The Monday Massacre
 

Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/17 2:34 AM, wrote:
Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.


I'm sure Sally Yates knew exactly what Trump would do. He's the Pavlov's
Doggie POTUS.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/2017 6:38 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 2:34 AM, wrote:
Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.


I'm sure Sally Yates knew exactly what Trump would do. He's the Pavlov's
Doggie POTUS.


We have much bigger problems than that.

Woke up this morning and learned that Trump (via his advisor/aid Steve
Miller) didn't have the courtesy of even informing his cabinet members
or pertinent nominees including the Secretary of Defense , Speaker of
the House Paul Ryan, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other
government department heads who should have been advised of his ban on
immigration from certain countries.

Worse, it is being reported that staff members of some departments
necessary to initiate the ban were required to sign non-disclosure
statements prohibiting them from discussing or even telling the
department head for whom they worked what they were being tasked to do.

I don't like this. I am afraid that the base of Trump's support, once
they wake up and realize the dictatorial nature of his governing style,
are going to revolt big time. Right now they are reveling in his
kick-ass, take no prisoners style, saying he's just doing what he said
he would do. That's fine. It's the methods in which he is doing it
that is absolutely un-American and wrong.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/17 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2017 6:38 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 2:34 AM, wrote:
Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.


I'm sure Sally Yates knew exactly what Trump would do. He's the Pavlov's
Doggie POTUS.


We have much bigger problems than that.

Woke up this morning and learned that Trump (via his advisor/aid Steve
Miller) didn't have the courtesy of even informing his cabinet members
or pertinent nominees including the Secretary of Defense , Speaker of
the House Paul Ryan, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other
government department heads who should have been advised of his ban on
immigration from certain countries.

Worse, it is being reported that staff members of some departments
necessary to initiate the ban were required to sign non-disclosure
statements prohibiting them from discussing or even telling the
department head for whom they worked what they were being tasked to do.

I don't like this. I am afraid that the base of Trump's support, once
they wake up and realize the dictatorial nature of his governing style,
are going to revolt big time. Right now they are reveling in his
kick-ass, take no prisoners style, saying he's just doing what he said
he would do. That's fine. It's the methods in which he is doing it
that is absolutely un-American and wrong.

I don't believe the "base of Trump's support" gives a **** about
anything except their admiration and joy for his hate-mongering,
political uncorrectness and dictatorial style.

My guess is that the courts will uphold the unconstitutionality of
Trump's Muslim ban, and a Muslim ban it is. It clearly violates the
First and Fourteenth Amendments. OF course, *then* Trump will claim he
is not subject to the jurisdiction of the courts, if he hasn't done that
already.

Trump really is a fascist in his heart. Steve Bannon, a neo-Nazi, will
encourage and abet that, and most of Trump's intended cabinet are
nothing more than incompetent suck-ups. Trump is leading us into really
dangerous territory.

George W. Bush must be taking some special secret delight in this...with
Trump in the White House, America will soon have someone who will be
considered "the worst president in anyone's memory."

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/2017 7:29 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 7:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2017 6:38 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 2:34 AM, wrote:
Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.


I'm sure Sally Yates knew exactly what Trump would do. He's the Pavlov's
Doggie POTUS.


We have much bigger problems than that.

Woke up this morning and learned that Trump (via his advisor/aid Steve
Miller) didn't have the courtesy of even informing his cabinet members
or pertinent nominees including the Secretary of Defense , Speaker of
the House Paul Ryan, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other
government department heads who should have been advised of his ban on
immigration from certain countries.

Worse, it is being reported that staff members of some departments
necessary to initiate the ban were required to sign non-disclosure
statements prohibiting them from discussing or even telling the
department head for whom they worked what they were being tasked to do.

I don't like this. I am afraid that the base of Trump's support, once
they wake up and realize the dictatorial nature of his governing style,
are going to revolt big time. Right now they are reveling in his
kick-ass, take no prisoners style, saying he's just doing what he said
he would do. That's fine. It's the methods in which he is doing it
that is absolutely un-American and wrong.

I don't believe the "base of Trump's support" gives a **** about
anything except their admiration and joy for his hate-mongering,
political uncorrectness and dictatorial style.

