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Mr. Luddite April 2nd 17 06:51 PM

Question for Progressives
 

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Poco Deplorevole April 2nd 17 06:56 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.

Tim April 2nd 17 07:13 PM

Question for Progressives
 
Give here a ski mask and she'd be ready to bust up a Starbucks

Keyser Soze April 2nd 17 11:26 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.

Mr. Luddite April 2nd 17 11:38 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.



She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



Keyser Soze April 3rd 17 11:17 AM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.



She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.

Mr. Luddite April 3rd 17 11:44 AM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.



She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.



I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.

Keyser Söze April 3rd 17 01:05 PM

Question for Progressives
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.



I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I

--
Posted with my iPhone 7+.

Mr. Luddite April 3rd 17 01:32 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.



I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.



Tim April 3rd 17 01:45 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:32:49 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.


I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online venues.. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.


Well, it's easy to be fair and balanced when you have choices to pick from like the kos, salon, beast etc. You get to pick the slant you want to agree with at the moment.

Keyser Söze April 3rd 17 02:04 PM

Question for Progressives
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.


I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.




Fox is a bull**** site.

--
Posted with my iPhone 7+.

Tim April 3rd 17 02:37 PM

Question for Progressives
 

8:04 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Fox is a bull**** site.
- show quoted text -
....

No more (or less) than anyone else...

Mr. Luddite April 3rd 17 02:38 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 9:04 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance, she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.


I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.




Fox is a bull**** site.


Yabut they have the best looking women. :-)





Mr. Luddite April 3rd 17 02:47 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 9:37 AM, Tim wrote:

8:04 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Fox is a bull**** site.
- show quoted text -
...

No more (or less) than anyone else...



It's really fun to channel surf whenever there is a "breaking news"
story and see/listen to the commentary (or lack of).

On CNN it's all, "Russia, Russia, Russia".

Same with Maddow on MSNBC. All she's been cackling about since the
election is "Russia, Russia, Russia" and how Trump is in bed with Putin.





Keyser Soze April 3rd 17 02:57 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does
wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance,
she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology
skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.


I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online
venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.



I used to watch Fox a bit, but the bull**** factor was just too high and
too obvious.

Mr. Luddite April 3rd 17 03:13 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 9:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/3/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does
wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance,
she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than
any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology
skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.


I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people
involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online
venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.



I used to watch Fox a bit, but the bull**** factor was just too high and
too obvious.



Completely understandable given your politics and years of brainwashing
by progressive liberals. Your new DNC chairman is a trip.
Still claims that Trump was not legally elected POTUS. Maybe he needs
one of those pocket sized copies of the US Constitution.

Meanwhile, with an eye on 2018, the Dems are continuing their attempt to
brainwash the public with "Russia, Russia, Russia" and Trump's
involvement with Putin during the campaign and transition. The fact
that to date there has been no evidence (let alone proof) that Trump
conspired with the Russians doesn't matter. Just keep repeating the
"Russia, Russia, Russia" mantra to keep it fresh in everyone's minds.



Keyser Soze April 3rd 17 04:03 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/17 10:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 9:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/3/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does
wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance,
she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than
any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology
skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.


I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand) just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people
involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have
yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online
venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.



I used to watch Fox a bit, but the bull**** factor was just too high and
too obvious.



Completely understandable given your politics and years of brainwashing
by progressive liberals. Your new DNC chairman is a trip.
Still claims that Trump was not legally elected POTUS. Maybe he needs
one of those pocket sized copies of the US Constitution.

Meanwhile, with an eye on 2018, the Dems are continuing their attempt to
brainwash the public with "Russia, Russia, Russia" and Trump's
involvement with Putin during the campaign and transition. The fact
that to date there has been no evidence (let alone proof) that Trump
conspired with the Russians doesn't matter. Just keep repeating the
"Russia, Russia, Russia" mantra to keep it fresh in everyone's minds.



