On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:56:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:09:10 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:59:23 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

When I walked out of the airport in Amsterdam, I was astonished at the number of Teslas waiting to
pick up passengers. The Tesla has gone over big as taxis in A-dam. Besides the half dozen or so at
the airport, I saw another 8-10 on the highways during the nine days I was there. In the past couple
years, I've seen only one on the roads around here.

Of course, Holland is not a huge country.

I looked and there are a few charging stations near me (~20 miles) but
they are all in high end hotels so I assume you have to be staying
there to use them

Ah, with your skills you could install a 50amp outlet in your garage and charge it in no time. The
Cypress Bend RV resort would probably let you hook up to the 50amp outlet for $5.

Getting 50a in the garage is trivial. that is where the main panel is.
The "charging" I am worried about is the hundred grand Musk charges
for the car.
The issue with stations is what to do when you are not home although I
am not that far away very often in a car.

Campgrounds?

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:02:31 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:56:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:09:10 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:59:23 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

When I walked out of the airport in Amsterdam, I was astonished at the number of Teslas waiting to
pick up passengers. The Tesla has gone over big as taxis in A-dam. Besides the half dozen or so at
the airport, I saw another 8-10 on the highways during the nine days I was there. In the past couple
years, I've seen only one on the roads around here.

Of course, Holland is not a huge country.

I looked and there are a few charging stations near me (~20 miles) but
they are all in high end hotels so I assume you have to be staying
there to use them

Ah, with your skills you could install a 50amp outlet in your garage and charge it in no time. The
Cypress Bend RV resort would probably let you hook up to the 50amp outlet for $5.

Getting 50a in the garage is trivial. that is where the main panel is.
The "charging" I am worried about is the hundred grand Musk charges
for the car.
The issue with stations is what to do when you are not home although I
am not that far away very often in a car.

Campgrounds?
I think you need more than a handy 14-50r
Perhaps you could carry a charger in the trunk and put an RV plug on
it but you better have a few adapters.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:29:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:02:31 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:56:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:09:10 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:59:23 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

When I walked out of the airport in Amsterdam, I was astonished at the number of Teslas waiting to
pick up passengers. The Tesla has gone over big as taxis in A-dam. Besides the half dozen or so at
the airport, I saw another 8-10 on the highways during the nine days I was there. In the past couple
years, I've seen only one on the roads around here.

Of course, Holland is not a huge country.

I looked and there are a few charging stations near me (~20 miles) but
they are all in high end hotels so I assume you have to be staying
there to use them

Ah, with your skills you could install a 50amp outlet in your garage and charge it in no time. The
Cypress Bend RV resort would probably let you hook up to the 50amp outlet for $5.

Getting 50a in the garage is trivial. that is where the main panel is.
The "charging" I am worried about is the hundred grand Musk charges
for the car.
The issue with stations is what to do when you are not home although I
am not that far away very often in a car.

Campgrounds?
I think you need more than a handy 14-50r
Perhaps you could carry a charger in the trunk and put an RV plug on
it but you better have a few adapters.

Tesla sells a bunch of adapters.

On 9/11/16 1:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:02:31 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:56:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:09:10 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:59:23 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

When I walked out of the airport in Amsterdam, I was astonished at the number of Teslas waiting to
pick up passengers. The Tesla has gone over big as taxis in A-dam. Besides the half dozen or so at
the airport, I saw another 8-10 on the highways during the nine days I was there. In the past couple
years, I've seen only one on the roads around here.

Of course, Holland is not a huge country.

I looked and there are a few charging stations near me (~20 miles) but
they are all in high end hotels so I assume you have to be staying
there to use them

Ah, with your skills you could install a 50amp outlet in your garage and charge it in no time. The
Cypress Bend RV resort would probably let you hook up to the 50amp outlet for $5.

Getting 50a in the garage is trivial. that is where the main panel is.
The "charging" I am worried about is the hundred grand Musk charges
for the car.
The issue with stations is what to do when you are not home although I
am not that far away very often in a car.

Campgrounds?
I think you need more than a handy 14-50r
Perhaps you could carry a charger in the trunk and put an RV plug on
it but you better have a few adapters.


Nissan's "Leaf," which lists at about $30,000, gets just over 100 miles
per charge and is opting for a larger capacity battery for the 2017
model, a change that promises about 150 miles per charge. I don't know
if that includes running the AC. I drive about that many miles per week
unless we're going somewhere out of the local area.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:30:57 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Nissan's "Leaf," which lists at about $30,000, gets just over 100 miles
per charge and is opting for a larger capacity battery for the 2017
model, a change that promises about 150 miles per charge. I don't know
if that includes running the AC. I drive about that many miles per week
unless we're going somewhere out of the local area.

