Actually I hope this inspires competition.

On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."

One of my neighbors is diabetic and earlier this week when the Epipen
scandal broke, he mentioned that two insulin products he has used,
Novolog something or other and Humalog something or other, from two
competing manufacturers, had "list prices" of around $1100 for a one
month supply. He pays less because of his insurance, but he still pays a
lot. No competition in price. It's the American way for many products.
Competition is not the answer.

I doubt the Epipens cost more than $2 or $3 to manufacture, including
the drug and the injector. I read a report that in Canada, a Canadian in
need of an Epipen pays about $12.

On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free market" is part of the "American dream"

On 8/28/16 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:21:40 -0400 (EDT), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free market" is part of the "American dream"


Ahhh. Sorta like that GOP b.s. about trickle down economics...

Only a democrat would believe a government imposed monopoly is the way
to go. I bet you think Comcast is good too.



There's no monopoly in the insulin drugs I previously mentioned, yet
both competitors charge the same outrageous price for their
products...and there have been numerous news articles discussing
collusion in the pharma industry to avoid "competitiveness." In many
market segments, even though there are competitors, there is no
competition.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/28/16 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:21:40 -0400 (EDT), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free
market" is part of the "American dream"


Ahhh. Sorta like that GOP b.s. about trickle down economics...

Only a democrat would believe a government imposed monopoly is the way
to go. I bet you think Comcast is good too.



There's no monopoly in the insulin drugs I previously mentioned, yet
both competitors charge the same outrageous price for their
products...and there have been numerous news articles discussing
collusion in the pharma industry to avoid "competitiveness." In many
market segments, even though there are competitors, there is no
competition.


How come a mostly Democrat controlled presidency has not fixed that in the
last 2 years? Maybe because they are controlled by Wall Street?

Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/28/16 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:21:40 -0400 (EDT), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free
market" is part of the "American dream"


Ahhh. Sorta like that GOP b.s. about trickle down economics...

Only a democrat would believe a government imposed monopoly is the way
to go. I bet you think Comcast is good too.



There's no monopoly in the insulin drugs I previously mentioned, yet
both competitors charge the same outrageous price for their
products...and there have been numerous news articles discussing
collusion in the pharma industry to avoid "competitiveness." In many
market segments, even though there are competitors, there is no
competition.


How come a mostly Democrat controlled presidency has not fixed that in the
last 2 years? Maybe because they are controlled by Wall Street?



20 years

On 8/28/16 12:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/28/16 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:21:40 -0400 (EDT), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free
market" is part of the "American dream"


Ahhh. Sorta like that GOP b.s. about trickle down economics...

Only a democrat would believe a government imposed monopoly is the way
to go. I bet you think Comcast is good too.



There's no monopoly in the insulin drugs I previously mentioned, yet
both competitors charge the same outrageous price for their
products...and there have been numerous news articles discussing
collusion in the pharma industry to avoid "competitiveness." In many
market segments, even though there are competitors, there is no
competition.


How come a mostly Democrat controlled presidency has not fixed that in the
last 2 years? Maybe because they are controlled by Wall Street?


The Repugnant-controlled Congress won't allow the proper legislation to
get anyway. Bernie Sanders has introduced a bill to remedy and reign in
the Big Pharma Banksters, but it isn't going to go anywhere until
Hillary takes over the White House.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/28/16 12:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/28/16 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:21:40 -0400 (EDT), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free
market" is part of the "American dream"


Ahhh. Sorta like that GOP b.s. about trickle down economics...

Only a democrat would believe a government imposed monopoly is the way
to go. I bet you think Comcast is good too.



There's no monopoly in the insulin drugs I previously mentioned, yet
both competitors charge the same outrageous price for their
products...and there have been numerous news articles discussing
collusion in the pharma industry to avoid "competitiveness." In many
market segments, even though there are competitors, there is no
competition.


How come a mostly Democrat controlled presidency has not fixed that in the
last 2 years? Maybe because they are controlled by Wall Street?


The Repugnant-controlled Congress won't allow the proper legislation to
get anyway. Bernie Sanders has introduced a bill to remedy and reign in
the Big Pharma Banksters, but it isn't going to go anywhere until
Hillary takes over the White House.


..yup, all republican fault. Not the fact a Democrat senator's daughter is
in charge of the ripoff.

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:13:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 8/28/16 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:21:40 -0400 (EDT), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free market" is part of the "American dream"


Ahhh. Sorta like that GOP b.s. about trickle down economics...

Only a democrat would believe a government imposed monopoly is the way
to go. I bet you think Comcast is good too.



There's no monopoly in the insulin drugs I previously mentioned, yet
both competitors charge the same outrageous price for their
products...and there have been numerous news articles discussing
collusion in the pharma industry to avoid "competitiveness." In many
market segments, even though there are competitors, there is no
competition.

I have never supported monopolies or market collusion. That is not a
free market. In the case of insulin, why are there only 2 sources.

On 8/28/16 7:40 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:13:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 8/28/16 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:21:40 -0400 (EDT), Keyser Soze
wrote:

Tim Wrote in message:
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 7:33:15 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/27/16 9:52 PM, Tim wrote:
Actually I hope this inspires competition.



Ahhh...that old American dream...the "free market" and "competition."


Exactly. the more the "competition" the better the pricing. Yes "free market" is part of the "American dream"


Ahhh. Sorta like that GOP b.s. about trickle down economics...

Only a democrat would believe a government imposed monopoly is the way
to go. I bet you think Comcast is good too.



There's no monopoly in the insulin drugs I previously mentioned, yet
both competitors charge the same outrageous price for their
products...and there have been numerous news articles discussing
collusion in the pharma industry to avoid "competitiveness." In many
market segments, even though there are competitors, there is no
competition.

I have never supported monopolies or market collusion. That is not a
free market. In the case of insulin, why are there only 2 sources.

You mean, a free market doesn't mean those doing the marketing have the
freedom to do anything they wish?