My guess is that the courts will uphold the unconstitutionality of
Trump's Muslim ban, and a Muslim ban it is. It clearly violates the
First and Fourteenth Amendments. OF course, *then* Trump will claim he
is not subject to the jurisdiction of the courts, if he hasn't done that
already.

Trump really is a fascist in his heart. Steve Bannon, a neo-Nazi, will
encourage and abet that, and most of Trump's intended cabinet are
nothing more than incompetent suck-ups. Trump is leading us into really
dangerous territory.

George W. Bush must be taking some special secret delight in this...with
Trump in the White House, America will soon have someone who will be
considered "the worst president in anyone's memory."



I won't go as far as calling Trump a fascist. At least not yet. I
think he is operating as if the federal government is a privately owned
business where the CEO has ultimate say and authority in establishing
rules and policies (within certain governing laws that pertain to
business). Perhaps if Trump Industries was a publicly held company with
requirements to notify shareholders of significant changes to policy he
would have a better understanding of what being POTUS is all about.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:13:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/31/2017 6:38 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 2:34 AM, wrote:
Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.


I'm sure Sally Yates knew exactly what Trump would do. He's the Pavlov's
Doggie POTUS.


We have much bigger problems than that.

Woke up this morning and learned that Trump (via his advisor/aid Steve
Miller) didn't have the courtesy of even informing his cabinet members
or pertinent nominees including the Secretary of Defense , Speaker of
the House Paul Ryan, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other
government department heads who should have been advised of his ban on
immigration from certain countries.

Worse, it is being reported that staff members of some departments
necessary to initiate the ban were required to sign non-disclosure
statements prohibiting them from discussing or even telling the
department head for whom they worked what they were being tasked to do.

I don't like this. I am afraid that the base of Trump's support, once
they wake up and realize the dictatorial nature of his governing style,
are going to revolt big time. Right now they are reveling in his
kick-ass, take no prisoners style, saying he's just doing what he said
he would do. That's fine. It's the methods in which he is doing it
that is absolutely un-American and wrong.

Did this information come from the Washington Post or Joe Scarborough? I don't believe much of what
is written in the Washington Post, which has one agenda - to be anti-Trump regardless. And, it
wouldn't surprise me if Joe got his 'lead' from the Washington Post.

"Defense Secretary James Mattis and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly fumed privately to
associates over the weekend because they had been caught unaware by a travel ban that was drafted
and set into action largely in secret by the White House, according to three people who have spoken
with them."

What 'three people who have spoken to them'?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.3e3550669bf6

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/2017 8:26 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:13:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/31/2017 6:38 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 2:34 AM, wrote:
Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.


I'm sure Sally Yates knew exactly what Trump would do. He's the Pavlov's
Doggie POTUS.


We have much bigger problems than that.

Woke up this morning and learned that Trump (via his advisor/aid Steve
Miller) didn't have the courtesy of even informing his cabinet members
or pertinent nominees including the Secretary of Defense , Speaker of
the House Paul Ryan, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other
government department heads who should have been advised of his ban on
immigration from certain countries.

Worse, it is being reported that staff members of some departments
necessary to initiate the ban were required to sign non-disclosure
statements prohibiting them from discussing or even telling the
department head for whom they worked what they were being tasked to do.

I don't like this. I am afraid that the base of Trump's support, once
they wake up and realize the dictatorial nature of his governing style,
are going to revolt big time. Right now they are reveling in his
kick-ass, take no prisoners style, saying he's just doing what he said
he would do. That's fine. It's the methods in which he is doing it
that is absolutely un-American and wrong.

Did this information come from the Washington Post or Joe Scarborough? I don't believe much of what
is written in the Washington Post, which has one agenda - to be anti-Trump regardless. And, it
wouldn't surprise me if Joe got his 'lead' from the Washington Post.

"Defense Secretary James Mattis and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly fumed privately to
associates over the weekend because they had been caught unaware by a travel ban that was drafted
and set into action largely in secret by the White House, according to three people who have spoken
with them."