I doubt it includes the A/C or the lights. A typical 24,000 BTU
inverter A/C unit (roughly what a car uses) will use 2.5 KWH so it
will eat some battery. Heat will be an even bigger hit.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/11/16 1:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:02:31 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:56:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:09:10 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:59:23 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

When I walked out of the airport in Amsterdam, I was astonished at
the number of Teslas waiting to
pick up passengers. The Tesla has gone over big as taxis in A-dam.
Besides the half dozen or so at
the airport, I saw another 8-10 on the highways during the nine
days I was there. In the past couple
years, I've seen only one on the roads around here.

Of course, Holland is not a huge country.

I looked and there are a few charging stations near me (~20 miles) but
they are all in high end hotels so I assume you have to be staying
there to use them

Ah, with your skills you could install a 50amp outlet in your garage
and charge it in no time. The
Cypress Bend RV resort would probably let you hook up to the 50amp outlet for $5.

Getting 50a in the garage is trivial. that is where the main panel is.
The "charging" I am worried about is the hundred grand Musk charges
for the car.
The issue with stations is what to do when you are not home although I
am not that far away very often in a car.

Campgrounds?
I think you need more than a handy 14-50r
Perhaps you could carry a charger in the trunk and put an RV plug on
it but you better have a few adapters.


Nissan's "Leaf," which lists at about $30,000, gets just over 100 miles
per charge and is opting for a larger capacity battery for the 2017
model, a change that promises about 150 miles per charge. I don't know
if that includes running the AC. I drive about that many miles per week
unless we're going somewhere out of the local area.


The leaf does OK in cool areas. Hot areas, and the leaf battery has a high
failure rate. Bad cooling circuit. Talked to a Leaf guy last year in San
Diego, and his complaint was the $100 a month t charge.My friend has a
Volt, he says about 40 miles on a charge.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:21:52 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

and his complaint was the $100 a month t charge

How far does he drive? $100 worth of gas would last me several months
in my car. I would use a little less than that in my boat too.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:44:26 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:21:52 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

and his complaint was the $100 a month t charge

How far does he drive? $100 worth of gas would last me several months
in my car. I would use a little less than that in my boat too.

Well, since the Tesla isn't rated for 12,000 lbs and probably not as fun as the motorcycle, it'll
have to go the way of my Porsche 911 - remaining on the lot.

But...you need to get out more!

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:02:31 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:56:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:09:10 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:59:23 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

When I walked out of the airport in Amsterdam, I was astonished at the number of Teslas waiting to
pick up passengers. The Tesla has gone over big as taxis in A-dam. Besides the half dozen or so at
the airport, I saw another 8-10 on the highways during the nine days I was there. In the past couple
years, I've seen only one on the roads around here.

Of course, Holland is not a huge country.

I looked and there are a few charging stations near me (~20 miles) but
they are all in high end hotels so I assume you have to be staying
there to use them

Ah, with your skills you could install a 50amp outlet in your garage and charge it in no time. The
Cypress Bend RV resort would probably let you hook up to the 50amp outlet for $5.

Getting 50a in the garage is trivial. that is where the main panel is.
The "charging" I am worried about is the hundred grand Musk charges
for the car.
The issue with stations is what to do when you are not home although I
am not that far away very often in a car.

Campgrounds?

I just looked and Tesla does have an onboard charger and it will work
on a 14-50 or a 1-15/5-20 if you have the right adapters with you.
The optional "Dual Charger" doubles the power it can take.

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:43:59 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:02:31 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:56:40 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 11:09:10 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:54:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:59:23 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

When I walked out of the airport in Amsterdam, I was astonished at the number of Teslas waiting to
pick up passengers. The Tesla has gone over big as taxis in A-dam. Besides the half dozen or so at
the airport, I saw another 8-10 on the highways during the nine days I was there. In the past couple
years, I've seen only one on the roads around here.

Of course, Holland is not a huge country.

I looked and there are a few charging stations near me (~20 miles) but
they are all in high end hotels so I assume you have to be staying
there to use them

Ah, with your skills you could install a 50amp outlet in your garage and charge it in no time. The
Cypress Bend RV resort would probably let you hook up to the 50amp outlet for $5.

Getting 50a in the garage is trivial. that is where the main panel is.
The "charging" I am worried about is the hundred grand Musk charges
for the car.
The issue with stations is what to do when you are not home although I
am not that far away very often in a car.

Campgrounds?

I just looked and Tesla does have an onboard charger and it will work
on a 14-50 or a 1-15/5-20 if you have the right adapters with you.
The optional "Dual Charger" doubles the power it can take.


===

You could get one of those "rear shelf" kits that mounts on a trailer
hitch receiver and install a couple of Honda generators on it.
Together with your power adapters you could make a *******ized hybrid
out of it. :-)