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Yo Krausee
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:47:18 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/27/17 8:07 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 04:31:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 5:35:00 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/26/17 8:58 PM, Tim wrote: 7:19 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I didn't think the photo of Trump eating was funny. Of course, I don't have a seventh grader's sense of humor. .... Sure you did. You didn't post it out of sympathy for him. Why would I have sympathy for a P.O.S. like Trump? I'm not one of your fake christians who pretend to have feelings of sympathy for despicable characters like, oh, Trump or your racist buddy, Herring. No sir Harry, you're not a fake anything. You're the 'real deal' LOL LOL! I'll bet even Harry laughed his ass off at that comeback! Why? Was it funny? To one with a sense of humor, yes. But, as we all know, your forte' is prevarication, not humor. |
Yo Krausee
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:23:44 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 3/27/17 12:25 PM, wrote: Since the cutoff for paying any taxes is $55-60k for a family of 4 and it creeps up slowly from there, it is going to take a huge bump in jobs to get these people actually paying any significant amount. They do still pay FICA but, as I said, that dos not even cover the programs it is supposed to support. I suppose someone should point out to Harry and his gang that his "single payer" plan would be a huge tax increase to a person who pays nothing now. Ask Don how much a Canadian family of 4 would pay on $60,000. I suppose I could look it up myself since Canadian taxes are pretty easy and there are online calculators. As I have stated many times, we need to reshuffle our priorities in this country. We can start by slicing the military budget by at least 50%. Then we can force the medical profession to accept customary and reasonable rates for services, and pharma to charge reasonable prices for its wares. The money that now goes to private health insurers could instead be paid into a national health care fund, with families paying into it on the basis of family income. It will never work if half the country is too poor to pay (as we decided with income tax). You also have the problem that government managed health care is less efficient than private insurers so it would be more expensive. Medicare and Medicaid run fraud rates in the 17-19% on top of that. The policy is pay and chase. Chasing seldom actually works because the scammers are long gone by the time the chasers even get the case. The short answer is this is not Sweden or even Canada. |
Yo Krausee
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:54:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Your proposal to slash the military (I assume you mean Defense budget) by "at least 50%" just isn't realistic. Thanks for playing though. The problem with any cut in spending is it means jobs and the AFGE would be marching down Pennsylvania avenue with torches. The same would be true if you actually went after the "cost" of health care or insurance companies except it would be lobbyists telling us how many jobs we would lose. |
Yo Krausee
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:09:28 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote: Your proposal to slash the military (I assume you mean Defense budget) by "at least 50%" just isn't realistic. Thanks for playing though. Oh, why is that? People working in the defense industry tend to be in the half of the population who do pay taxes and without that work they would be unemployed. Without the Pentagon, there is no market for that much technology and certainly not at that price. This stuff is "Made in America" which means it is 2 or 3 times as much as it would cost if it came from where the rest of our consumer goods are made. |
Yo Krausee
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:23:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/27/17 12:25 PM, wrote: Since the cutoff for paying any taxes is $55-60k for a family of 4 and it creeps up slowly from there, it is going to take a huge bump in jobs to get these people actually paying any significant amount. They do still pay FICA but, as I said, that dos not even cover the programs it is supposed to support. I suppose someone should point out to Harry and his gang that his "single payer" plan would be a huge tax increase to a person who pays nothing now. Ask Don how much a Canadian family of 4 would pay on $60,000. I suppose I could look it up myself since Canadian taxes are pretty easy and there are online calculators. As I have stated many times, we need to reshuffle our priorities in this country. We can start by slicing the military budget by at least 50%. Then we can force the medical profession to accept customary and reasonable rates for services, and pharma to charge reasonable prices for its wares. The money that now goes to private health insurers could instead be paid into a national health care fund, with families paying into it on the basis of family income. It will never work if half the country is too poor to pay (as we decided with income tax). You also have the problem that government managed health care is less efficient than private insurers so it would be more expensive. Medicare and Medicaid run fraud rates in the 17-19% on top of that. The policy is pay and chase. Chasing seldom actually works because the scammers are long gone by the time the chasers even get the case. The short answer is this is not Sweden or even Canada. My fishing partner is a retired LEO. Was a Medicaid fraud investigator for the state AG. They would turn over evidence of Medicare fraud when they found state Medicaid fraud. He said the Feds just ignored the fraud. |
Yo Krausee
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/26/17 6:01 PM, Tim wrote: 4:41 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Why is that funny to you, Timmy? .... You mean like trump eating- Why shouldn't it be, Harry? I didn't think the photo of Trump eating was funny. Of course, I don't have a seventh grader's sense of humor. No, yours is closer to the fourth grade. |
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