What 'three people who have spoken to them'?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.3e3550669bf6



I heard the story on "Morning Joe" ... Joe Scarborough. So far, nobody
in the Trump administration (including the Donald) have disputed it's
accuracy. The idea of him unilaterally directing these policies,
relying only on people like Steve Miller and that weirdo, Steve Bannon
and not involving people like his Secretary of Defense or Secretary of
Homeland Security is scary IMO.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:49:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/31/2017 8:26 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:13:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/31/2017 6:38 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 2:34 AM, wrote:
Yates is out, Boente is the acting Bork.


I'm sure Sally Yates knew exactly what Trump would do. He's the Pavlov's
Doggie POTUS.


We have much bigger problems than that.

Woke up this morning and learned that Trump (via his advisor/aid Steve
Miller) didn't have the courtesy of even informing his cabinet members
or pertinent nominees including the Secretary of Defense , Speaker of
the House Paul Ryan, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other
government department heads who should have been advised of his ban on
immigration from certain countries.

Worse, it is being reported that staff members of some departments
necessary to initiate the ban were required to sign non-disclosure
statements prohibiting them from discussing or even telling the
department head for whom they worked what they were being tasked to do.

I don't like this. I am afraid that the base of Trump's support, once
they wake up and realize the dictatorial nature of his governing style,
are going to revolt big time. Right now they are reveling in his
kick-ass, take no prisoners style, saying he's just doing what he said
he would do. That's fine. It's the methods in which he is doing it
that is absolutely un-American and wrong.

Did this information come from the Washington Post or Joe Scarborough? I don't believe much of what
is written in the Washington Post, which has one agenda - to be anti-Trump regardless. And, it
wouldn't surprise me if Joe got his 'lead' from the Washington Post.

"Defense Secretary James Mattis and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly fumed privately to
associates over the weekend because they had been caught unaware by a travel ban that was drafted
and set into action largely in secret by the White House, according to three people who have spoken
with them."

What 'three people who have spoken to them'?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.3e3550669bf6



I heard the story on "Morning Joe" ... Joe Scarborough. So far, nobody
in the Trump administration (including the Donald) have disputed it's
accuracy. The idea of him unilaterally directing these policies,
relying only on people like Steve Miller and that weirdo, Steve Bannon
and not involving people like his Secretary of Defense or Secretary of
Homeland Security is scary IMO.

Don't know when you watched Morning Joe, but I wouldn't have expected much action from anyone prior
to the time you wrote the above post (08:49:38).

If Scaborough got the story from the Washington Post, which I think likely, then I could understand
there being no dispute of its accuracy. If the administratiion disputed every piece of bull**** in
the Washington Post, they'd be doing nothing else but.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business. But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media, especially the Washington Post.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business. But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media, especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:40:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business. But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media, especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.

More lies.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/17 6:01 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:40:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business. But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media, especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.

More lies.


Check it out, ****head.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

Trump's biggest problem may be that he does not have a clue how the
government actually works and he is not going to change US civil
service much. That is the immovable object in DC. Technically they all
work for him but he can't make them do anything they don't want to do
and he can't fire them as long as they show up every day.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/2017 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business. But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media, especially the Washington Post.



Not even "big business". Trump's style is more like the owner of a
privately held business ... which is where he came from. A publicly
held and traded "big business" CEO has legal obligations that are more
in line with that of being POTUS. Doesn't mean he can't learn the ropes
but he needs to grow out of his past.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/2017 5:40 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like
the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these
'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible
with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business.
But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media,
especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.


I think that's a bit overblown Harry. He hasn't grown into the job yet.
I am willing to bet that Monday's screw-ups are lessons he and his staff
will not forget and will act differently in the future.

Now it's time to see how committed *your* party is to the best interests
of the country. Are they going to allow the current President to have a
cabinet? Are they going to stonewall his choice for the Supreme Court?
Or are they going to ignore what's in the best interests of the country
and focus on what's in *their* best interests?

The Monday Massacre
 

On 1/31/2017 9:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

Trump's biggest problem may be that he does not have a clue how the
government actually works and he is not going to change US civil
service much. That is the immovable object in DC. Technically they all
work for him but he can't make them do anything they don't want to do
and he can't fire them as long as they show up every day.



I was blown away when I learned that well over 100,000 people are civil
servants working for the Justice Department. What do all those people do?

The Monday Massacre
 

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:08:45 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/31/17 6:01 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:40:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business. But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media, especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.

More lies.


