel special.
:-)


I reckon.

Perhaps that's why I appreciate him enough to send him a check for the services he performs. He *is*
a joke, after all.

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 07:58 PM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:02:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


There's a difference between a threat of physical violence, which I most certainly did not make, and
stating a fact, which I would be most willing to do.

Can you remove your head from the flushing toilet long enough to recognize the difference?

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 07:59 PM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:26:26 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/26/2017 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:14:43 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/26/17 12:02 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Like most of the right-wing trash in here, you'd **** your pants before
you'd insult anyone here face-to-face.

I tried to meet up with you the last time I was in Maryland but you
were too busy.


Life happens. I doubt you were planning to insult me face-to-face and I
certainly wasn't going to insult you face-to-face.


I imagine if we had a big rec.boats party most of us would leave
friends. That may just be me but it is my philosophy here as the HOA
point man. When we have some kind of feud, I get the people talking to
each other face to face. We have a pretty calm community compared to
the ones I hear of. My "community biz" on Tuesday morning is getting
the president of an HOA across the river having breakfast with the
boating chairman of the other gated community next door. They share a
fence but they never talked, they just had a feud going on that was
affecting the whole river.



I listened to a guy the other night who posed an interesting theory.
He said that so many people, especially young people, get a major part
of their social interaction with others via texting on cell phones.
Due to the lack of a human to human interface the cell phone
relationships can be more violent in tone, insulting, etc., because
there's no threat of physical retribution like there is in a face to
face argument that goes too far. He suggested that some of the student
riots that have occurred (like those at Berkeley) are because the people
involved don't know how to control their emotions or anger when meeting
face to face.



Well, that and the fact that they're a bunch of FPLs, light on the 'P'.

Keyser Soze April 26th 17 08:09 PM

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On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 08:22 PM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:09:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.


What surgeries have I had 'recently'? Here you were just accusing someone else of making up stories.
The term johnnymop, in case you've not noticed, has been dropped by Donnee pretty much. It reminds
him of the hours he spent pushing one while working as a janitor for the government.

Keyser Soze April 26th 17 08:29 PM

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On 4/26/17 3:22 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:09:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.


What surgeries have I had 'recently'? Here you were just accusing someone else of making up stories.
The term johnnymop, in case you've not noticed, has been dropped by Donnee pretty much. It reminds
him of the hours he spent pushing one while working as a janitor for the government.


I don't know what Don did when he worked for the government, but if it
involved pushing a broom, well that certainly was more worthwhile than
going to Vietnam as you did and helping to kill women and children, and
burning out villages, all in order to prop up a corrupt dictatorship.

True North[_2_] April 26th 17 08:45 PM

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Poco Deplorevole
- hide quoted text -
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:09:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.


"What surgeries have I had 'recently'? Here you were just accusing someone else of making up stories.
The term johnnymop, in case you've not noticed, has been dropped by Donnee pretty much. It reminds
him of the hours he spent pushing one while working as a janitor for the government."


Wrong on two counts, JohnnyMop.
I didn't work for the Federal, Provincial or municipal government.
I was a working class hero for a Crown Corporation.
I did not work as a janitor, custodian, stationery engineer or as a plumber.
Y'all sure do have a problem remembering this.

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 09:59 PM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:29:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 3:22 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:09:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.


What surgeries have I had 'recently'? Here you were just accusing someone else of making up stories.
The term johnnymop, in case you've not noticed, has been dropped by Donnee pretty much. It reminds
him of the hours he spent pushing one while working as a janitor for the government.


I don't know what Don did when he worked for the government, but if it
involved pushing a broom, well that certainly was more worthwhile than
going to Vietnam as you did and helping to kill women and children, and
burning out villages, all in order to prop up a corrupt dictatorship.


You missed the question, liar.

Poco Deplorevole April 26th 17 10:06 PM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:45:32 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Poco Deplorevole
- hide quoted text -
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:09:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.


"What surgeries have I had 'recently'? Here you were just accusing someone else of making up stories.
The term johnnymop, in case you've not noticed, has been dropped by Donnee pretty much. It reminds
him of the hours he spent pushing one while working as a janitor for the government."


Wrong on two counts, JohnnyMop.
I didn't work for the Federal, Provincial or municipal government.
I was a working class hero for a Crown Corporation.
I did not work as a janitor, custodian, stationery engineer or as a plumber.
Y'all sure do have a problem remembering this.


Your integrity is on a par with your southern buddy's.

From Google: Crown cor·po·ra·tion
noun
(in Canada) a corporation owned by the federal or provincial government.

Your continuous references to toilets, flushing, turds, etc, belie the statement you made about your
work.

As to your heroism, see the reference to your integrity above.

