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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:32:42 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: I'm thinking I need a Mini-14 so I can sit on the front porch and plink chipmunks. That is way overkill. A decent pellet gun will do the deed and not scare the neighbors. Of course a load of rat shot is less challenging. Harry's suppressor will make it quieter than the pellet gun. |
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Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:04:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: 11:24 AMjustan Tim Wrote in message: On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 8:09:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:46:13 -0700 (PDT), True North - hide quoted text - wrote: Someone else must have gotten the rat...no sign of him for a couple of months. Trust me, he is still around, with plenty of friends. There is a formula for rats. If you see one at night, you have a bunch. If you see one in the daytime, you have a ****load. Rats are tough and it is real hard to get rid of them. I haven't seen a Rattus norvegicus here but we have lots of Rattus rattus (AKA roof rats, tree rats, fruit rats or "palmetto" squirrels). I know better than to think I can eliminate them but I do keep a bait station in the boat house. Based on the bait I go through, there must be a lot of dead ones somewhere ... or they have developed an immunity to it. I have had them chewing up the boat wiring from time to time. If one gets into the console, it is a mess. The last time it was my fault. I did not have the door closed tight and it popped open. I have also had them hiding on the boat and Mr Ed flushes them out. That is exciting until they jump in the water. A rat running around being chased by a 112 pound dog. Auggie Doggie was better at it. Occasionally he could catch it, kill it and bring it to you. Louie (the dachshund mix) was deadly on them. If they didn't get overboard right away they were dead. On the old farm place I run though a lot of bait too. concerning immunity yes I suppose it can happen. I switch brands ever so often for that possibility. There's no immunity from a snap trap. I'm thinking I need a Mini-14 so I can sit on the front porch and plink chipmunks. My buddy in Folsom shoots the ground squirrels with a pellet gun. Works great, cheap, quiet. They keep chewing up his irrigation system. |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:55:11 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: I still have about 1/2 gallon of Clordane. Nasty stuff, but it works. Me to but I am not squirting it around for stuff like this. It is best in places where you are sure it will be sequestered for 30 years. The last time I used it was inside a wall that would be closed up. I still have some powder. |
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justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message: justan Wrote in message: - show quoted text - "The ants look for a dark untouched safe place like a kanuck wallet." Canadians are some of the most generous compassionate people on earth. We brought in 25,000 Syrians displaced by the fighting over there. That would be the equivalent of y'all bringing in a quarter million. So...just how many did you bring in? Do we need to build a northern fense too? Looks like it. Have they not looked at the problems incurred in Europe with the Syrian area immigrants? |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:46:11 -0500, Califbill wrote: There's no immunity from a snap trap. We had snap mouse traps and they tripped and no mouse. Went to rat trap and was a roof rat, that was to big for the mouse trap. I tried them and never caught a roof rat. I had a lot better luck with the glue traps and this live trap was very good. http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/rattus_rattus.jpg These are the ones who take up residence under the house, and visit the garage. Bait the trap with sunflower seeds. Stick some seeds on peanut butter. |
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True North wrote:
justan Wrote in message: - show quoted text - "The ants look for a dark untouched safe place like Â*a kanuck wallet." Canadians are some of the most generous compassionate people on earth. We brought in 25,000 Syrians displaced by the fighting over there. That would be the equivalent of y'all bringing in a quarter million. So...just how many did you bring in? They do not tip. |
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Califbill
- hide quoted text - True North wrote: justan Wrote in message: - show quoted text - "The ants look for a dark untouched safe place like Â*a kanuck wallet.." Canadians are some of the most generous compassionate people on earth. We brought in 25,000 Syrians displaced by the fighting over there. That would be the equivalent of y'all bringing in a quarter million. So...just how many did you bring in? "They do not tip." Who...the Syrians? Give them a chance...if you stay off roofs, they'll probably own you before you take the long nap. |
