Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 6:31 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


The Russians aren't our primary enemy or threat. The liberal news media
in the USA is.

Well, some did participate in spreading the GOP lie about HRC being the
devil incarnate. That allowed the mob to elect Trump.
Despite being beaten by 3 million votes.
But this is just the beginning of your woes.
Your chickens come have home to roost. Get used to the cackling.
You can't silence them. Nor can you silence Trump's big mouth.
He's your President.



3 million votes. 3 NY Burroughs. Trump took 85% of the country
geographically. Maybe go back to only landowners can vote.


You're some piece of right-wing work. There's no doubt you've never read
the Constitution or the 14th Amendment. Of course, your
president-election, Pig Vomit Trump, hasn't read the Constitution, either.


Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the
popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over
country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what
lead up to the wording.


I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners.


Sounds like you are confused with the uncivil war. Even England had slaves
in 1775.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the
popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over
country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what
lead up to the wording.


I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners.

That is revisionist bull****
The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that
broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan
seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern
slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC.
Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own
any slaves.

wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the
popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over
country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what
lead up to the wording.


I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners.

That is revisionist bull****
The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that
broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan
seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern
slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC.
Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own
any slaves.


Slavery was almost done in the US. Was not financially viable. And then
the Cotton Gin was invented. Made slavery very profitable. If a
mechanical Cotton picker had been invented, then slavery would have died a
natural death, and no Civil War.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:22:28 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners.

That is revisionist bull****
The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that
broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan
seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern
slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC.
Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own
any slaves.


Slavery was almost done in the US. Was not financially viable. And then
the Cotton Gin was invented. Made slavery very profitable. If a
mechanical Cotton picker had been invented, then slavery would have died a
natural death, and no Civil War.

Guys like Harry ignore the fact that the cotton industry thrived after
the civil war and the economics didn't really change that much, nor
did the overall cost of labor nor the actual living conditions of the
black field workers. They were "free" but they also became responsible
for their living expenses that their wages barely covered. The main
difference is they had the opportunity to move north and be exploited
by northern racists in slave wage sweatshops.

wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:22:28 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners.

That is revisionist bull****
The interesting thing about that is there was never an election that
broke down on north/south lines until 1860 so the founder's plan
seemed to work fairly well until then, It also shows those "southern
slave owners" did not get much political power from the EC.
Then you have the simple fact, the majority of southerners did not own
any slaves.


Slavery was almost done in the US. Was not financially viable. And then
the Cotton Gin was invented. Made slavery very profitable. If a
mechanical Cotton picker had been invented, then slavery would have died a
natural death, and no Civil War.

Guys like Harry ignore the fact that the cotton industry thrived after
the civil war and the economics didn't really change that much, nor
did the overall cost of labor nor the actual living conditions of the
black field workers. They were "free" but they also became responsible
for their living expenses that their wages barely covered. The main
difference is they had the opportunity to move north and be exploited
by northern racists in slave wage sweatshops.


There are suppositions that the Underground Railroad was partly financed by
northern industrialists, to get cheap labor.

On 1/12/17 12:09 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the
popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over
country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what
lead up to the wording.


I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners.

That is revisionist bull****

Sorry, but I'm not willing to accept the opinions and ruminations of a
totally uncredentialed, self-described "historian" who thinks slavery
should have continued beyond the Civil War.

On 1/11/17 4:22 PM, Tim wrote:
2:53 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat.

http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj

If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless
serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those,
but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to
the fire on these issues.
....
Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems...


No, Tim, it is the lower income classes who are "in" for endless
problems, because Trump and the Repugnants will **** them royally over
and over in order to line the pockets of the wealthy.

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 5:37:40 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/11/17 4:22 PM, Tim wrote:
2:53 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat.

http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj

If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless
serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those,
but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to
the fire on these issues.
....
Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems...


No, Tim, it is the lower income classes who are "in" for endless
problems, because Trump and the ans will **** them royally over
and over in order to line the pockets of the wealthy.

Harry, the 'lower income classes' have had 'endless problems' for years.
We get stuck fighting the wars and paying the bills while annually, more strife and debt gets piled on our shoulders. Maybe haven't noticed but over the centuries, that's how it seems to work. You can always count on the middle/little guy taking the porking. Always.

The last guy from *your* party wasn't a champion for the "lower income classes" causes either. So, whats new...

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 06:17:31 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/17 12:09 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:35 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Right wing fiscally. Leftist on social. People saying Hillary won the
popular vote. BFD! Th founders of the country made the small fly over
country relevant! Maybe you should have studied the Constitution and what
lead up to the wording.


I have. It was a way to placate the South's slaveowners.

That is revisionist bull****

Sorry, but I'm not willing to accept the opinions and ruminations of a
totally uncredentialed, self-described "historian" who thinks slavery
should have continued beyond the Civil War.

Are you just acting stupid or do you have reading comprehension
problems?
My contention is that slavery would have fallen from it's own weight
if the north and the europeans you hold in such high regard had simply
refused to buy slave produced goods. It was a financially driven
institution and if the finances stopped making sense, the institution
would have failed. After the war the actual conditions for the freed
slaves did not change much. Certainly they had the option to quit
their job after 1865 but they did not have much opportunity to do
anything else. Most stayed on as share croppers or slave wage
employees.
Living conditions, job safety and actual take home wages were not any
better in the coal mines or sweat shops that were staffed by "free
men" up north and that continued well into the 20th century (some say
even now).

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 06:37:39 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/11/17 4:22 PM, Tim wrote:
2:53 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I'll have to dig up a used Mao hat.

http://tinyurl.com/hxpxozj

If Trump doesn't change his tune on those aspects, he is in for endless
serious problems. Of course, he was already in line for grief for those,
but there are elected members of his party who may hold his tiny feet to
the fire on these issues.
....
Harry I believe tha as long as trump is president or at least another another conservative then *your* party is in for endless problems...


No, Tim, it is the lower income classes who are "in" for endless
problems, because Trump and the Repugnants will **** them royally over
and over in order to line the pockets of the wealthy.

The strange thing about that statement is there are more
millionaire/billionaire democrats than there are millionaire
republicans. Trump voters are the working class. You only have to look
at the election map to see that.
The democrats get the masses of votes in the cities from people who do
not work at all.