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Tim January 25th 17 07:22 PM

Stock markets up
 
Way up. Looks better in the last 5 days than it has in the lad 5 years, or longer...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/us-markets.html

From CNBC no doubt

[email protected] January 25th 17 09:40 PM

Stock markets up
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:22:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Way up. Looks better in the last 5 days than it has in the lad 5 years, or longer...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/us-markets.html

From CNBC no doubt


===

It has been said that a rising tide floats all boats, and this tide
has been rising pretty nicely. It's important, however, to remember
where the exits are when the market starts getting overheated.

Tim January 25th 17 09:48 PM

Stock markets up
 
3:40
On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:22:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Way up. Looks better in the last 5 days than it has in the lad 5 years, or longer...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/us-markets.html

From CNBC no doubt


===

It has been said that a rising tide floats all boats, and this tide
has been rising pretty nicely. It's important, however, to remember
where the exits are when the market starts getting overheated.
.....

Oh I agree! Always be a bit leery, but this is a good sign of optimism and opportunity. I hope it rides well.

[email protected] January 26th 17 07:00 AM

Stock markets up
 
On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:40:19 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:22:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Way up. Looks better in the last 5 days than it has in the lad 5 years, or longer...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/us-markets.html

From CNBC no doubt


===

It has been said that a rising tide floats all boats, and this tide
has been rising pretty nicely. It's important, however, to remember
where the exits are when the market starts getting overheated.


I am a little sorry I took the triple on my drywall company(EXP), It
is up 7 more bucks since a month ago when it traded.
My IBM is looking good and Buffett says it still has upside potential.
T Boone's nat gas truck company (CLNE) has tanked. I may use it to
wash something else if I take something else off the table.
I am still waiting to see if this Trump thing is real.

Mr. Luddite January 26th 17 01:52 PM

Stock markets up
 
On 1/26/2017 8:23 AM, justan wrote:
Wrote in message:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:40:19 -0500,

wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:22:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Way up. Looks better in the last 5 days than it has in the lad 5 years, or longer...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/us-markets.html

From CNBC no doubt

===

It has been said that a rising tide floats all boats, and this tide
has been rising pretty nicely. It's important, however, to remember
where the exits are when the market starts getting overheated.


I am a little sorry I took the triple on my drywall company(EXP), It
is up 7 more bucks since a month ago when it traded.
My IBM is looking good and Buffett says it still has upside potential.
T Boone's nat gas truck company (CLNE) has tanked. I may use it to
wash something else if I take something else off the table.
I am still waiting to see if this Trump thing is real.


Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.


Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?

[email protected] January 26th 17 03:59 PM

Stock markets up
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:00:34 -0500, wrote:

I am still waiting to see if this Trump thing is real.


===

Like all big market rallies, it's real until it isn't. When your
friends and neighbors start talking about their profits, that's a sure
sign the market is over heated. Another sign is magazine articles and
newspaper headlines.

[email protected] January 26th 17 04:05 PM

Stock markets up
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:52:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.


Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?


===

Yes, it was a huge problem in high humidity areas like Florida. The
Chinese drywall had a high sullphur content which released sulphuric
acid vapor under the right conditions. That was not only a health
hazzard but also corroded copper wiring and pipes. The only
remediation was to strip out all of the drywall and rebuild the
interior, a very expensive proposition as you can imagine.

Tim January 26th 17 04:10 PM

Stock markets up
 
10:06
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:52:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.


Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?


===

Yes, it was a huge problem in high humidity areas like Florida. The
Chinese drywall had a high sullphur content which released sulphuric
acid vapor under the right conditions. That was not only a health
hazzard but also corroded copper wiring and pipes. The only
remediation was to strip out all of the drywall and rebuild the
interior, a very expensive proposition as you can imagine.
......
I believe I read that some of it contained Formaldehyde as well...

[email protected] January 26th 17 04:42 PM

Stock markets up
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:52:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/26/2017 8:23 AM, justan wrote:
Wrote in message:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:40:19 -0500,

wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:22:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Way up. Looks better in the last 5 days than it has in the lad 5 years, or longer...

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/us-markets.html

From CNBC no doubt

===

It has been said that a rising tide floats all boats, and this tide
has been rising pretty nicely. It's important, however, to remember
where the exits are when the market starts getting overheated.

