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Shooting the SR1911
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? |
Shooting the SR1911
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:05:11 PM UTC-5, Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? Could be. Was it disassembled and cleaned? Even a brand-new pistol can have manufacturing "stuff" inside that can cause problem. And I have seen some new stuff that just didn't want to run, and had to be sent back for factory tuning to clear them up. I picked up a new AeroPrecision M4E1 a few weeks ago. First thing I did was to field strip and clean it, then took it to the range to run a couple of clips through it. Ran like a top. :) |
Shooting the SR1911
Its Me wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:05:11 PM UTC-5, Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? Could be. Was it disassembled and cleaned? Even a brand-new pistol can have manufacturing "stuff" inside that can cause problem. And I have seen some new stuff that just didn't want to run, and had to be sent back for factory tuning to clear them up. I picked up a new AeroPrecision M4E1 a few weeks ago. First thing I did was to field strip and clean it, then took it to the range to run a couple of clips through it. Ran like a top. :) My Ithaca 20 feather lite had a small piece of metal from the lathe that I had to remove on first pheasant trip. Still have no idea where it was hiding. Had cleaned and shot it at the range before. |
Shooting the SR1911
Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:45:23 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:05:11 PM UTC-5, Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? Could be. Was it disassembled and cleaned? Even a brand-new pistol can have manufacturing "stuff" inside that can cause problem. And I have seen some new stuff that just didn't want to run, and had to be sent back for factory tuning to clear them up. I picked up a new AeroPrecision M4E1 a few weeks ago. First thing I did was to field strip and clean it, then took it to the range to run a couple of clips through it. Ran like a top. :) Yeah, we disassembled and cleaned it before hitting the range this morning. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote:
Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) |
Shooting the SR1911
Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... |
Shooting the SR1911
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:33:34 PM UTC-8, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) Like someone else said, 4-500 rnds thru it will break it in, Also try just 5-6 rnds thru the mag. Harry knows alot about limp wristing so you might ask his advice. BTW, Gord made it to Colombia ok, He wasn't impressed with the boat ride over, from what I gather. Email soon. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:05:21 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The slide lock is a pretty simple operation, the slide lock is pushed by the magazine follower. I suppose a limp wrist might prevent the slide from coming back all the way (slide and your lock failure) but I don't remember seeing it on a hardball .45 I saw a guy drop one, firing it and it landed on the deck, in battery, cocked. Nobody freaked because we remembered the grip safety and other safety features on the Browning design. He didn't get to shoot anymore. The chief reminded him, if it had gone overboard, he would be working for free for a while, |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote:
Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... Last night I'm thinking, OK, the gun works for me but is giving Carmen fits. None of the other guns I've seen Carmen shoot have given him this problem. So why this one? I'm going to call Ruger today and see what they say. |
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Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... Last night I'm thinking, OK, the gun works for me but is giving Carmen fits. None of the other guns I've seen Carmen shoot have given him this problem. So why this one? I'm going to call Ruger today and see what they say. Watch him shoot it. It's probably excessive muzzle flip as a result of limp wristing. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote:
Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:43:14 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. That would be my guess. I bet Ruger put in a stiffer main spring to handle the high performance ammo that is out there these days. The hardball .45s were tuned for mil spec ammo that is not really that hot and has a nice rounded bullet that is tuned to feed well in a 1911. They probably think a stiffer spring makes it more reliable with expanding bullets. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:43:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. Not 'mainspring', recoil spring! |
Shooting the SR1911
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:27:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: Not 'mainspring', recoil spring! I was willing to play along ;-) It is the "main" spring I guess. |
Shooting the SR1911
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Shooting the SR1911
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:14:08 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: Surely you don't mean "main spring," Greg. As I said, I was just playing along. Quibbling about nomenclature is silly as long as we all know what we are talking about. It was clear John was talking about that coily thing that returns the slide into battery. The mainspring is the one that pushes on the hammer strut (in that housing behind the magazine well, flat on the 11, arched on the A1). |
Shooting the SR1911
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Shooting the SR1911
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Shooting the SR1911
On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:23:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:43:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. That would be my guess. I bet Ruger put in a stiffer main spring to handle the high performance ammo that is out there these days. The hardball .45s were tuned for mil spec ammo that is not really that hot and has a nice rounded bullet that is tuned to feed well in a 1911. They probably think a stiffer spring makes it more reliable with expanding bullets. ****. Ruger's closed for the holidays. I wanted to find out the spring strength. Here is an interesting article on recoil springs. http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...ffects-timing/ Checking Brownell's shows recoil springs for 1911s from 9-20 pounds. I think this Ruger must have a 20 pounder, 'cause this slide is a bitch to rack. Tim had an idea...take the spring out of the Kimber, which is much easier to rack, and try it in the Ruger. Might do that. |
Shooting the SR1911