Keyser Soze April 26th 17 11:01 PM

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On 4/26/17 4:59 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:29:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 3:22 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:09:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.

What surgeries have I had 'recently'? Here you were just accusing someone else of making up stories.
The term johnnymop, in case you've not noticed, has been dropped by Donnee pretty much. It reminds
him of the hours he spent pushing one while working as a janitor for the government.


I don't know what Don did when he worked for the government, but if it
involved pushing a broom, well that certainly was more worthwhile than
going to Vietnam as you did and helping to kill women and children, and
burning out villages, all in order to prop up a corrupt dictatorship.


You missed the question, liar.



I've told you this many times, JohnnyMop. I respond as I want to
respond. You're not in charge here or anywhere else. You mentioned broom
pushing and I responded to that comment. Don't like that? Shove it up
your ass.

Alex[_11_] April 27th 17 01:21 AM

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wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:08:12 -0400, Alex wrote:

Airboats have thick polymer on the hulls to protect them from branches
and other debris. Some people run theirs on dry ground. When the
polymer is worn, it's replaced.

I am old and it has been a while but the guys in Everglades City were
running regular aluminum hulls in the 80s-90s with big V-8s and a
prop.
45 is still a fast boat tho. You don't really want to be going that
fast if you are actually in the swamp running around tho. This isn't
about speed, it is about getting anywhere you want to go. Some of the
hard core guys had nitrous systems to get off that hump they were
stuck on.



The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!

Alex[_11_] April 27th 17 01:25 AM

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True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.



And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.

[email protected] April 27th 17 05:31 AM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!


In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.

Poco Deplorevole April 27th 17 11:25 AM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:01:46 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 4:59 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:29:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 3:22 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:09:08 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/26/17 2:02 PM, True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


If you saw JohnnyMop and took into account all the surgeries he's had
recently, you'd appreciate that a girl scout could cold-cock him.

What surgeries have I had 'recently'? Here you were just accusing someone else of making up stories.
The term johnnymop, in case you've not noticed, has been dropped by Donnee pretty much. It reminds
him of the hours he spent pushing one while working as a janitor for the government.


I don't know what Don did when he worked for the government, but if it
involved pushing a broom, well that certainly was more worthwhile than
going to Vietnam as you did and helping to kill women and children, and
burning out villages, all in order to prop up a corrupt dictatorship.


You missed the question, liar.



I've told you this many times, JohnnyMop. I respond as I want to
respond. You're not in charge here or anywhere else. You mentioned broom
pushing and I responded to that comment. Don't like that? Shove it up
your ass.


Only a real pussy would ignore a question just because it backed him into a bit of a corner.

You stated I'd had all these surgeries recently. I asked what surgeries have I had recently.

You can't answer 'cause the answer is 'none'. Yet you whine about others making up stories about
you, et al, in the group.

You're a liar.

Poco Deplorevole April 27th 17 11:26 AM

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.



And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.


Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.


Everyone's held off for a long while.

Keyser Soze April 27th 17 11:34 AM

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On 4/27/17 12:31 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:21:54 -0400, Alex wrote:

The Everglades is full of wide open trails. If you travel off of them
you don't want to be going 20mph!


In the park itself there are not many places you can use an airboat if
any. The intent is to eliminate it altogether. Air boat tour operators
who used have an exemption are losing them. Most of this is done on
private property.



Is that because airboats are considered a nuisance or destructive?

True North[_2_] April 27th 17 12:45 PM

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JohnnyMop swishes his head...

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.



And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.


Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.


"Everyone's held off for a long while."



I see one of your main turds, Justine, is still taking shots at me while hiding behind her mama's apron.
That's quite a motley crew y'all have. You must have been quite the leader in the US Army.

Keyser Soze April 27th 17 12:53 PM

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On 4/27/17 7:45 AM, True North wrote:
JohnnyMop swishes his head...

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
Poco Deplorevole
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:49:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

- show quoted text -
"Harry, do you think I'd **** my pants before I'd insult you face to face? Let's meet at a McD's
somewhere. I'd be glad to tell you face to face that you're a liar."



WOW!
Y'all are sounding more like Scott Secord Dickson and his Mini Me, L'il Snot, every day.
They were both exposed as empty threat buffoons.


And you were exposed as a dumb lemming who buys ****ty boats.


Someone was bound to say it sooner or later.


"Everyone's held off for a long while."



I see one of your main turds, Justine, is still taking shots at me while hiding behind her mama's apron.
That's quite a motley crew y'all have. You must have been quite the leader in the US Army.


FlaJim doesn't have a boat. Herring allegedly bought a used boat last
year, but is too embarrassed about its looks to discuss it here. I'd
call them a pair of rat turds, but that would be insulting to decent
rats in every alley.


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