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On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 11:12:55 -0500, Califbill
wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 08:35:15 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:56:38 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 9/11/16 8:00 PM, wrote: On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:42:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: You mean the ones who have gone through three to four years of serious apprenticeship training and on the job training? Absolutely in comparison to those who haven't. I am having a hard time thinking of a trade that takes 4 years to learn. This is more about limiting the number of people who can get into the trades. There may have been a time when trades were arts but technology has made the most intricate skills obsolete. Nobody is packing oakum in cast iron pipe and filling it with molten lead. Your experience on jobsites that are more than stick built houses and tilt up strip malls obviously is limited. Try laying out and building a one wythe serpentine wall 100' feet long, building a 12 story loadbearing office building, doing the pipe welding for a nuclear facility or the iron work on a 60-story building and get back to me with your two weeks of training. Your arrogance about the lack of skills of construction craftworkers never ceases to astonish. Thank God for the well-educated engineers making the blueprints easy enough to follow, eh? === And the project engineers/managers who track the work in progress. When I was a kid, my father build a block front to his machine shop. The union brick layers picketed until they hired them. They lasted one day. They started mortar in the morning and just added to it during the day. That evening a light rain and the wall they built collapsed. Yup, union brick layers are highly trained. When I built the addition in Maryland I hired union type bricklayers to do the veneer on the front because they are fast and do a good job but they were working off the books for cash. The block and concrete guy I used was just a good old boy who used to be in the union but he went off on his own. His kid took over the business as a non-union shop. He was learning the job at the time and I was following along. I got to be a pretty good block guy after about a week but I am slow. I know how to square up the job, lay the corner piers and lay block to the line. |
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