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:23:54 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:43:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. That would be my guess. I bet Ruger put in a stiffer main spring to handle the high performance ammo that is out there these days. The hardball .45s were tuned for mil spec ammo that is not really that hot and has a nice rounded bullet that is tuned to feed well in a 1911. They probably think a stiffer spring makes it more reliable with expanding bullets. ****. Ruger's closed for the holidays. I wanted to find out the spring strength. Here is an interesting article on recoil springs. http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...ffects-timing/ Checking Brownell's shows recoil springs for 1911s from 9-20 pounds. I think this Ruger must have a 20 pounder, 'cause this slide is a bitch to rack. Tim had an idea...take the spring out of the Kimber, which is much easier to rack, and try it in the Ruger. Might do that. That's the great thing about 1911's - many interchangeable parts. Does the Kimber magazine fit the Ruger? |
Shooting the SR1911
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:10:55 -0800 (PST), Poco Loco
wrote: I wanted to find out the spring strength. Here is an interesting article on recoil springs. http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...ffects-timing/ Checking Brownell's shows recoil springs for 1911s from 9-20 pounds. I think this Ruger must have a 20 pounder, 'cause this slide is a bitch to rack. Tim had an idea...take the spring out of the Kimber, which is much easier to rack, and try it in the Ruger. Might do that. I notice the slow cycle time on my decrepit old 1934 Baretta compared to a fairly new commercial version but that gun is 74 years old, all original parts as best I can tell. I thought about getting a new spring but it still runs well. I am leaving well enough alone. I am not shooting anything hot out of it so it is not getting that beat up. The original magazine is pretty much worn out so I got a couple new ones a number of years ago when they were still around. The original has the last 3 digits of the SN so I still keep it around. Most of the major parts are serialized. I probably should have kept this as a "collector gun" but it was my carry gun for years. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 19:04:33 -0500, Alex wrote:
Poco Loco wrote: On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:23:54 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:43:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. That would be my guess. I bet Ruger put in a stiffer main spring to handle the high performance ammo that is out there these days. The hardball .45s were tuned for mil spec ammo that is not really that hot and has a nice rounded bullet that is tuned to feed well in a 1911. They probably think a stiffer spring makes it more reliable with expanding bullets. ****. Ruger's closed for the holidays. I wanted to find out the spring strength. Here is an interesting article on recoil springs. http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...ffects-timing/ Checking Brownell's shows recoil springs for 1911s from 9-20 pounds. I think this Ruger must have a 20 pounder, 'cause this slide is a bitch to rack. Tim had an idea...take the spring out of the Kimber, which is much easier to rack, and try it in the Ruger. Might do that. That's the great thing about 1911's - many interchangeable parts. Does the Kimber magazine fit the Ruger? No, the Kimber magazine won't lock into the Ruger. But, the Wilson Combats work in both, and, strangely, the Ruger magazines work in both. Don't know if you read the article above, but they talked about leaving the slide back to "short" the spring. "They were reinstalled and the slide was locked to the rear for 1 hour. This reduced their length 4 to 7 mms." Well, last night I measured the spring and then left the slide locked rearward all night. The spring measured exactly (according to my calibrated eyeballs) what it had measured the night before, 15.7cm. No change, so I guess the shooting has removed all the new spring shortening. Came across an interesting video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3UVLm2GajI Next step - find what the original spring strength is on the gun. Have found some informative 'tune up' videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTxwKxWVvis And there are more in the series. Uses the right gun to demo with also. |
Shooting the SR1911
Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 19:04:33 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:23:54 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:43:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. That would be my guess. I bet Ruger put in a stiffer main spring to handle the high performance ammo that is out there these days. The hardball .45s were tuned for mil spec ammo that is not really that hot and has a nice rounded bullet that is tuned to feed well in a 1911. They probably think a stiffer spring makes it more reliable with expanding bullets. ****. Ruger's closed for the holidays. I wanted to find out the spring strength. Here is an interesting article on recoil springs. http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...ffects-timing/ Checking Brownell's shows recoil springs for 1911s from 9-20 pounds. I think this Ruger must have a 20 pounder, 'cause this slide is a bitch to rack. Tim had an idea...take the spring out of the Kimber, which is much easier to rack, and try it in the Ruger. Might do that. That's the great thing about 1911's - many interchangeable parts. Does the Kimber magazine fit the Ruger? No, the Kimber magazine won't lock into the Ruger. But, the Wilson Combats work in both, and, strangely, the Ruger magazines work in both. Don't know if you read the article above, but they talked about leaving the slide back to "short" the spring. "They were reinstalled and the slide was locked to the rear for 1 hour. This reduced their length 4 to 7 mms." Well, last night I measured the spring and then left the slide locked rearward all night. The spring measured exactly (according to my calibrated eyeballs) what it had measured the night before, 15.7cm. No change, so I guess the shooting has removed all the new spring shortening. Came across an interesting video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3UVLm2GajI Next step - find what the original spring strength is on the gun. Have found some informative 'tune up' videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTxwKxWVvis And there are more in the series. Uses the right gun to demo with also. Leave the slide locked for a few days. It could help. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:54:41 -0500, Alex wrote:
Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 19:04:33 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:23:54 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:43:14 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote: Poco Loco wrote: Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work. I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE. I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold - no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time. So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll see what happens. But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'? The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger. Their customer service is fantastic. I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting 'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I know Alex. :) That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there... So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in one lane. I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might check into a weaker mainspring. That would be my guess. I bet Ruger put in a stiffer main spring to handle the high performance ammo that is out there these days. The hardball .45s were tuned for mil spec ammo that is not really that hot and has a nice rounded bullet that is tuned to feed well in a 1911. They probably think a stiffer spring makes it more reliable with expanding bullets. ****. Ruger's closed for the holidays. I wanted to find out the spring strength. Here is an interesting article on recoil springs. http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmit...ffects-timing/ Checking Brownell's shows recoil springs for 1911s from 9-20 pounds. I think this Ruger must have a 20 pounder, 'cause this slide is a bitch to rack. Tim had an idea...take the spring out of the Kimber, which is much easier to rack, and try it in the Ruger. Might do that. That's the great thing about 1911's - many interchangeable parts. Does the Kimber magazine fit the Ruger? No, the Kimber magazine won't lock into the Ruger. But, the Wilson Combats work in both, and, strangely, the Ruger magazines work in both. Don't know if you read the article above, but they talked about leaving the slide back to "short" the spring. "They were reinstalled and the slide was locked to the rear for 1 hour. This reduced their length 4 to 7 mms." Well, last night I measured the spring and then left the slide locked rearward all night. The spring measured exactly (according to my calibrated eyeballs) what it had measured the night before, 15.7cm. No change, so I guess the shooting has removed all the new spring shortening. Came across an interesting video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3UVLm2GajI Next step - find what the original spring strength is on the gun. Have found some informative 'tune up' videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTxwKxWVvis And there are more in the series. Uses the right gun to demo with also. Leave the slide locked for a few days. It could help. Tomorrow I'm going to the range to get a 15 pound spring. They sell them there for the same price as any I've seen online, and I won't have to pay shipping! |
Shooting the SR1911
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote:
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:59:43 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote: Tomorrow I'm going to the range to get a 15 pound spring. They sell them there for the same price as any I've seen online, and I won't have to pay shipping! If you load with +p "defense" stuff, you may want to go back to the stronger spring. I never shoot anything but regular ball in my P90 but I suspect it will handle anything I throw at it. I have never had a malfunction but I hold on to the gun ;-) My old CG chief was a competitive shooter and he taught me a whole lot about shooting the .45 He really got ****ed at people who whined about the 1911. He offered to let anyone pick any pistol out of the armory and he would go shoot against you for money, even if you had your tuned up Gold Cup. He had a nice competition pistol and they shot match ammo at the show but he said it did not make that much difference over a hard ball gun and WWII surplus ammo. |
Shooting the SR1911
On 12/23/16 10:04 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. I have no interest in collecting guns. |
Shooting the SR1911
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 22:17:02 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 12/23/16 10:04 PM, wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. I have no interest in collecting guns. Me either. Every one I have has a specific purpose with little overlap. |
Shooting the SR1911
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Shooting the SR1911
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 22:17:02 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/23/16 10:04 PM, wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. I have no interest in collecting guns. Donnie believes that, I'll bet. You forget you've already bragged to us about your 'collectibles'? |
Shooting the SR1911
On 12/23/2016 10:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/23/16 10:04 PM, wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. I have no interest in collecting guns. I have no interest in what you're not interested in. |
Shooting the SR1911
On 12/24/16 8:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/23/2016 10:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/23/16 10:04 PM, wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. I have no interest in collecting guns. I have no interest in what you're not interested in. I'll be sure to file your comment in my "who gives a ****" box, once there is room for it. BTW, are you wearing your "I suck up to Trump" button to ensure your personal safety? |
Shooting the SR1911
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 08:34:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/23/2016 10:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/23/16 10:04 PM, wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. I have no interest in collecting guns. I have no interest in what you're not interested in. LOL! Can't understand why not. |
Shooting the SR1911
wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. If you ever want to sell it, let me know! |
Shooting the SR1911
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/23/16 10:04 PM, wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. I have no interest in collecting guns. Who asked? |
Shooting the SR1911
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 21:29:02 -0500, Alex wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:52:26 -0500, Alex wrote: http://gfretwell.com/ftp/1934.jpg Most if not all of the dings and wear are mine. Harry would dispute the "collector" status because he doesn't own one. Nice firearm! The magazine has the pinky finger tang that completes the grip. That makes it very controllable. http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta-1934-43.jpg The .380 does not produce much recoil to start with and you can get back on target pretty much instantly. When I was shooting a lot I could come from low ready and fire 3 shots into a 5" circle at 7 yards in 2-3 seconds. It is the most natural pointing gun I have ever owned. If you can point your finger at something you can go into the trigger guard and hit it. If you ever want to sell it, let me know! I am not really an arms trader. There are commercial 1934s around and you can probably find a war trophy like this one if you look. |
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