In Russia, I am waiting for the chips to fall. There are a lot of
chips, and the stacks seem to get higher almost every day.

[email protected] April 3rd 17 05:45 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:47:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/3/2017 9:37 AM, Tim wrote:

8:04 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Fox is a bull**** site.
- show quoted text -
...

No more (or less) than anyone else...



It's really fun to channel surf whenever there is a "breaking news"
story and see/listen to the commentary (or lack of).

On CNN it's all, "Russia, Russia, Russia".

Same with Maddow on MSNBC. All she's been cackling about since the
election is "Russia, Russia, Russia" and how Trump is in bed with Putin.


I still think this Russia thing is just a distraction. Are we really
gridlocking the government over a few leaked Emails that told us
nothing that we did not already know? I do not believe they swung a
single vote and I have a hard time believing anyone with their head a
quarter inch out of their ass does either. This is just the Democrat
Benghazi.

I do think that after 70 years of USIA, Radio Free Europe, TV Marti
and far more overt CIA operations that involved taking down whole
governments, propping up dictators and assassinations, we have a lot
of balls saying these innocuous Emails are "meddling" or
"interfering".

Mr. Luddite April 3rd 17 05:50 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 11:03 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/3/17 10:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 9:57 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/3/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 6:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/2/17 1:56 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:51:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

Let's see how many times Harry can refer to 'you' in his reply.


I've never noticed what clothing Ms. Maddow wears. But she does
wear her
Ph.D from Oxford well, and on any measurement of significance,
she's a
lot higher on the scale of human decency and intelligence than
any of
the snarky right-wingers here.


She was a lot more entertaining and educational when she used to
mix
drinks on her show.



I don't watch her as much as you do, but I have seen her mixology
skills
demonstrated a few times so far this year.


I watch her for brief periods of time (as much as I can stand)
just to
get a view factor of where the ultra left is at compared to the ultra
right and everybody in between. I don't bury my head in the sand and
listen only to what I *want* to hear. Samplings from MSNBC, CNN and
FoxNews gives a broad spectrum of current politics.

Breaking news over the weekend. Seems events are getting closer to
outing the "leaker" who illegally unmasked the Trump people
involved in
intercepted phone calls. Naturally, the liberal media outlets have
yet
to even mention this development.


I get most of my news from print sources. Including their online
venues. I
don't watch Fox.
I


Maybe that is your problem. The majority of the news from print
sources
and their websites are highly biased towards progressive liberal views.
A worthwhile debate is to consider *all* sides.



I used to watch Fox a bit, but the bull**** factor was just too high and
too obvious.



Completely understandable given your politics and years of brainwashing
by progressive liberals. Your new DNC chairman is a trip.
Still claims that Trump was not legally elected POTUS. Maybe he needs
one of those pocket sized copies of the US Constitution.

Meanwhile, with an eye on 2018, the Dems are continuing their attempt to
brainwash the public with "Russia, Russia, Russia" and Trump's
involvement with Putin during the campaign and transition. The fact
that to date there has been no evidence (let alone proof) that Trump
conspired with the Russians doesn't matter. Just keep repeating the
"Russia, Russia, Russia" mantra to keep it fresh in everyone's minds.



In Russia, I am waiting for the chips to fall. There are a lot of
chips, and the stacks seem to get higher almost every day.



Other than Democrats reciting "Russia, Russia, Russia" there are no
chips on the table yet.



[email protected] April 3rd 17 05:50 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 11:03:39 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


In Russia, I am waiting for the chips to fall. There are a lot of
chips, and the stacks seem to get higher almost every day.


You should be a little worried that once we build this big of an
investigative staff, they might reopen the Clinton CGI investigations
once they are through with Trump.
I am willing to just say she is done, leave her alone (as is Trump)
but there are plenty of "lock her up" people out there. I admit all of
this is more about getting even than getting justice ... on both
sides.