Check it out, ****head.

I did.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 2/1/17 7:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2017 5:40 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like
the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these
'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible
with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business.
But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media,
especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.


I think that's a bit overblown Harry. He hasn't grown into the job yet.
I am willing to bet that Monday's screw-ups are lessons he and his staff
will not forget and will act differently in the future.

Now it's time to see how committed *your* party is to the best interests
of the country. Are they going to allow the current President to have a
cabinet? Are they going to stonewall his choice for the Supreme Court?
Or are they going to ignore what's in the best interests of the country
and focus on what's in *their* best interests?


The interests of the country will be best served by throwing as many
roadblocks as possible in front of Trump and his neo-Nazi principal
advisor. I agree with McConnell - the Supreme Court vacancy should be
filled by the *next* person elected POTUS.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 6:16:08 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2017 5:40 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like
the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these
'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible
with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business.
But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media,
especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.


I think that's a bit overblown Harry.

Isn't that true with each of his posts?

The Monday Massacre
 

On 2/1/2017 8:12 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/1/17 7:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2017 5:40 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like
the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these
'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible
with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business.
But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media,
especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.


I think that's a bit overblown Harry. He hasn't grown into the job yet.
I am willing to bet that Monday's screw-ups are lessons he and his staff
will not forget and will act differently in the future.

Now it's time to see how committed *your* party is to the best interests
of the country. Are they going to allow the current President to have a
cabinet? Are they going to stonewall his choice for the Supreme Court?
Or are they going to ignore what's in the best interests of the country
and focus on what's in *their* best interests?


The interests of the country will be best served by throwing as many
roadblocks as possible in front of Trump and his neo-Nazi principal
advisor. I agree with McConnell - the Supreme Court vacancy should be
filled by the *next* person elected POTUS.

Nice but aren't you a bit late and a dollar short? Trump *is* the
*next* person elected POTUS he referred to when he made that statement.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 2/1/2017 8:59 AM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 1/31/2017 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these 'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing. If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business. But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media, especially the Washington Post.



Not even "big business". Trump's style is more like the owner of a
privately held business ... which is where he came from. A publicly
held and traded "big business" CEO has legal obligations that are more
in line with that of being POTUS. Doesn't mean he can't learn the ropes
but he needs to grow out of his past.


Is it OK if he is not politically correct and thinks out of the box?
By "ropes", you mean
same old ****, correct. Do we really want to
be strangled by good old boy ropes?
We as a country need to grow out of our recent past and teach
congress who they really work for.


I am not saying he has to change his objectives. I am saying that in
order to achieve them he is going to have to adapt somewhat to how
government works (or doesn't). Being CEO of the Federal Government
isn't the same as being CEO of Trump Industries.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 2/1/17 11:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/1/2017 8:12 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/1/17 7:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2017 5:40 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like
the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am
starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these
'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible
with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may
work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to
success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing.
If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big business.
But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media,
especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum
resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport
because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass, and he
is going to get us killed.


I think that's a bit overblown Harry. He hasn't grown into the job yet.
I am willing to bet that Monday's screw-ups are lessons he and his staff
will not forget and will act differently in the future.

Now it's time to see how committed *your* party is to the best interests
of the country. Are they going to allow the current President to have a
cabinet? Are they going to stonewall his choice for the Supreme Court?
Or are they going to ignore what's in the best interests of the country
and focus on what's in *their* best interests?


The interests of the country will be best served by throwing as many
roadblocks as possible in front of Trump and his neo-Nazi principal
advisor. I agree with McConnell - the Supreme Court vacancy should be
filled by the *next* person elected POTUS.

Nice but aren't you a bit late and a dollar short? Trump *is* the
*next* person elected POTUS he referred to when he made that statement.

I'm referring to *the next* person. The one after trumpikins. :)

The Monday Massacre
 

"gets worse. "

Harry, for you and your sorry band of little snowflakes, I'm sure it does.

You need a hot chocolate re-fill?

The Monday Massacre
 

On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 07:19:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Trump's biggest problem may be that he does not have a clue how the
government actually works and he is not going to change US civil
service much. That is the immovable object in DC. Technically they all
work for him but he can't make them do anything they don't want to do
and he can't fire them as long as they show up every day.



