On 7/16/16 8:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:31:48 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

On 7/15/2016 12:51 PM, wrote:
In the light of the Nice France attack, I think it is time to call for
truck control. We need to register all of the trucks. We need to
license all of the people owning and using trucks. We need to regulate
how fast they go, how much they can carry and we need to regulate
private sales, requiring that all are documented with the government.

Oh wait ... they do. Yet 84 people were killed and many more had
horrific injuries, caused by this fully automatic truck.


Entirely predictable - a one time massacre of up to a hundred with a
truck outweighs (for example) the twenty thousand who shoot themselves
each and every year.
And if it is mentioned how this number can readily be reduced by social
forces, the predictable NRA response to that is:
"No - not so - they will just find another way to top themselves" which
by the way is evidentially disproven.


It certainly is not disproved by the japanese who have a far higher
suicide rate than the US with virtually zero guns.

Suicide is a mental health issue, not a gun issue.


Oh, please. Guns make suicide easy.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 21:13:05 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/16/16 8:38 PM, wrote:

Suicide is a mental health issue, not a gun issue.


Oh, please. Guns make suicide easy.

There are lots of things that are easy. It doesn't mean it causes
people to do it. You still need the mental desire to take your own
life.
In a country awash with opiates, a drug OD is pretty simple.
My nephew did the deed with a rope. That was pretty easy too and he
was smart enough to make the rope long enough to make death pretty
much instant.

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I keep my firearms stored in a closet with trigger locks in place
I never quite understood what a trigger lock was for unless you were
just trying to keep a toddler from using the gun. It would only slow
down a teenager for a few minutes and a thief can still steal the gun.
I was able to get the trigger lock off of a pistol I bought with a
paper clip, in about 30 seconds without any damage to the pistol or
the lock. If I did not care about the lock, it would have been more
like 5 seconds. using one of any number of common tools.
I really prefer locking up the whole gun, preferably in a safe that is
hard to find. Again, I think a big safe sitting in plain view is just
a target. These days, safe cracking tools are at the Home Depot. A
metal blade in a cutoff saw or even a grinder will make short work of
most safes (typically 16ga steel). If it is a "better" safe, go with a
diamond blade.

One of my safes is in plain view but bolted to the floor. It's also not
a Bass Pro special. It's very well made and would take a long time to
breach.

True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
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On 7/16/16 9:20 AM, justan wrote:
Its Me Wrote in message:
On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 10:22:10 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
True North wrote:
JackOff ejaculates.....

"But they pretty much stripped you of your firearms, eh? :"


I have the same firearms I had 20 years ago.
If you don't count the 303 Lee Enfield I sold to a coworker...more like 35 years.

The ignorati think Canadians cannot own firearms

Nope, but they are ver restricted.
Let me fix that... *VERY* restricted. Donny must have owned some very pedestrian firearms, if any at all. If none, then he still owns none, eh?

The way things rot and corrode up thar in the salty air, Id be
surprised if a bullet could make it all the way down his
barrel.
--
x


" My guess is â€*he salty air/water in Floriduh is more corrosive."


My captain buddy in the British Virgin Islands insists that the salt concentration is higher nearer the Equator.
He knows a lot more about boats than The StinkyOne.

What does your Bayliner salesman have to say?

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:33:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


" My guess is â€*he salty air/water in Floriduh is more corrosive."


My captain buddy in the British Virgin Islands insists that the salt concentration is higher nearer the Equator.
He knows a lot more about boats than The StinkyOne.
The real issue has more to do with temperature than salinity. Heat
makes chemical reactions go faster. Once you get over 30c, bad stuff
happens fast. The same is true about the nasties in swimming pools. My
Dutch neighbor does not understand that. The things that he does with
his pool in the winter around here (24-25 water) just will not work in
the summer. I declared a mutiny, changed the timer on his pump and
cranked up the chlorine generator, after it turned into a frog pond.

As for the rust thing, in tropical salt water, hot dipped galvanized
will rust out in 5 or 6 years.