I am a little sorry I took the triple on my drywall company(EXP), It
is up 7 more bucks since a month ago when it traded.
My IBM is looking good and Buffett says it still has upside potential.
T Boone's nat gas truck company (CLNE) has tanked. I may use it to
wash something else if I take something else off the table.
I am still waiting to see if this Trump thing is real.


Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.


Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?


Yup and Florida was ground zero for the problem. Fortunately the
company my wife built for owned Eagle, so they dodged that bullet.
I did do some drywall surveys if anyone is interested about what
chinese drywall was all about.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Chinese%20Drywall/

[email protected] January 26th 17 05:56 PM

Stock markets up
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:05:57 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:52:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.


Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?


===

Yes, it was a huge problem in high humidity areas like Florida. The
Chinese drywall had a high sullphur content which released sulphuric
acid vapor under the right conditions. That was not only a health
hazzard but also corroded copper wiring and pipes. The only
remediation was to strip out all of the drywall and rebuild the
interior, a very expensive proposition as you can imagine.


I had a friend who had the process down to about $10 a sq/ft and he
did a bunch of them.

[email protected] January 26th 17 05:57 PM

Stock markets up
 
Were the cops supposed to just say "Oh you don't want to be arrested?
OK then Off you go".On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:10:23 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

10:06
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:52:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.


Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?


===

Yes, it was a huge problem in high humidity areas like Florida. The
Chinese drywall had a high sullphur content which released sulphuric
acid vapor under the right conditions. That was not only a health
hazzard but also corroded copper wiring and pipes. The only
remediation was to strip out all of the drywall and rebuild the
interior, a very expensive proposition as you can imagine.
.....
I believe I read that some of it contained Formaldehyde as well...


That is mostly from particle board.

Tim January 26th 17 07:05 PM

Stock markets up
 
11:58
Were the cops supposed to just say "Oh you don't want to be arrested?
OK then Off you go".On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:10:23 -0800 (PST), Tim
- show quoted text -
That is mostly from particle board.
....

Ok, sulfuric acid and formaldehyde . Great construction material combination

[email protected] January 27th 17 12:34 AM

Stock markets up
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:05:37 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


That is mostly from particle board.
...

Ok, sulfuric acid and formaldehyde . Great construction material combination


Particle board is crap, even if they bake the formaldehyde out.

Alex[_10_] January 27th 17 12:57 AM

Stock markets up
 
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:05:57 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:52:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.

Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?

===

Yes, it was a huge problem in high humidity areas like Florida. The
Chinese drywall had a high sullphur content which released sulphuric
acid vapor under the right conditions. That was not only a health
hazzard but also corroded copper wiring and pipes. The only
remediation was to strip out all of the drywall and rebuild the
interior, a very expensive proposition as you can imagine.

I had a friend who had the process down to about $10 a sq/ft and he
did a bunch of them.


Probably just to R&R the drywall. The copper plumbing, wiring, AC
components, etc. would cost far more than that.

[email protected] January 27th 17 04:18 AM

Stock markets up
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:57:05 -0500, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:05:57 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:52:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Drywall shortages are slowing housing construction. At least in my
neck of the woods.

Wasn't there some kind of health risk problem that arose a few years
back when construction companies started using sheetrock manufactured
and imported from China?
===

Yes, it was a huge problem in high humidity areas like Florida. The
Chinese drywall had a high sullphur content which released sulphuric
acid vapor under the right conditions. That was not only a health
hazzard but also corroded copper wiring and pipes. The only
remediation was to strip out all of the drywall and rebuild the
interior, a very expensive proposition as you can imagine.

I had a friend who had the process down to about $10 a sq/ft and he
did a bunch of them.


Probably just to R&R the drywall. The copper plumbing, wiring, AC
components, etc. would cost far more than that.


If you look at the link from my web page you see the wire itself is
going to be OK as long as you cut off the bad part and strip it again.
In real life you can just scrape off the sulphated part and go but,
technically, some material was removed. The devices should be replaced
but they really were not compromised that much.
Plumbing (pipe) was unaffected because it is virtually all plastic
here. He just replaced the faucets and if they were name brand, they
have a lifetime "finish" guarantee so it is just labor. If you had a
"good" air handler it will have some degradation but if it is aluminum
coil, no problem at all. He was throwing cabinets in the kitchen and
granite counter tops but they were cheap in 2009-10 when this was
going on. The dry walling itself was pretty cheap.
They also sprayed the block with some kind of chemical that
neutralized the S2O


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