I was blown away when I learned that well over 100,000 people are civil
servants working for the Justice Department. What do all those people do?

If it is like most government agencies 20% are dedicated and work very
hard, 60% meet minimum requirements and the remaining 20% just show
up every day, not doing much of anything.
Justice is still a fairly small agency. You should walk around HHS or
USDA and look at that operation. When I was in DC we were in, what IBM
called at the time, the "GEM region". (Government, Education and
Medical). I spent 14 years in the belly of that fat beast. It made me
very skeptical of the government being the best solution for anything.

The Monday Massacre
 

On 2/1/2017 11:26 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/1/17 11:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/1/2017 8:12 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/1/17 7:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/31/2017 5:40 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/31/17 5:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:05:14 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:21:57 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

If media reports are accurate, nobody in his sparse cabinet nor
any
members of Congressional leadership were notified or even asked
for
their input. If that's not true, then I would gladly retract my
complaint about how this was done. I still say he's acting like
the CEO
of a privately held company rather than the POTUS. I am
starting to
wonder if he knows the difference.

If media reports were accurate there wouldn't have been all these
'protests' about his immigration
policy. The media have been hyping the public as much as possible
with bull**** stories.

===

The issue that Luddite is pointing out relates to his management and
leadership style. As he pointed out, a management style that may
work
in a small, privately owned business will probably not lead to
success
in a large, sprawling government organization where everything is
constantly under the microscope and subject to second guessing.
If he
alienates congressional Republicans by not keeping them in the loop,
it will become very difficult for Trump to get things done.

I understand that his management style is more suited to big
business.
But I still feel that about
90% of the hysteria out there is purposely induced by the media,
especially the Washington Post.


No one should be upset with Trump because his idiotic dictum
resulted in
a five year old boy being handcuffed for hours at Dulles airport
because
he posed a "security risk."

The boy was reported to be a U.S. citizen with an Iranian mother.

This country's president is an ignorant hate-filled flaming ass,
and he
is going to get us killed.


I think that's a bit overblown Harry. He hasn't grown into the job
yet.
I am willing to bet that Monday's screw-ups are lessons he and his
staff
will not forget and will act differently in the future.

Now it's time to see how committed *your* party is to the best
interests
of the country. Are they going to allow the current President to
have a
cabinet? Are they going to stonewall his choice for the Supreme Court?
Or are they going to ignore what's in the best interests of the country
and focus on what's in *their* best interests?


The interests of the country will be best served by throwing as many
roadblocks as possible in front of Trump and his neo-Nazi principal
advisor. I agree with McConnell - the Supreme Court vacancy should be
filled by the *next* person elected POTUS.

Nice but aren't you a bit late and a dollar short? Trump *is* the
*next* person elected POTUS he referred to when he made that statement.

I'm referring to *the next* person. The one after trumpikins. :)


It's funny that some of the Dems including Chuck Schumer have suggested
that the country can get along just fine with only eight Justices. They
obviously are thinking the same thing.

To be completely honest, the person who takes the #9 spot was a very
important factor to me. I think the country is much better off with a
court that has a slightly conservative complexion. It doesn't hurt
anyone except possibly hard core *progressive* liberals who want the
court to change it's complexion in accordance with the political wind.
I think that's as dangerous as having it go too far to the right.

The Monday Massacre
 

On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:54:59 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


It's funny that some of the Dems including Chuck Schumer have suggested
that the country can get along just fine with only eight Justices. They
obviously are thinking the same thing.

To be completely honest, the person who takes the #9 spot was a very
important factor to me. I think the country is much better off with a
court that has a slightly conservative complexion. It doesn't hurt
anyone except possibly hard core *progressive* liberals who want the
court to change it's complexion in accordance with the political wind.
I think that's as dangerous as having it go too far to the right.

The thing that is amazing is how much the same people have changed on
the 8 member court. 6 months ago they said it was a crisis.
I do agree we need a conservative court that does not think the
constitution was written on an etch a sketch and want to shake it
every time the trends change

The Monday Massacre
 

Tim wrote:
"gets worse."

Harry, for you and your sorry band of little snowflakes, I'm sure it does.

You need a hot chocolate re-fill?

His basement isn't a safe place anymore?