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True North wrote:
Califbill - hide quoted text - True North wrote: justan Wrote in message: - show quoted text - "The ants look for a dark untouched safe place like Â*a kanuck wallet." Canadians are some of the most generous compassionate people on earth. We brought in 25,000 Syrians displaced by the fighting over there. That would be the equivalent of y'all bringing in a quarter million. So...just how many did you bring in? "They do not tip." Who...the Syrians? Give them a chance...if you stay off roofs, they'll probably own you before you take the long nap. Bill's brain already is on the long nap. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:06:26 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
justan Wrote in message: - show quoted text - "The ants look for a dark untouched safe place like *a kanuck wallet." Canadians are some of the most generous compassionate people on earth. We brought in 25,000 Syrians displaced by the fighting over there. That would be the equivalent of y'all bringing in a quarter million. So...just how many did you bring in? How many Mexicans have you taken in? Your 25,000 ain't ****. |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Tim Wrote in message: 11:24 AMjustan Tim Wrote in message: On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 8:09:35 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:46:13 -0700 (PDT), True North - hide quoted text - wrote: Someone else must have gotten the rat...no sign of him for a couple of months. Trust me, he is still around, with plenty of friends. There is a formula for rats. If you see one at night, you have a bunch. If you see one in the daytime, you have a ****load. Rats are tough and it is real hard to get rid of them. I haven't seen a Rattus norvegicus here but we have lots of Rattus rattus (AKA roof rats, tree rats, fruit rats or "palmetto" squirrels). I know better than to think I can eliminate them but I do keep a bait station in the boat house. Based on the bait I go through, there must be a lot of dead ones somewhere ... or they have developed an immunity to it. I have had them chewing up the boat wiring from time to time. If one gets into the console, it is a mess. The last time it was my fault. I did not have the door closed tight and it popped open. I have also had them hiding on the boat and Mr Ed flushes them out. That is exciting until they jump in the water. A rat running around being chased by a 112 pound dog. Auggie Doggie was better at it. Occasionally he could catch it, kill it and bring it to you. Louie (the dachshund mix) was deadly on them. If they didn't get overboard right away they were dead. On the old farm place I run though a lot of bait too. concerning immunity yes I suppose it can happen. I switch brands ever so often for that possibility. There's no immunity from a snap trap. -- very true, but that's one at a time . I want murder by the masses. Besides, the old saying is true. " the early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese..." One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:27:18 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:52:26 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:29:57 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 12:11:53 -0400, wrote: . Orthene was what I used on the fire ants here but the ants I have now don't have mounds to treat. I think they live under concrete slabs and just pop up through any available penetration or crack. I never see a mound and treating the edges and penetrations just moves them around. I am using bifen now, based on advice from the home repair NG. Lambda-Cyhalothrin based stuff was pretty good but I guess somebody decided it was too good because HD/Lowes doesn't sell it anymore here. Amazon does. https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb...da-Cyhalothrin The boys over on Home Repair swear bifen is the stuff I want so I am giving it a shot. That too: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...eywords=biffen I shot some around and I am not convinced I am still seeing ants but there may not be as many. Any of these perimeter sprays will only work if you can establish a true perimeter and I think they are coming up from under the house. I can't really get at all the penetrations. I may go up on the roof and try to trickle some down the soil pipes but I am not sure how to get past the lead flashing without compromising it. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:06 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. You are supposed to smear the peanut butter on bacon that is firmly attached to the trap trigger. They can lick off peanut butter without tripping the trap but once they get a taste of that bacon, they want it. I gave up on the Victor rat traps and went with glue traps or my live trap. I either shoot them or drop the trap in a trash can full of water. You can't leave them in there too long or they will chew through that 1/2" hardware cloth. |
was rident, now ants.