Mr. Luddite April 3rd 17 05:57 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 12:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:47:17 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/3/2017 9:37 AM, Tim wrote:

8:04 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Fox is a bull**** site.
- show quoted text -
...

No more (or less) than anyone else...



It's really fun to channel surf whenever there is a "breaking news"
story and see/listen to the commentary (or lack of).

On CNN it's all, "Russia, Russia, Russia".

Same with Maddow on MSNBC. All she's been cackling about since the
election is "Russia, Russia, Russia" and how Trump is in bed with Putin.


I still think this Russia thing is just a distraction. Are we really
gridlocking the government over a few leaked Emails that told us
nothing that we did not already know? I do not believe they swung a
single vote and I have a hard time believing anyone with their head a
quarter inch out of their ass does either. This is just the Democrat
Benghazi.

I do think that after 70 years of USIA, Radio Free Europe, TV Marti
and far more overt CIA operations that involved taking down whole
governments, propping up dictators and assassinations, we have a lot
of balls saying these innocuous Emails are "meddling" or
"interfering".



You can take it to the bank that the Democrats are going to keep the
"Russia, Russia, Russia" chant up to and during the 2018 elections.
You'll also hear the chant in ever increasing numbers whenever the Trump
administration has some good news to report.

It's all they have. That and a nut case as the DNC chair who is
whipping up the emotions by screaming that Trump is not legally the POTUS.



Alex[_10_] April 4th 17 12:21 AM

Question for Progressives
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58

Its Me April 4th 17 01:14 AM

Question for Progressives
 
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58


Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.

[email protected] April 4th 17 01:18 AM

Question for Progressives
 
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 19:21:59 -0400, Alex wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58


I heard somewhere else that Rachel Madcow is now saying she has the
proof that Pence will go down with Trump.
President Ryan ... cool.
Of course this "proof" is as much bull**** as her hype of the tax
return.

Mr. Luddite April 4th 17 10:19 AM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58



Yup. She wore the grey version last night. First time I've ever seen
anything other than black. Maybe she reads rec.boats ?



Mr. Luddite April 4th 17 10:20 AM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58


Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points, over
and over and over. I listen just long enough to see what "breaking
news" she thinks she has uncovered.



Tim April 4th 17 11:57 AM

Question for Progressives
 
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:21:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58


Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points, over
and over and over.


I know, that cn get old. Harry does the same thing. over..and over...and over...

Mr. Luddite April 4th 17 12:08 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/2017 6:57 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:21:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58

Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points, over
and over and over.


I know, that cn get old. Harry does the same thing. over..and over...and over...



It's a progressive liberal thing. If you keep repeating the same BS
over and over and over eventually it becomes "true".



Keyser Soze April 4th 17 12:53 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/17 7:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 6:57 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:21:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58


Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points, over
and over and over.


I know, that cn get old. Harry does the same thing. over..and
over...and over...



It's a progressive liberal thing. If you keep repeating the same BS
over and over and over eventually it becomes "true".




You mean, like religion? :)

Keyser Soze April 4th 17 12:55 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/17 5:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?


She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58




Yup. She wore the grey version last night. First time I've ever seen
anything other than black. Maybe she reads rec.boats ?




Ahh, rec.boats, where simple minds go for their daily dose of
superficiality. But what color are her shoes? And does johnny the racist
cut off the crusts of the bread he uses to make PB&J sandwiches?

Mr. Luddite April 4th 17 12:55 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/2017 7:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 7:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 6:57 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:21:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58



Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points, over
and over and over.

I know, that cn get old. Harry does the same thing. over..and
over...and over...



It's a progressive liberal thing. If you keep repeating the same BS
over and over and over eventually it becomes "true".




You mean, like religion? :)


Pretty much. The progressive liberal agenda *is* a religion to them.

