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On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. |
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On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 9:45:26 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Tell that to the Muslim's Student Organization. |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:04:41 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 9:45:26 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Tell that to the Muslim's Student Organization. No ****. |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:45:23 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Neither should political groups, |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:01:58 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 1/31/17 11:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:45:23 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Neither should political groups, There's nothing in the Constitution that precludes the mixing of politics and higher education. There is also nothing in the constitution that prevents a publicly funded college from promoting religion as long as it was not required in a law passed by the US congress. The 1st amendment is what it says, not what you think it should say. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" In fact congress could not pass a law banning a college from exercising a religious program. If I want to push that envelope to the ridiculous extreme you project, it would be a violation of the hatch act for a college to promote a political position because they are getting funding from the executive branch, via the Department of Education that goes toward their salary so they are federal employees. |
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On 1/31/17 12:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:01:58 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 11:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:45:23 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Neither should political groups, There's nothing in the Constitution that precludes the mixing of politics and higher education. There is also nothing in the constitution that prevents a publicly funded college from promoting religion as long as it was not required in a law passed by the US congress. The 1st amendment is what it says, not what you think it should say. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" In fact congress could not pass a law banning a college from exercising a religious program. If I want to push that envelope to the ridiculous extreme you project, it would be a violation of the hatch act for a college to promote a political position because they are getting funding from the executive branch, via the Department of Education that goes toward their salary so they are federal employees. Allowing "official" religious organizations is establishing religion. Not interfering with an individual's right to practice a religion is not prohibiting the free exercise thereof. It's the same as school prayer. No formal group prayers, no prayers led by teachers, for example, but if a kid wants to pray, no one is to stop him. We're talking about public schools here. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:01:58 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 11:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:45:23 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Neither should political groups, There's nothing in the Constitution that precludes the mixing of politics and higher education. There is also nothing in the constitution that prevents a publicly funded college from promoting religion as long as it was not required in a law passed by the US congress. The 1st amendment is what it says, not what you think it should say. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" In fact congress could not pass a law banning a college from exercising a religious program. If I want to push that envelope to the ridiculous extreme you project, it would be a violation of the hatch act for a college to promote a political position because they are getting funding from the executive branch, via the Department of Education that goes toward their salary so they are federal employees. Allowing "official" religious organizations is establishing religion. Not interfering with an individual's right to practice a religion is not prohibiting the free exercise thereof. It's the same as school prayer. No formal group prayers, no prayers led by teachers, for example, but if a kid wants to pray, no one is to stop him. We're talking about public schools here. You are getting really dumb. |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:35:14 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:01:58 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 11:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:45:23 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Neither should political groups, There's nothing in the Constitution that precludes the mixing of politics and higher education. There is also nothing in the constitution that prevents a publicly funded college from promoting religion as long as it was not required in a law passed by the US congress. The 1st amendment is what it says, not what you think it should say. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" In fact congress could not pass a law banning a college from exercising a religious program. If I want to push that envelope to the ridiculous extreme you project, it would be a violation of the hatch act for a college to promote a political position because they are getting funding from the executive branch, via the Department of Education that goes toward their salary so they are federal employees. Allowing "official" religious organizations is establishing religion. Not interfering with an individual's right to practice a religion is not prohibiting the free exercise thereof. It's the same as school prayer. No formal group prayers, no prayers led by teachers, for example, but if a kid wants to pray, no one is to stop him. We're talking about public schools here. You are getting really dumb. Yup. |
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:45:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 12:41 PM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:01:58 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 11:50 AM, wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:45:23 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/31/17 7:58 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/12952/...ngconservative or: http://tinyurl.com/jbgaf3d "Official" religious groups should have no place on a publicly funded university. Neither should political groups, There's nothing in the Constitution that precludes the mixing of politics and higher education. There is also nothing in the constitution that prevents a publicly funded college from promoting religion as long as it was not required in a law passed by the US congress. The 1st amendment is what it says, not what you think it should say. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" In fact congress could not pass a law banning a college from exercising a religious program. If I want to push that envelope to the ridiculous extreme you project, it would be a violation of the hatch act for a college to promote a political position because they are getting funding from the executive branch, via the Department of Education that goes toward their salary so they are federal employees. Allowing "official" religious organizations is establishing religion. Not interfering with an individual's right to practice a religion is not prohibiting the free exercise thereof. It's the same as school prayer. No formal group prayers, no prayers led by teachers, for example, but if a kid wants to pray, no one is to stop him. We're talking about public schools here. Again, what is an 'official' religious student organization. Is it 'official' only because California used the word? This is twice you've used it, but apparently you do so only because the state of California did. Your argument is meaningless. No one has suggested any of the students are being forced to do anything religious. |
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