I'm surprised they would last that long. 304 stainless doesn't fare
well in the salt.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:33:28 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I keep my firearms stored in a closet with trigger locks in place
I never quite understood what a trigger lock was for unless you were
just trying to keep a toddler from using the gun. It would only slow
down a teenager for a few minutes and a thief can still steal the gun.
I was able to get the trigger lock off of a pistol I bought with a
paper clip, in about 30 seconds without any damage to the pistol or
the lock. If I did not care about the lock, it would have been more
like 5 seconds. using one of any number of common tools.
I really prefer locking up the whole gun, preferably in a safe that is
hard to find. Again, I think a big safe sitting in plain view is just
a target. These days, safe cracking tools are at the Home Depot. A
metal blade in a cutoff saw or even a grinder will make short work of
most safes (typically 16ga steel). If it is a "better" safe, go with a
diamond blade.

One of my safes is in plain view but bolted to the floor. It's also not
a Bass Pro special. It's very well made and would take a long time to
breach.

Have you ever seen what a diamond wheel on a 14" cutoff saw will do?
It may be a little noisy and pretty messy but it is not slow.
Usually a real thief will go after the sides or the back. They might
cut the top off.
They usually know where the weak spot is.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:36:59 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 09:33:49 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


" My guess is â€*he salty air/water in Floriduh is more corrosive."


My captain buddy in the British Virgin Islands insists that the salt concentration is higher nearer the Equator.
He knows a lot more about boats than The StinkyOne.
The real issue has more to do with temperature than salinity. Heat
makes chemical reactions go faster. Once you get over 30c, bad stuff
happens fast. The same is true about the nasties in swimming pools. My
Dutch neighbor does not understand that. The things that he does with
his pool in the winter around here (24-25 water) just will not work in
the summer. I declared a mutiny, changed the timer on his pump and
cranked up the chlorine generator, after it turned into a frog pond.

As for the rust thing, in tropical salt water, hot dipped galvanized
will rust out in 5 or 6 years.

I'm surprised they would last that long. 304 stainless doesn't fare
well in the salt.

304 will develop surface rust but it stops there. Once you get through
that galvanizing, regular steel keeps going bad.

Jul 16Keyser Söze
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Oh, please. Guns make suicide easy.
.....

So do box knives and razor blades. Not counting broken glass

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:33:28 -0400, Alex wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I keep my firearms stored in a closet with trigger locks in place
I never quite understood what a trigger lock was for unless you were
just trying to keep a toddler from using the gun. It would only slow
down a teenager for a few minutes and a thief can still steal the gun.
I was able to get the trigger lock off of a pistol I bought with a
paper clip, in about 30 seconds without any damage to the pistol or
the lock. If I did not care about the lock, it would have been more
like 5 seconds. using one of any number of common tools.
I really prefer locking up the whole gun, preferably in a safe that is
hard to find. Again, I think a big safe sitting in plain view is just
a target. These days, safe cracking tools are at the Home Depot. A
metal blade in a cutoff saw or even a grinder will make short work of
most safes (typically 16ga steel). If it is a "better" safe, go with a
diamond blade.
One of my safes is in plain view but bolted to the floor. It's also not
a Bass Pro special. It's very well made and would take a long time to
breach.
Have you ever seen what a diamond wheel on a 14" cutoff saw will do?
It may be a little noisy and pretty messy but it is not slow.
Usually a real thief will go after the sides or the back. They might
cut the top off.
They usually know where the weak spot is.

First they would have to try to defeat my security system. The phone
line is in plain view on the side of the house but I have cellular
backup. I also have WiFi cameras that don't rely on outside power on
both DSL and cable and video is stored in two places in my house as well
as in the cloud. The modems and WiFi routers are also on large battery
backups. The safes I have are not junk. A gas saw with a diamond blade
is great for cutting concrete but would have a hell of a time on these
safes with the stainless option:

http://www.ftknox.com/vaults/the-titan-vault/

I also live in a quiet neighborhood with good neighbors and nearly zero
crime. It would take some real pros a lot of time to break into the
safes and if they can pull that off, they can have it all.

If I was you Ditzy, I'd stop boasting about all my guns. The simple way might be where people would just take you or your wife hostage and force you to open the safe.