Mr. Luddite April 4th 17 01:00 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/2017 7:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 5:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58





Yup. She wore the grey version last night. First time I've ever seen
anything other than black. Maybe she reads rec.boats ?




Ahh, rec.boats, where simple minds go for their daily dose of
superficiality. But what color are her shoes? And does johnny the racist
cut off the crusts of the bread he uses to make PB&J sandwiches?



Sorta the same as the left criticizing Pence because he doesn't think a
private dinner with another woman is appropriate. It's not up to them
to judge.

Maddow's outfits are a bit strange though. As a TV personality one
would think that she'd have more of a wardrobe. That's why I started
thinking maybe it's symbolic of something that I don't have any
knowledge of. She could have co-starred on the "Munsters".



Keyser Soze April 4th 17 01:01 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/17 7:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 7:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 7:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 6:57 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:21:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58




Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points, over
and over and over.

I know, that cn get old. Harry does the same thing. over..and
over...and over...



It's a progressive liberal thing. If you keep repeating the same BS
over and over and over eventually it becomes "true".




You mean, like religion? :)


Pretty much. The progressive liberal agenda *is* a religion to them.


Really? I'll have to ask some of my more progressive liberal friends. Of
course, liberal implies one favors progress, as opposed to conservative,
which has come to mean **** everyone except the rich and the white.

Keyser Soze April 4th 17 01:09 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/17 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 7:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 5:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58






Yup. She wore the grey version last night. First time I've ever seen
anything other than black. Maybe she reads rec.boats ?




Ahh, rec.boats, where simple minds go for their daily dose of
superficiality. But what color are her shoes? And does johnny the racist
cut off the crusts of the bread he uses to make PB&J sandwiches?



Sorta the same as the left criticizing Pence because he doesn't think a
private dinner with another woman is appropriate. It's not up to them
to judge.


Sure it is. It indicates Pence is driven by weird religious beliefs or,
like Trump, he can't control himself in the presence of women but,
unlike Trump, realizes his addiction and stays away. Personally, I think
it is related to his weird fundamentalist religious bull**** beliefs.



Maddow's outfits are a bit strange though. As a TV personality one
would think that she'd have more of a wardrobe. That's why I started
thinking maybe it's symbolic of something that I don't have any
knowledge of. She could have co-starred on the "Munsters".


Being less superficial, I pay attention to what she says and writes, and
not what she wears.



Mr. Luddite April 4th 17 01:09 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/2017 8:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 7:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 7:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 7:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 6:57 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:21:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58





Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points,
over
and over and over.

I know, that cn get old. Harry does the same thing. over..and
over...and over...



It's a progressive liberal thing. If you keep repeating the same BS
over and over and over eventually it becomes "true".




You mean, like religion? :)


Pretty much. The progressive liberal agenda *is* a religion to them.



Really? I'll have to ask some of my more progressive liberal friends. Of
course, liberal implies one favors progress, as opposed to conservative,
which has come to mean **** everyone except the rich and the white.


You really have a warped understanding of what conservatism means. But
that's understandable. BTW, it's not the "liberal" part of progressive
liberal that implies progress. It's the "progressive" part of the
label. Problem is, progress in the wrong direction isn't progress at
all. I tried to make that point in another post recently. In many ways
today's progressive liberals are pushing to return to big, oppressive,
centralized government ... the same type of governance that existed
before the American Revolution, Declaration of Independence, the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution.



Mr. Luddite April 4th 17 01:14 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/2017 8:09 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 7:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 5:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58







Yup. She wore the grey version last night. First time I've ever seen
anything other than black. Maybe she reads rec.boats ?




Ahh, rec.boats, where simple minds go for their daily dose of
superficiality. But what color are her shoes? And does johnny the racist
cut off the crusts of the bread he uses to make PB&J sandwiches?



Sorta the same as the left criticizing Pence because he doesn't think a
private dinner with another woman is appropriate. It's not up to them
to judge.


