wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:12:58 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:41:45 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

===

I've always been partial to HPs. I believe their engineering and
reliability are a notch or two above the others. I'd also get a
wireless mouse for it since most touchpads leave a lot to be desired.
Unfortunately you will probably be stuck with Windows 10 if you buy a
new machine. People seem to like it once they get used to the new
interface but I'm set in my ways in that regard.

Coincidentally, I've kinda had my eye on this one:

https://www.costco.com/HP-ENVY-17t-L...100317268.html

Thanks for the comeback.

That is a nice machine if you are gaming or doing video editing. It
may be a little bit of overkill for the normal user.


I had a 17" laptop. Died. But was a big pain to deal with the size while
traveling.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 02:39:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Just got an advert for Dell at $140.
http://deals.dell.com/mpp/productdet...02922624028084


That is a nice little machine if you just want the basics.

I am a Dell person. After I bought my first Dell desktop I was sold on the brand. I bought my first laptop a Dell 15" back in 2005. When I replaced that laptop in 2012 I passed it on to my daughter.

That old Dell finally died last December. I ordered a new Dell laptop and will pass on the old one to my daughter again once I get it all cleaned up, meaning deleting and transferring all its files to my new one.

The first dell ran Vista, the second one Windows 7. The new one is Windows 10 and that is taking some getting used to. Its definitely different than Windows 7 but I am getting used to the new version.

Personally I do not think you could go wrong with either HP or Dell.

On 3/29/2017 9:04 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:34:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

You can get back in forth to work in a Tesla too but you don't really
need all of that power. I guess if you want the biggest and baddest
machine on the block, go for it. You can afford it. ;-)


Lesson I learned a long time ago from a old timer
mechanical engineer (P.E.)

"When in doubt, make it stout".


Unfortunately, in the computer biz, stout is not the same as fast.
I had to give up my PC based MP3 players because once you got much
beyond a P1 166, reliability in the Florida car environment because
you couldn't keep them cool. The same was true of hard drives. Once
you got much over 10-15gig, they started getting more heat sensitive.

My interest in laptops used to be as cheap (to run) servers since they
used to run at "night light" levels of power. This last one I got came
with a 90w power brick. You need to put a towel in your lap if you
actually use it as a laptop or you will roast your nuts. The Dell
Latitude (P3/400 W/98 machine) I am running back in the shop is always
cool to the touch.
The specs say it pulls a max of 36w but it seems to cruise in the
10-15w just talking to the printer, scanner or banging an external
hard drive.



Greg, not many people use or are as interested in computers as you are.
I really am not interested in seeing how long I could use Windows 98.

On 3/30/17 5:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2017 9:04 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:34:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

You can get back in forth to work in a Tesla too but you don't really
need all of that power. I guess if you want the biggest and baddest
machine on the block, go for it. You can afford it. ;-)


Lesson I learned a long time ago from a old timer
mechanical engineer (P.E.)

"When in doubt, make it stout".


Unfortunately, in the computer biz, stout is not the same as fast.
I had to give up my PC based MP3 players because once you got much
beyond a P1 166, reliability in the Florida car environment because
you couldn't keep them cool. The same was true of hard drives. Once
you got much over 10-15gig, they started getting more heat sensitive.

My interest in laptops used to be as cheap (to run) servers since they
used to run at "night light" levels of power. This last one I got came
with a 90w power brick. You need to put a towel in your lap if you
actually use it as a laptop or you will roast your nuts. The Dell
Latitude (P3/400 W/98 machine) I am running back in the shop is always
cool to the touch.
The specs say it pulls a max of 36w but it seems to cruise in the
10-15w just talking to the printer, scanner or banging an external
hard drive.



Greg, not many people use or are as interested in computers as you are.
I really am not interested in seeing how long I could use Windows 98.



Greg apparently has lots of hours to fill during the day keeping his old
computers running, carpeting his home town with tiki bars, and building
RV trailers out of old bed frames. As soon as he picks up enough old
microwave ovens from dumpsters, he'll be able to communicate directly
with the Trump administration.

On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.

On 3/30/17 8:45 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



She wants to carry her tunes, photos and every email and SMS she
has ever recieved, on her phone.
How do these devices connect to an iphone and can they be used for
backup of files?


The ones I have seen plug into the lightning port on the bottom of the
device and have a USB port on the other end. I've not used one, but I'm
pretty sure they'll do what you want. Here's one such device:

http://tinyurl.com/mlh7r2f

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:23:39 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/30/17 5:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/29/2017 9:04 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:34:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

You can get back in forth to work in a Tesla too but you don't really
need all of that power. I guess if you want the biggest and baddest
machine on the block, go for it. You can afford it. ;-)


Lesson I learned a long time ago from a old timer
mechanical engineer (P.E.)

"When in doubt, make it stout".


Unfortunately, in the computer biz, stout is not the same as fast.
I had to give up my PC based MP3 players because once you got much
beyond a P1 166, reliability in the Florida car environment because
you couldn't keep them cool. The same was true of hard drives. Once
you got much over 10-15gig, they started getting more heat sensitive.

My interest in laptops used to be as cheap (to run) servers since they
used to run at "night light" levels of power. This last one I got came
with a 90w power brick. You need to put a towel in your lap if you
actually use it as a laptop or you will roast your nuts. The Dell
Latitude (P3/400 W/98 machine) I am running back in the shop is always
cool to the touch.
The specs say it pulls a max of 36w but it seems to cruise in the
10-15w just talking to the printer, scanner or banging an external
hard drive.



Greg, not many people use or are as interested in computers as you are.
I really am not interested in seeing how long I could use Windows 98.



Greg apparently has lots of hours to fill during the day keeping his old
computers running, carpeting his home town with tiki bars, and building
RV trailers out of old bed frames. As soon as he picks up enough old
microwave ovens from dumpsters, he'll be able to communicate directly
with the Trump administration.


It's his hobby. Do you have a hobby?

===

Harree's hobby is denigrating the skills and interests of others. It
makes him feel superior and he thrives on the insults he receives in
return. Sick puppy.

On 3/30/2017 8:51 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 8:45 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2
1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for
traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We
download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on
airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone
hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they
have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot
more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for
business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay
bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can
store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.



Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage?
Freind of
mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I
didn't see a way to add storage to her phone.


There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads.



She wants to carry her tunes, photos and every email and SMS she
has ever recieved, on her phone.
How do these devices connect to an iphone and can they be used for
backup of files?


The ones I have seen plug into the lightning port on the bottom of the
device and have a USB port on the other end. I've not used one, but I'm
pretty sure they'll do what you want. Here's one such device:

http://tinyurl.com/mlh7r2f


thanks,
Sounds like just the ticket. I'll pass it on and let you know if I get
any feedback

--
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Make America great again. Yes we can.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 02:39:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally
giving serious thought to getting
a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs?

I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996
vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much.



We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling.
Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is
looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download
books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can
read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or
Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have
public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more
convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business
use.

My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds,
cheap fuel, etc, plus all the
stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc.


I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store
stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome.

I can't stand typing on the tablets. I don't like laptop keyboards either, but they're better than
those damn tablets.