True North wrote:
Califbill - hide quoted text - True North wrote: justan Wrote in message: - show quoted text - "The ants look for a dark untouched safe place like Â*a kanuck wallet." Canadians are some of the most generous compassionate people on earth. We brought in 25,000 Syrians displaced by the fighting over there. That would be the equivalent of y'all bringing in a quarter million. So...just how many did you bring in? "They do not tip." Who...the Syrians? Give them a chance...if you stay off roofs, they'll probably own you before you take the long nap. Follow the thread. Canadians are cheap tippers! |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
Hey John. You might as well... http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-F4...hetic/44377326 Not in this damn county! |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:59:08 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:06 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. You are supposed to smear the peanut butter on bacon that is firmly attached to the trap trigger. They can lick off peanut butter without tripping the trap but once they get a taste of that bacon, they want it. I gave up on the Victor rat traps and went with glue traps or my live trap. I either shoot them or drop the trap in a trash can full of water. You can't leave them in there too long or they will chew through that 1/2" hardware cloth. I have yet to see the peanut butter removed without the trap being sprung. I'm using one of these: http://tinyurl.com/hjl9sab |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:18:29 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:59:08 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:06 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. You are supposed to smear the peanut butter on bacon that is firmly attached to the trap trigger. They can lick off peanut butter without tripping the trap but once they get a taste of that bacon, they want it. I gave up on the Victor rat traps and went with glue traps or my live trap. I either shoot them or drop the trap in a trash can full of water. You can't leave them in there too long or they will chew through that 1/2" hardware cloth. I have yet to see the peanut butter removed without the trap being sprung. I'm using one of these: http://tinyurl.com/hjl9sab I have a small one like that one that I made years ago. It works pretty well but since it is 1/2" hardware cloth, a rat can eat through it if they have enough time. The only time it happened, I had looked at the rat in the trap, decided he wasn't going anywhere and went back to sleep. Usually they are calmly waiting until they see you coming. I had one of the larger raccoon size Havahearts when I was trying to get the cats and a raccoon tore a hole in it trying to get pups out, BTW I guess I am feeling benevolent today. Mr Ed cornered a cat in the pipe rack behind my shed and I haven't shot him ... yet. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:18:29 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:59:08 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:06 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. You are supposed to smear the peanut butter on bacon that is firmly attached to the trap trigger. They can lick off peanut butter without tripping the trap but once they get a taste of that bacon, they want it. I gave up on the Victor rat traps and went with glue traps or my live trap. I either shoot them or drop the trap in a trash can full of water. You can't leave them in there too long or they will chew through that 1/2" hardware cloth. I have yet to see the peanut butter removed without the trap being sprung. I'm using one of these: http://tinyurl.com/hjl9sab I have a small one like that one that I made years ago. It works pretty well but since it is 1/2" hardware cloth, a rat can eat through it if they have enough time. The only time it happened, I had looked at the rat in the trap, decided he wasn't going anywhere and went back to sleep. Usually they are calmly waiting until they see you coming. I had one of the larger raccoon size Havahearts when I was trying to get the cats and a raccoon tore a hole in it trying to get pups out, BTW I guess I am feeling benevolent today. Mr Ed cornered a cat in the pipe rack behind my shed and I haven't shot him ... yet. Why would you shoot Mr. Ed? ;) |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:48:54 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:18:29 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:59:08 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:06 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. You are supposed to smear the peanut butter on bacon that is firmly attached to the trap trigger. They can lick off peanut butter without tripping the trap but once they get a taste of that bacon, they want it. I gave up on the Victor rat traps and went with glue traps or my live trap. I either shoot them or drop the trap in a trash can full of water. You can't leave them in there too long or they will chew through that 1/2" hardware cloth. I have yet to see the peanut butter removed without the trap being sprung. I'm using one of these: http://tinyurl.com/hjl9sab I have a small one like that one that I made years ago. It works pretty well but since it is 1/2" hardware cloth, a rat can eat through it if they have enough time. The only time it happened, I had looked at the rat in the trap, decided he wasn't going anywhere and went back to sleep. Usually they are calmly waiting until they see you coming. I had one of the larger raccoon size Havahearts when I was trying to get the cats and a raccoon tore a hole in it trying to get pups out, BTW I guess I am feeling benevolent today. Mr Ed cornered a cat in the pipe rack behind my shed and I haven't shot him ... yet. Why the hell would you shoot Mr Ed for cornering a damn cat? I'd consider shooting the cat instead. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:02:49 -0500, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:18:29 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:59:08 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:06 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. You are supposed to smear the peanut butter on bacon that is firmly attached to the trap trigger. They can lick off peanut butter without tripping the trap but once they get a taste of that bacon, they want it. I gave up on the Victor rat traps and went with glue traps or my live trap. I either shoot them or drop the trap in a trash can full of water. You can't leave them in there too long or they will chew through that 1/2" hardware cloth. I have yet to see the peanut butter removed without the trap being sprung. I'm using one of these: http://tinyurl.com/hjl9sab I have a small one like that one that I made years ago. It works pretty well but since it is 1/2" hardware cloth, a rat can eat through it if they have enough time. The only time it happened, I had looked at the rat in the trap, decided he wasn't going anywhere and went back to sleep. Usually they are calmly waiting until they see you coming. I had one of the larger raccoon size Havahearts when I was trying to get the cats and a raccoon tore a hole in it trying to get pups out, BTW I guess I am feeling benevolent today. Mr Ed cornered a cat in the pipe rack behind my shed and I haven't shot him ... yet. Why would you shoot Mr. Ed? ;) GMTA! |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:02:49 -0500, Califbill
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:18:29 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:59:08 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:31:06 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:55:13 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote: One got into the storage compartment of my camper. Aftter seeing evidence I set a trap baited with peanut butter. Got the sucker within 12 hrs. Had no evidence thereafter. One rat can do a lot of damage if given enough time. Do you use the crunchy or the creamy? My rodents seem to prefer the creamy, Jif of course. You are supposed to smear the peanut butter on bacon that is firmly attached to the trap trigger. They can lick off peanut butter without tripping the trap but once they get a taste of that bacon, they want it. I gave up on the Victor rat traps and went with glue traps or my live trap. I either shoot them or drop the trap in a trash can full of water. You can't leave them in there too long or they will chew through that 1/2" hardware cloth. I have yet to see the peanut butter removed without the trap being sprung. I'm using one of these: http://tinyurl.com/hjl9sab I have a small one like that one that I made years ago. It works pretty well but since it is 1/2" hardware cloth, a rat can eat through it if they have enough time. The only time it happened, I had looked at the rat in the trap, decided he wasn't going anywhere and went back to sleep. Usually they are calmly waiting until they see you coming. I had one of the larger raccoon size Havahearts when I was trying to get the cats and a raccoon tore a hole in it trying to get pups out, BTW I guess I am feeling benevolent today. Mr Ed cornered a cat in the pipe rack behind my shed and I haven't shot him ... yet. Why would you shoot Mr. Ed? ;) For not eating the cat.? I suppose I need to write more clearly here. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Hey John. You might as well... http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-F4...hetic/44377326 === That should certainly get the job done. Unfortunately the pellet at 1200 fps it will probably make a sonic boom "crack". Better if it were something like 950 fps or thereabouts. Personally I like CO2 for rapid follow up shots. |
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On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 6:56:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Hey John. You might as well... http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-F4...hetic/44377326 === That should certainly get the job done. Unfortunately the pellet at 1200 fps it will probably make a sonic boom "crack". Better if it were something like 950 fps or thereabouts. Personally I like CO2 for rapid follow up shots. Yews, but I'm not a fan of buying co2 cartridges... |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:50:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 6:56:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Hey John. You might as well... http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-F4...hetic/44377326 === That should certainly get the job done. Unfortunately the pellet at 1200 fps it will probably make a sonic boom "crack". Better if it were something like 950 fps or thereabouts. Personally I like CO2 for rapid follow up shots. Yews, but I'm not a fan of buying co2 cartridges... I must have bought a case when they were cheap because I don't think I paid more than a quarter each. I still have a lifetime supply |
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