Sure it is. It indicates Pence is driven by weird religious beliefs or,
like Trump, he can't control himself in the presence of women but,
unlike Trump, realizes his addiction and stays away. Personally, I think
it is related to his weird fundamentalist religious bull**** beliefs.


Weird religious beliefs? Inability to control himself?
I think not.

I'd probably refrain from private dinners with other women myself
(unless I knew them well) and I don't have any weird religious beliefs
or history of lack of control. There's another practical reason for me:

Maybe Pence's wife is also Italian. :-)


Tim April 4th 17 01:34 PM

Question for Progressives
 
6:55 AMKeyser Soze

Ahh, rec.boats, where simple minds go for their daily dose of superficiality.


Well Harry, seeing you're on here and also post more in here than anyone else, maybe you should know that you have included yourself in that statement. But I know, you probably can't see nor understand that...

Keyser Soze April 4th 17 01:46 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/17 8:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 8:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 7:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 7:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 7:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 6:57 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:21:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 8:14 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:22:04 PM UTC-4, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58






Gawd she's ugly, and annoying too.


I can only handle a few minutes of her repeating the same points,
over
and over and over.

I know, that cn get old. Harry does the same thing. over..and
over...and over...



It's a progressive liberal thing. If you keep repeating the same BS
over and over and over eventually it becomes "true".




You mean, like religion? :)

Pretty much. The progressive liberal agenda *is* a religion to them.



Really? I'll have to ask some of my more progressive liberal friends. Of
course, liberal implies one favors progress, as opposed to conservative,
which has come to mean **** everyone except the rich and the white.


You really have a warped understanding of what conservatism means. But
that's understandable. BTW, it's not the "liberal" part of progressive
liberal that implies progress. It's the "progressive" part of the
label. Problem is, progress in the wrong direction isn't progress at
all. I tried to make that point in another post recently. In many ways
today's progressive liberals are pushing to return to big, oppressive,
centralized government ... the same type of governance that existed
before the American Revolution, Declaration of Independence, the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution.


..
This isn't the same country in the same circumstances as it was prior to
the American revolution. Life isn't that simple anymore,


Keyser Soze April 4th 17 01:48 PM

Question for Progressives
 
On 4/4/17 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 8:09 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/4/2017 7:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/17 5:19 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2017 7:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:

Does Rachel Maddow ever change her clothes?

It occurred to me the other day that for as long as I can
remember seeing her on MSNBC she is always wearing the same,
black, gender neutral "suit".

Is there some liberal symbolism here?

She apparently has a gray version, too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rach...1536&bih=6 58








Yup. She wore the grey version last night. First time I've ever seen
anything other than black. Maybe she reads rec.boats ?




Ahh, rec.boats, where simple minds go for their daily dose of
superficiality. But what color are her shoes? And does johnny the
racist
cut off the crusts of the bread he uses to make PB&J sandwiches?


Sorta the same as the left criticizing Pence because he doesn't think a
private dinner with another woman is appropriate. It's not up to them
to judge.


Sure it is. It indicates Pence is driven by weird religious beliefs or,
like Trump, he can't control himself in the presence of women but,
unlike Trump, realizes his addiction and stays away. Personally, I think
it is related to his weird fundamentalist religious bull**** beliefs.


Weird religious beliefs? Inability to control himself?
I think not.

I'd probably refrain from private dinners with other women myself
(unless I knew them well) and I don't have any weird religious beliefs
or history of lack of control. There's another practical reason for me:

Maybe Pence's wife is also Italian. :-)


I've been to lunches and dinners with women other than my wives my
entire adult life, all business-related, and never a thought of
hanky-panky. That includes some Italian women.

Tim April 4th 17 01:53 PM

Question for Progressives
 
7:48 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I've been to lunches and dinners with women other than my wives my
entire adult life, all business-related, and never a thought of
hanky-panky.

......

So your wives have other women? Wow!


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