On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 12:52:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:33:33 -0800 (PST), Tim
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No motivation there. What are the chances that the kid will ever get
their act together in a case like that?
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I doubt if much Wayne. I know some professional students who have never had a working job in their life.

One is 48 and working on his 3rd doctorate. Also a fellow in a prestigious northeastern university. As long as there's grant money coming in...

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Academic life can be very rewarding in a non-monetary way but parents
should not be expected to subsidize it. At least they are not laying
around the house blaming everything but themselves.